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  1. Bass6

    Bass6 New Member

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    Hello, first post here.
    Just started smoking again after many years. Definitely looking to vape instead. I've been looking at reviews and such on portables and there seems to be a big emphasis on getting a big hit. I don't really care about a big hit. I have a low tolerance (even back when I was a heavy smoker) and these days I'm usually more interested in a mild buzz after work than getting totally zooted. I haven't found many reviews that speak to being able to get nice, controlled, incremental dosage. Can anyone recommend something that will work nicely for this? I'm interested in all of the other usual stuff as well --- reliable, portable, discreet, efficient, definitely not too fiddly to use, and not too harsh to hit (water option would be nice but perhaps not critical).

    Any suggestions?
     
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  2. Caligula

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    With the possible exception of stealth, the Arizer Solo fits the bill.

    As for hit size I think you need to look at a few other aspects. I suggest researching effect by temp. Different active compounds volatilize at different temps. For example you can get wildly different effects from the same herb by vaping at low temps versus higher temps.

    There is a handy chart which lists effect by temp in the vaporpedia wiki here on FC.

    It is because of this having a vape with heat adjustability is a critical component if one is interested in exploring this aspect of vaping MJ (imo).

    BTW the Solo has said adjustability.

    On a side note, on average, lower temps result in better flavor, lighter hits, and causes less irritation.

    Plus you can pair it with almost any water tool with a simple glass on glass adapter... but thats info for another post all together.
     
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  3. sundaddy

    sundaddy Well-Known Member

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    I'd say you're in the market for a Launch Box by Magic Flight. You can put a small sprinkle in there, like so small it wouldn't even register on a scale.
     
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  4. Caligula

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    IDK if id consider a full on conduction vape "controlled" delivery. Then again I've only used a MFLB and never owned one. Regardless I dont think bowl size is really a major consideration here? Maybe the OP can elaborate more on his criteria.
     
  5. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I second this.

    The topic is just asking for an MFLB suggestion, and I agree that it sounds like you want an MFLB.
    I do feel the MFLB is very controlled, and its rather easy to get small hits all day. I want to say look no further but there many vapes.

    Would you be using this vape with others?
    Would you like the option to finish the bowl quicker or extract at a quicker rate?
     
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  6. Caligula

    Caligula Maximus

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    IMO the OP is looking to control the type of high he gets as well as his overall level of inebriation. While its true vapes like the MFLB will allow him to take small hits, he will be missing the ability to target specific temperatures which (again IMO) is even more critical to his criteria than simple "cloud size" (or bowl size).

    Basically being able to choose the strain of your meds as well as what temp to vape it at is much more important than taking big or small rips. At least in this case.

    ...not that you cant control hit size in vapes with selectable heat levels.
     
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  7. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    Not to sound like to much of a butthead but there is no need to take a giant hit off of any vaporizer, I can sit back and sip on any vape I own.

    Find a vaporizer you like, Inhale less vapor if you like small hits it's all that simple really.:hmm: Ain't it????
     
  8. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I suppose we will have to wait for him to respond, but the MFLB gives a great deal of control, temperature control would be on the PA, but even without you control the temp anyway. I prefer this control over a machines, primarily because I can instantly change the temp feel where its at while I draw and control how I am vaping with the MFLB.
     
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  9. Caligula

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    Yes but some vapes dobt really take well to starting then stopping like that (sort of like when I piss). Take the TET LL products for example. Its my understanding that once you have a load going, you're kind of locked into finishing it otherwise you waste a lot of product.
     
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  10. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    The OP said nothing about stopping and starting that I read, only that they wanted small hits.

    But I do know what your saying.
     
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  11. Caligula

    Caligula Maximus

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    You're right, he did not, which is why I asked for clarification on his criteria earlier. That being said, I think my assumption is safe based on inference of this passage:

    Id assume a full load out of most vapes (be it sipped or chugged) would put someone with a "low tolerance" past the "mild buzz" point. Then again that's all subjective now isn't it?
     
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  12. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    Casting my vote for the Palm 2. Small loads, stealth....
     
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  13. Mrmrmrmr

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    Second the notion for the solo. If being stealthy isn't a huge concern i would go for it. Like Caligula said you have a range of temps to control what kind of high your getting. You mentioned water usage and the solo stem fits any 14mm so you are already to go in that aspect.
     
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  14. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    I think you are in for a firewood , recently tried one.. and i think it is what you are looking.. Hits like the mflb with a better taste.. ! I've seen some users.. make both mflb and firewood producing monster hits... so the size of the hit is more down to technique.. than the model of the vape.. although .. i would seek something with a small bowl if i were you :) !
     
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  15. Bass6

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    Hey, thanks so much for all the input. You guys help me figure out where to start figuring stuff out. When I quit years ago nobody used vapes. I didn't really know about the temp thing. I would say that I am really interested in the higher temp effects. I will check out all of the suggested contraptions. As for the question about whether I am interested in starting and stopping or just small hits. I guess the best way to answer that is to compare to my combustion pattern now. Usually I take one rather moderate toke off a bowl and I'm good. It is less often that I'd want more capacity than that but every now and then it might be used at a get together. I suppose it would be nice to have a vape that I could load up and leave loaded and hit once a day or whatever until it was gone -- i.e. stop and start with very long stops. Having one where you only put it what you were going to use right then would be alright too. I think I'd just end up putting very small amounts in there.

    I watched a video on using the MFLB and it looked like there was a lot of fussing about with getting the pack turned well in between hits. Would a convection type avoid this need to mix it up every time? Not saying I'm ruling the MFLB out. It does look like it has a lot going for it -- there has got to be a reason why so many folks recommend it.
     
  16. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Sounds like you should look up the Lotus or Hammer, both have little maintenance and fuss. Convection CAN prevent the need for mixing, but the shaking isn't as bad as the video may imply, especially if you're just taking a quick hit and putting it in a position where you'll need to reset the bowl again anyway. For me it's tap the bottom, tap the sides a couple of times, good to go. It takes less than 3 seconds.

    I personally vote for the Hammer, but the Lotus may be more suited for you, it has very little parts and nothing on it would break down. But I do feel as if my Hammer is very reliable and sturdy, and isn't going to be breaking down anytime soon. Both work well with small loads and allow for a lot of control via the user and torch dial. I believe the Hammer to be more versatile and discreet but this could be subjective. I don't think you'll notice a huge difference between these two butane vapes besides design but in my opinion you couldn't go wrong with either.

    The Firewood also would be a great choice for the electric route, and bowls can really last a long time while not putting in a lot of herb. I do think it can be a bit "fiddly" in comparison to the other vapes excluding the MFLB. Tastewise I would rank my Hammer above the FW and FW2.0, MFLB taste is great in the beginning but when you have yours for three years and have let others try it, it may taste "seasoned".
     
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  17. Caligula

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    I never stir the herb in my Solo stem. No need.
     
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  18. Bass6

    Bass6 New Member

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    Starting to lean towards the Solo.
     
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  19. clouded vision

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    The cera is my go to for one hit vaping, you definitely aren't locked into a bowl. In fact I would say the solo is a vape that you are really locked in. Iknow you can pull the stem but 2 minute warm up abd having to worry about spilling the bowl are a PITA to take one hhit at a time.
    To the OP, you really are going to want a heat on demand device which is going to be a MFLB, flashvape or any thermovape ll product. Also the Lotus is getting more popular and does small loads well. Alternatively, you could also go with a device that handles very small loads and you can leave on 24/7 like a log. You can just pack a one hit bowl anytime you want and you're ready to go.
     
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  20. Bass6

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    And a Solo is on its way to me. Thanks for the push y'all.
     
  21. Bass6

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    And I'll probably pick up something else too, along the lines of these suggestions. Gotta start somewhere and the solo seems like a pretty fair reference point.
     
  22. clouded vision

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    It really is a great vape, also it is greatfor beginners because there is no learning curve. I definitely wasn't trying to put down the solo just giving my opinion based on what you were looking for. I'm sure you will be happy with the solo.
     
  23. vorrange

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    For portables, i would get a Lotus. It is my favorite unit. Main issue: there is no set temperature so, although it is a relatively easy vape to manage, you won't have the control of an electronic unit with adjustable or preset temps.

    The Solo would be a good option for you as well but it kind of forces you to go through the bowl from start to finish otherwise you will waste precious cannabinoids while the stem is inside the bowl, or precious battery while you leave it on without hitting it.

    The Hammer has a similar process to the Lotus in many ways but it has a different design that you might or might not like and the flavour is not as pure as the Lotus unless you make a slight mod (nothing fancy though).

    The MFLB has a longer learning curve but it is a nice little vape. Main issue: it uses AA batteries which are kind of annoying after a while and also don't have preset temps. PLus it is a conduction vaporizer so you need a very fine grind and the flavour goes out fast.

    As for desktop units, i would stick to a log. Small bowls and great taste and thick clouds. Either a Nano, or an UD. The HI has a long wait list so it is not a good option for something you want soon.

    The Vapolution is another great option for desktops with amazing flavour (all glass air and vapour path) and very efficient.
     
  24. Bass6

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    Knowing me I will try several options over time. I appreciate all the advice. I am thinking I can just put small amounts in the solo. I am not afraid to mod stuff either. I am a tweaker. Back in the day I was the guy who was always making a new device. I've already started again -- a little simple woodworking.
     
  25. vorrange

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    The Solo does pretty small amounts. No problem there. It's more a matter of the session as a whole and how that translates in its intrinsic efficiency or inefficiency.

    I'm sure you'll like the Solo. ;)
     
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