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Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by lwien, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else get calls from random numbers several times a day? Fuck all of these assholes. They never leave VM's, its some kind of robo spam ring and youre not supposed to answer or call these numbers back because that tells the system that youre real which subjects you to more calls. But the other day I got so pissed that I answered and said "FUCK YOU!" and hung up. Serves that robocaller right, lol.

    And fuck them for having the worlds most unreliable wifi connection.
     
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  2. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    It's that time of the year.....ACA Healthcare re-up, mid-terms, holidays.....it's a perfect storm of telemarketing terror. I put my cell phone on "do not disturb" with the option to only make noise when the caller is on my contacts list. Maybe this will make you smile:
    Meet the robocall avenger: Andrew Perrong, 21, sues those pesky callers for cash [The Philadelphia Inquirer]
    BY Knight Ridder/Tribune
    — 9:05 AM ET 11/02/2018

    Nov. 02--Americans are losing the war on robocalls, with 4.4 billion of them buzzing phones in September alone, nearly double the number from a year ago.

    One man is fighting back, or at least turning the pesky calls into cash. Meet Andrew Perrong, a college student who regularly sues and scores settlements against companies he claims illegally call him.

    Related stories

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    * States try to quash robocalls, but they're worse than ever

    Perrong, from Huntingdon Valley, is ridiculed by opposing lawyers as a "professional plaintiff," and they accuse him of "running a business" through his robocall lawsuits. They claim he sets traps for unsuspecting telemarketers and debt collectors.

    But those arguments have proven to be of little consequence. Perrong has filed dozens of lawsuits -- at least 45 by one opponent's count -- and squeezed settlements from a wide variety of businesses, ranging from chimney sweeps and collection agencies to giants Verizon and Citibank.

    Perrong notched his first settlement in 2015 while a senior at La Salle College High School in Springfield Township. Now age 21, the robocall warrior attends Catholic University of America in Washington and continues to fire off lawsuits, usually representing himself without a lawyer.

    "His litigation history makes plain that he seeks [calls] out and gladly receives them" for his next lawsuit, Ballard Spahr's Daniel JT McKenna, who represents a Texas utility that Perrong recently sued, argued in October. "The purpose of such conduct is to make Perrong money."

    Perrong utilizes the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), which outlaws calls coming from autodialers or those with artificial or prerecorded voices unless consumers give prior consent. It also requires businesses to honor "do not call" lists, among other provisions. Consumers can sue for up to $500 per violation and courts can award triple damages for willful conduct.

    How much money Perrong has made from his settlements is a mystery. He has demanded tens of thousands of dollars in some cases, and most of his suits settled quickly, Ballard Spahr's McKenna noted in court filings.

    While sometimes searing in court papers, Perrong declined requests for interviews, citing pending litigation and confidentiality agreements. So it's unclear whether his suits are an altruistic effort to combat the rapid rise of robocalls, or if he's simply making money off the companies that call him.

    Robocalls have become an epidemic. There were 33 billion of them nationwide this year through September, according to YouMail, a robocall-blocking application. That's 101 calls per person. The Federal Trade Commission received on average more than 375,000 robocall complaints per month in fiscal 2017, up from 63,000 per month in 2009.

    Technology has made it cheaper and easier to send robocalls. Perhaps the most problematic development has been caller ID "spoofing," which not only disguises a caller's identity, but can make it look as if the call is from a local number.

    Along with the surge of robocalls has come a sharp increase in the number of lawsuits filed by consumers. In 2017, there were 4,392 federal cases filed under the TCPA, compared with 14 in 2007, according to Michigan-based WebRecon, which tracks consumer litigation filings.

    Companies and consumer advocates have clashed over the robocall law. Some, including Federal Communications Commissioner Ajit Pai, now chairman, have called the TCPA "the poster child for lawsuit abuse."

    Others, such as the National Consumer Law Center's Margot Saunders, credit the law for providing legal recourse for real victims who've been harassed by robocalls, and say it shouldn't be scrapped just because some consumers abuse it.

    Amid this debate, Perrong stands out for the frequency of his lawsuits and the great lengths he goes to catch the companies that call him. He has claimed to own eight phone numbers over the years, his opponents note in court filings, and has cajoled callers hiding behind fake numbers to reveal their true identities.

    In one case, he scheduled an appointment through a telemarketer, ostensibly to get a home-repair estimate. When a repairman arrived, Perrong took his business card, sent him home, and then sued his company the next day in May, according to his complaint. In another case, he placed an order, froze the credit-card payment so the company would call back, and sued the same day.

    Serial litigants such as Perrong are like land mines for companies, said Jack Gordon, CEO of WebRecon, the consumer lawsuit tracker. WebRecon offers a "Litigant Alert" service that help companies identify consumers with a history of litigation -- a super-serious "do not call" list. The search engine found 23 federal lawsuits for Perrong, Gordon said.

    "It is neither true nor plausible that he even has the time to be a 'professional plaintiff,' " wrote Jon B. Fougner, Perrong's California-based lawyer in the recently settled Macy's case.

    Still, Perrong has found time to help out another regular robocall litigant. He has served defendants court summonses and complaints for James Everett Shelton, a King of Prussiaman who has filed at least 30 TCPA lawsuits as of September, court records show. Shelton declined comment.

    Christine Reilly, a TCPA defense lawyer, said abusers of the robocall law will manufacture lawsuits by providing their phone numbers on online lead forms, then deny they consented to the calls. But she said many companies choose to settle these cases instead of dealing with the time and expense of obtaining evidence, going through discovery, or especially taking it to trial.

    "These plaintiffs are looking for fairly nominal amounts," said Reilly, of the Manatt, Phelps & Phillips law firm in Los Angeles. "A number that's attractive enough to get the company incentivized to pay the demand so they don't have to pay the lawyer fees."

    Saunders, the National Consumer Law Center lawyer, acknowledged some plaintiffs abuse the law but emphasized that the TCPA protects consumers who have been harmed by unrelenting robocalls, such as a Florida woman who received 1,845 calls from an appliance company in 14 months.

    "I'm not working to preserve the TCPA for someone who solicits robocalls and then sues on them," Saunders said. "I'm working to preserve it for people who are abused by robocalls so that we have a private remedy to try to help stop them."

    Perrong, barely old enough to drink, is already well-known among robocall defense lawyers. Perhaps even feared.

    "If you have been practicing [TCPA] law on the defense side, and you've been doing this for a good amount of time, you will know Andrew Perrong's name," Reilly said.
     
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  3. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    I like a nice handwritten note on nice stationary. With a stamp. If I don't get that, well, I can make up my own mind without the propaganda. Shame about Kanye, though.
     
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  4. Shrike

    Shrike Flower Potted & Squared

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    Whether you tolerate Trump, loath him or downright hate his guts...at least he finally got rid of that Demented Cracker Gnome (Sessions), who had an eternal hard-on for the destruction of all things Cannabis.

    Fuck Sessions...now he can get back to slurping his mint juleps way down South...:wave::mental::rip:
     
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  5. Mr. Gweilo 420

    Mr. Gweilo 420 Dude

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    Fuck Kanye. That dude is dumb as fuck.
     
  6. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    That's what I mean. You don't want someone like that off the rails.
     
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  7. Exsmoker

    Exsmoker Member

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    First, I’ve only been vaping exclusively for about six weeks. But today I made a HUGE mistake. While doing repairs on my vape (I only have one at the moment), I combusted two tiny hits from the bubbler. OMG! This was the most nasty, foul-tasting shit that I’ve ever experienced - the taste of old, very old, gym socks comes to mind. And I was a long-time combustor. It won’t happen again!

    Fuck Combustion!

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Helios

    Helios Well-Known Member

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  9. VapeReady

    VapeReady Member

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  10. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    So I'm in California, and it's burning. Again. My home county and town burned last year. The sky is dark from smoke from huge fires 150 miles away. Northern California is on fire. Southern California is on fire.
    FUCK COMBUSTION!!!!
     
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  11. Skunkport

    Skunkport Well-Known Member

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    All the health obsession in California but the place still won't quit smoking.
     
  12. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    You think we'd know the dangers of passive smoking by now...

    Edit: I am going to add this here. We just had an earthquake. You could feel the ground shifting and feel the rumbling, then BOOM! Turn off the vape, get out the house (I can see the usefulness of a portable right about now).
    We were hit pretty bad a few years ago, so everyone is jumpy. It was only 3.7, but we were only a few miles from epicenter, so it seemed big. Now waiting to see if there is more to come.

    Can I just add, FUCK EARTHQUAKES!!!
     
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  13. cybrguy

    cybrguy I mean really, WTF

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    Fuck Fire and Earthquakes. So much for Paradise... :bang::shit::rip:
     
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  14. Shrike

    Shrike Flower Potted & Squared

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    ^^^John Milton was fucking prescient...:cool:

    It was a beautiful little town...I remember driving through it some years ago...:(:rip:

    Won't take years to rebuild, but it will take a lot of years for all the trees and vegetation to return...
     
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  15. Whisper

    Whisper Well-Known Member

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    Need to add - fuck hurricanes. We are still living in a travel trailer, working on our house which was damaged from Irma. I feel horrible for victims of disasters. Fuck!
     
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  16. BornAgainSteama

    BornAgainSteama I'm proud to be a stoner, yes I am.

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    in a few short years much more low coastal land will be uninhabitable swallowed by the sea. Eventually Florida will be half the size it was. FUCK!
     
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  17. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    I hope you are safe in your own home again, soon. There have been so many victims of disaster lately, I cry to think about it. Be well.
     
  18. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v4.0a (unstable) Staff Member

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    Fuck off-topic discussions. Please go to (or start) a thread about the fires if you want to continue.
     
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  19. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    Just to be clear....these are just my fuck you's and I am not speaking for all veterans......

    If you TRULY valued the veterans, the sacrifice they AND their families have made..... the last thing you'd do is make disgusting, disrespecting remarks about John McCain. Let alone about being a POW. Let alone about gold star families.......

    As a veteran myself I'd have preferred that you didn't make it worse by making that hypocritical speech to feign respect like that simply for political reasons. If you had started that speech with an apology to McCain, his family and the gold star families you disparaged I wouldn't feel the need to say FUCK YOU AND DO ME A FAVOR AND SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT VETERANS.
     
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  20. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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  21. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    Fuck PG&E.
    Gouging our rates just so they can spark massive deadly wildfires that wipe out entire towns? Really? I hope they go bankrupt and their CEO gets buttraped in prison.
     
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  22. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    What's PG&E?
     
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  23. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    Agreed. FUCK PG&E.
    @Hogni , Pacific Gas & Electric, a utility company. In 2017, PG&E powerlines and equipment caused fires that killed at least 44 people, burned 245,000 acres in Mendocino, Humboldt, Butte, Lake, Napa and Sonoma Counties. In 2015, PG&E was at fault for a fire in Butte County the destroyed almost 1,000 structures and killed 2 people. There is indication that the 2018 Camp Fire currently burning, was started under PG&E powerlines, so far 48 are dead, over 200 missing . The fires still burn.

    FUCK PG&E!!!!!
     
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  24. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    Greedy irresponsible assholes who dont give a shit about rural areas and commit accidental homicide
     
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  25. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Thanks for explanation!
    Unbelievable that the weak powerlines didn't have immediately to be exchanged after these accidents!?
     
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