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Discussion in 'Glass' started by Frederick McGuire, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. placetime

    placetime Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the input! Is there some downside to using that grease on the dry connection, or do you not use it there just because it's superfluous?

    So, are you saying that it's some function of the connection getting wet that causes sticking?

    Sorry for all the noobish questions. :)

    Does the "recycler" thingie do much beyond looking uber-cool and adding a minor amount of additional hydration? Don't get me wrong--they're incredible works of art. But I'm curious if they provide any functional benefit. :science:
     
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  2. Havelock Vetenari

    Havelock Vetenari Patrician

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    Actually i'm not sure if it's the moisture or the fact you put weight on it(it's a vertical connection)/work it or a combination of both factors,but that connection is indeed much more prone to sticking than the other inhale tube(+ that's angled upwards).
    Evert only recommends it for that :
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    So on the other it indeed seems superflous and has the added slight downside of attracting dirt etc.,necessitating more frequent cleaning.
    I've had my inhaletube stuck sometimes,but only after this got a accidental push/jolt and it got 'pushed in' harder than usual.
     
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  3. Bouldorado

    Bouldorado Well-Known Member

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    The recycler part may add some diffusion, but it's minimal. I've hit a few different recyclers and they're not noticeably smoother than a piece of similar size. I think the main advantages are no splashback, and maybe fresher tasting water if you don't change it often.
     
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  4. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Here's some of the Recycler videos, I've always thought illustrate the action well. But, yeah... I wouldn't say they add a lot to diffusion, but I would think the action keeps the hits tasting a bit fresher.





    And the BEAST!

     
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  5. upintheclouds

    upintheclouds Member

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    Quite an amazing thread, and here I thought I knew my stuff about glassware - very informative thanks guys
     
  6. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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  7. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    i just found saw this video of the jm flow sprinkler perc inline
     
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  8. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    [​IMG][​IMG]I am very impress by the flux perc by illusion glass it stacks amazing... May be one the most insane i've ever seen.. i think..
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    I've seen better videos on fb.. this guy needs to ajust water level:)
     
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  9. ilovebOObs

    ilovebOObs can i stick my male joint in there?

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    i've been thinking about a similar perc like this forever. but my version would of been named the nipple perc :lol:
     
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  10. UpUpandAway

    UpUpandAway YWF

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    I see people mention "bubble stacking" and I can appreciate what it is visually, but functionally how does it affect the vapor/smoke? Does massive stacking equal max diffusion?
     
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  11. Frederick McGuire

    Frederick McGuire Aggressively Loungey

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    A bit late, but here's my :2c: on that:

    IMO, stacking =/= diffusion, but its a very good indicator.
    Stacking can be affected by things like the size of the can, how fresh the water is, how much water is in the piece, what sort of drag your vape is introducing etc.

    Staler water tends to stack more.
    Even a moderately diffused piece with heaps of water will stack high
    Its generally easier to stack up a smaller can.

    The look of the bubbles themselves is another good indicator, small is good, but consistency is better.
    Some tiny bubbles can foam up between some big bubbles I've noticed with a few of my non-gridded showerheads, but with a piece like a matrix or fritter perc, you can get a full can of evenly sized small bubbles.

    Another factor I've noticed is the top of the "stacking waterline"
    For a more diffused piece, I've noticed that the top is almost a flat line of bubbles, but with a less diffused piece, its more wavy and splashing around.


    So
    Short answer: sure
    Long answer: in and of itself, no, but its a good yard stick.
     
  12. Meghan

    Meghan Well-Known Member

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    I wanted to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I wish I'd seen this last week! I've been trying to learn more about glass and the terminology has been making my head spin. This was perfect.
     
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  13. lreindl

    lreindl Pacific NW

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    OK - here's a question! Is there a difference between female and "direct inject" pieces?
     
  14. Frederick McGuire

    Frederick McGuire Aggressively Loungey

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    Yes.

    A female piece has a female GG joint at its inlet,
    A direct inject piece has a male GG joint at its inlet.

    That fritter in your avatar pic is a direct inject piece.

    If your asking if there's a functional difference, no, you can slap on an adapter, and have either type of piece function like the other one, without affecting the performance of the piece.

    The main point of DI pieces, is so that you can use it with a dome and nail for dabs without needing an adapter.
     
  15. VaphingApe415

    VaphingApe415 Well-Known Member

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    Thank y'all for the input. Much appreciated
     
  16. bryan slate

    bryan slate New Member

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    Great thread! I use Olive Oil on my Arizer unit and it seems to work.
     
  17. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    i noticed there wasn't a clearer description of the function of recyclers so i thought i'd add it here.
    imo, the function of a recycler is to do 2 different things.
    1. to have longer contact time with the water for cooling without diffusion. i refer to it as carrying cooling rather than diffusion cooling.
    2. also it allows for the bubbles to go farther, get closer to the mouthpiece, before popping, therefore granting better flavor.

    also noticed that there wasn't a description of turbince percs



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    a turbine perc's functions allow it to accomplish two goals as well
    1. to spin the water and bubbles that are racing up the tube out towards the edges w/ centrifugal force so that it acts as a splash-guard.
    2. it also does some "carrying" cooling as well by allowing a more intense water contact while spinning thru it.

    anyway. hope that helps add to the glossary. feel free to dispute
     
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  18. Tamataz

    Tamataz Icelander

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    Ahh, so thats the proper name for that. And i guess its just as much of a perc as it is a spashguard.
     
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  19. Outlaw Farmer

    Outlaw Farmer Stealth Mode Engaged

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    Thread age is irrelevant to me. Some info is ageless.

    Good sticky, I learned 2things. Thanx for the effort.
     
  20. llama1892

    llama1892 Aaron Rodgers Afficianado

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    Can anyone help me? I am a glass noob and getting a new bong. it has a 18.8mm > 14.5 mm gg joint. If im getting a carbon filter for that does that mean i need a 14.5 mm carbon filter or 18.8? Thanks in advance :)
     
  21. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    If I understand correctly, it sounds like you will be getting a removable downstem that reduces the 18.8mm joint down to 14.4mm for the slide/adapter. In this case if you want to add a carbon filter, it should be 14.4.

    :peace:
     
  22. mvapes

    mvapes Surrounded by the healthy!

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    Or an 18 would work as well if he leaves the adapter in.
     
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  23. Frederick McGuire

    Frederick McGuire Aggressively Loungey

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    ? Not entirely sure what adapter you're referring to...

    If the downstem is a reducing downstem, it'll have an 18mm male joint, and a 14mm female inlet joint.
    In that case, the carbon filter must have a 14mm male outlet.
    Since carbon filters and the like tend to use the same joint size for both the inlet and outlet, then a 14mm carbon filter is what woul be required.
     
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  24. mvapes

    mvapes Surrounded by the healthy!

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    I may have misread, I thought I sounded like it had an adapter.
     
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  25. llama1892

    llama1892 Aaron Rodgers Afficianado

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    Yep, you were right. Thank you for the help :)
     
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