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Friends that hate vapes / Vapor?

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by VapeNStone, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. VapeNStone

    VapeNStone Mark

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    Hey everyone just had a quick question. Do any of you have friends that absolutely hate vaporizers? Or the art of vaporizing? I have buddies of mine that just don't get it nor do they want to get it. They say they don't get high and they can't get hits from it. Whether it be the MFLB, vaporgenie or even my home vape DBV(which they can at least hit right). They say they get higher off of smoking and they don't like how long it takes to actually get high when trying to vaporize(because it does take just a tad bit more time to get great flavor and hits that are better for you). But I just wanted to see if anyone else that vaporizes that has friends like this. Most of the time I hear "well I just want to smoke and get high, I don't want to do all this work". Is it just me?
     
  2. Lo

    Lo Combustion free since '09

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    Meh! Some folks are just stubborn. I was against vapor after a bad experience with a Vapir years ago. I think most would grow to appreciate it if they gave it a chance but many folks, sadly just won't take the time to learn. Whenever I can I try to turn people onto vapor. I wish someone had enlightened me decades ago :D
     
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  3. eddyfrancis

    eddyfrancis Well-Known Member

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    I think the high from vaporizing can be acquired over time. When I first started vaporizing (with a Volcano) I didn't seem to get very high, but I think as I continued using the Volcano my lungs became more used to absorbing the vapor instead of smoke. Then I started to notice vaporizing actually got me way higher than smoking.
     
  4. jackmormon

    jackmormon Well-Known Member

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    My good friend has always disliked vapor even though I semi-forced him to try several of my vapes. Friday he came by and I had him try my Lotus. His biggest complaint was "all herb tastes the same" with vapes. Needless to say, two bowls in the Lotus and he was floored. He ended up borrowing it and it better get back here soon! (The Lotus is very strong in the flavor and effect departments.)
     
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  5. nr-cole

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    I've met lots of people who have problems with vaporizing. They range from logical reasons like the different high and enjoying the experience of lighting a bong or rolling a joint, to illogical reasons. One of the best I've heard was that "vaporizing only gets THC out so you are wasting your bud." The guy telling me this claimed he'd owned eight vaporizers, but if he'd been that experienced with vapor you'd think he'd know how much more efficient it is and that you can actually cash almost all the actives by varying temperature, as well as make edibles.

    There's a lot of misinformation out there about vaporizing and weed in general, and I think a lot of people who try it only a couple times get frustrated by the learning curve and resort to some of the typical "excuses" out there for not liking vapor.

    Personally I still combust a few times a month for various reasons, usually because a joint is being passed around. If a bong is getting passed around I'll hit it but my days of having my own pipes and smoking out of my own bongs are long over.
     
  6. max

    max Bingo Coordinator Staff Member

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    Nope. We've heard it over and over. And I think for some it's resulted in a change of who they hang out with, if getting high together is enough of a social activity.

    With some, like Lo and her Vapir, it takes a decent vape to appreciate vapor. If I hadn't 'had it' with smoke, back when I tried my first vape (the crappy BC Vaporizer), I might never have bought vape #2. With others, it may require not only using a good vape, but using it for a while with no smoking. Going back and forth between vaping and smoking can make it hard to fully appreciate vapor.

    Others just won't take to vapor because none of the pluses are attractive enough to overcome the extra effort and expense that vaping requires. And if you don't think you're high (or enjoy it) unless you're totally wasted with the couchlocked smoker's high, it's gonna be difficult to appreciate vapor.

    Some people just aren't going to take to vapor, no matter what. Some of them may change their minds if too many years of inhaling smoke finally gets to them. Others will be like those who like to chug beers, and will never enjoy sipping a tasty wine. People are just different.

    Who's going to buy 8 vapes and not be hooked on vapor? Only someone with more money than brains, who thinks if he keeps buying, he'll finally find one that works.
     
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  7. Sour Deez

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    I was the same way, stashed my SSV for a few months. But now vaping gets me stoopid whereas when i smoke now with buddies, i hardly get high, i get a buzz but thats it. Then ill go home and vape, and gets nice and high.

    Anyways, the point im trying to make is, does anyone who still combusts on occasion feel like their tolerence has went up since they started vaping? My usage has been cut in half from when i smoked, but i feel my tolerance has increased. The reason I say this is cause ill smoke with my buddys and they are to high to smoke another bong pack and im over there itching waiting to finally get high lol.

    It makes sense since when you vape your getting alot more of the actives instead of buring them away.
     
  8. AGBeer

    AGBeer Lost in Thought

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    Smoking is easy. Its mindless, you can do it in your sleep and its convenient.

    Vaping is something you have to WANT to do and take the time to learn and learn about.

    And most of my friends who like to smoke, smoke tobacco as well. Taste is nothing to them because they cant taste for shit anyway.
    :2c:
     
  9. jeffp

    jeffp psychonaut

    It takes a little longer to feel the effects with vaping so perhaps that's the misguided perception of friends who believe that smoking gets them higher. Also factor in the noxious chemicals that are inhaled in smoke that could make a person dizzy.
     
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  10. djonkoman

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    all my friends combust, most of them only smoke joints with tobacco
    some like vaping, some a lot(one friend for example really liked the taste from my vg and ho quick he got high even tough he didn't get visible vaprhits yet), but oftn the price-aspect is their biggest concern I think, or they are just too lazy to get one themselves
    but esoecialy one friend says he doesn't like vapingm he only tried it once or so tough, he also doesn't really like edibles because he really likes the process of rolling joints the feel of smoking joints and he likes the tobacco with it(he also smokes a lot of tobacco)
    but I don't think any of the rally hates it, more that they're indifferent and prefer other methods

    so far it seems that it's more common for non-tobaccosmokers to like vaping, and the heavier tobaccosmokers are more prone to preferring joints woth tobacco, but that's far from a set rule, more a generalisation with exceptions

    apparently none likes it enough to get one themselves
     
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  11. aesthyrian

    aesthyrian Blaaaaah

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    I feel very lucky reading this thread, since all of my close stoner friends do not smoke a damn thing. Neither do I, we all love to vape and cringe at the thought of smoking. Maybe we like the fact that we can all taste the weed with one bowl pack, or maybe that we can pack one bowl and be good with a circle of 5 people. It's so much easier packing one nice fat vape bowl that will last for several hits each person rather than packing 5 bowls that everyone gets one or two hits from.

    So in my circle of friends your pals would feel pretty stupid for hating on vapor.
     
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  12. underdog

    underdog shade-tree vapor engineer Manufacturer

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    Friends don't let friends hate vapor. :brow:

    Seriously though I do have a few friends who refuse to vape for various reasons and I've been unable to convert them. Most come right over to the light and vapory side but there's always those few smokey stragglers.. my dad's one of those and it drives me nuts haha.
     
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  13. weedemon

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    I bought a BC vape a long time ago and it make me think vaporization was a bunch of BS. it wasn't until many years later i discovered the true power of vaporization!
     
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  14. VapeNStone

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    good comments keep them coming. One more thing to point out. Do all of you just absolutely hate trying to explain a vape to someone that just doesn't want to get it? Like everytime I let someone use my VG or something they are pulling out their lighter when I just handed them an electric one. Or they suck to hard(or with the DBV not hard enough lol) and burn the hell out of the bowl and say "oh shit now I got a hit" yea but you wasted the whole fucking bowl in one hit. I can really tell the connoisseur's amongst smokers because they seem to be the only ones that get what I'm telling them and then can actually hit it right. Everyone else just hears me talk and doesn't listen. The ONLY time I have ever combusted anything on accident in any of my pieces is because of friends.
     
  15. CombustionJunction

    CombustionJunction What's Your Function?

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    QFT!

    Those who just want to smoke and get high just don't respect the herb. To me, smoking/vaping is a lot more than getting high. Those who don't get it, never will. To each his own.
     
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  16. VapeNStone

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    And right there I can tell you are a connoisseur of bud. This is exactly what I say and most of them say "well can't we just get fucking high already?"
     
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  17. nr-cole

    nr-cole Well-Known Member

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    ^ Heh, going back to Mr. 8 Vapes, he definitely thought he was some kind of connoisseur and that people who vape were some kind of suckers that don't get to fully appreciate their herbs. Such a load of crap haha.

    While I definitely recognize and occasionally enjoy the appeal of smoking, combustion as a whole is such a homogenous experience. You don't appreciate the distinct effects of different strains to the same degree. You blow half the actives into the air and demolish your lungs with it, and while some of the flavour survives the flames, vapor is legitimately DELICIOUS when you have quality bud. Add the efficiency factor to that, and all the holdouts look kind of silly.
     
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  18. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    I had very few friends who disliked vapor but my MW solved the problems.. Thats on of the best vapes to convert a classic Bongripper to vaping..
    Their reasons to like it.
    1: They wanna get all at once (twice) .
    2: They wanna be sure all is extracted and nothing is wasted..
    3: They want clouds and high kick intensity . They want the rush,the buzz the blackout :).
    4: It keeps our their favorite glass in better looking and when you out of stash you can always heat some of the condensed vapors on all bong parts.. (I was on trip and ended without material last two days..
    Me and my friends got really satisfied of the results and was smth like oil real rushy and energetic..
    The first days of no weed we got our satisfaction from the 3 part bowl+stem and the next days we got high off the main body .. and i am sure we could last another 2 days with this condensed vapor :D
    Their reasons not to like it.
    1:Need of extra :2c:
    2:Another technical hook up.
    3:Very few sold here and overpriced.. and mostly crap like noble vapors and other shady companies.
    4:They always expect something to go broken :)
     
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  19. crawdad

    crawdad floatin

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    sacred herb, treated as such...it's how i roll, uh..vape. :D :peace:
     
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  20. weedemon

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    Good post man! and i like your explanation. :)

    It's funny people don't wanna spend the money on a vape, but we will think nothing of buying a bong, or the next bag of herbs.

    funny creatures we are eh?
     
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  21. djonkoman

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    here in the netherlands we have a saying that probably aplies to a lot of combusters:
    wat de boer niet kent vreet 'ie niet (what the farmer doesn't know he doesn't eat)
     
  22. Nycdeisel

    Nycdeisel Well-Known Member

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    I agree, good post Abysmal!

    yup i see lots of people wanting to buy expensive glass pieces and then when they buy herb they seem to have a more wasteful mentality. but me, I like to buy glass to go under my vapes!! vapor bonging ;)

    I also see a lot of bong smokers who think that glass cant be used with vaporizers, that if one was to use a vaporizer, they would essentially be giving up their glass! that is so very false.

    As for myself, I havent met many people who hated(strong word) vapor or vaporizing, but I have encountered a few people who just didnt take to it because they couldnt take the time to listen to my instruction on how to use it. most others who have tried my vaporizers got a good kick out of using them and getting the hang of something new that also happened to have a lot of advantages(which I never forget to mention to people who were new to the concept) haha
     
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  23. Blood420

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    Most of my friends like vape, having used my volcano several times over the years. But the thing is, they will NEVER vape unless I'm there. I keep my volcano in their house, but they won't ever go out of their way to use it. They will hit it when I'm using it, and they will donate some of their herbs to use, but other than that they're more than happy to roll joints all the time.
     
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  24. biojuggernaut

    biojuggernaut Snob

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    straight up all my friends have tried all my vapes (everything from VHW to volcano bags) and they all say that smoking is better because it is more easy in a group setting, or that vapor doesn't get them high enough. Eh whatever :lol:
     
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  25. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Today a friend who is a hard ass smoker anti vapor guy somehow decided to try my metal vapo bowl ...
    He overcooked just a bit to dark brown without combustion .. i must say.. he got almost all on one drag... and he almost fainted... because of trying to swallow the vapor i guess.. After he came back he said :
    Man this one is the better than your electric mumbo jambo :) .. This one at least tastes right and kicks like a mule... LOL this guy is messed up...
     
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