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First QWISO runs ever - Open to criticism & commentary

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by oneinfinitecreator, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. StickyShisha

    StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    the problem i find with that style tube is emptying it.
    If the top opened, you could push it out.
  2. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Yeah, this wasn't really packed. I'm guessing its about 13 - 14 grams (since I picked out some cherry buds that were floating around. Everything else I ground up some more). It worked VERY well. I would like closer to an 8" tube, however.

    I thought the same, at first. Long bamboo skewer cleaned it right out. Stirred out the excess butane in the bud, got it under a fan now. Going to give it another grind and run it thru again, when I need to. Don't know what I've claimed so far. Its sitting in the water bath, covered with some cheesecloth. But, it looks like its more than double my last output. Its going to be close, if I increased the extraction with this tube... or... get better out of my downstem rig. Nice thing about this... is its the actual butane tip (no fitting) that seals on the glass. It slips in easy... but when you depress, the butane only comes out one place... the bottom. My downstem 3pc job, once it got freezing, it would start to blow butane out between the 18/14 and whip adapter.

    There's this guy to. Just started out in Oregon, huh? Hmm...

    7 - 13 gram tubes
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  3. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    How would Bacardi 151 work for making hash rather than tincture? Everclear isn't available anywhere around here.
  4. fake name

    fake name Well-Known Member

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    I'd advise against it, there is other stuff in there besides ethanol and water. There will be glycerin (used as an alcohol sugar) and whatever the rum has pulled from the cask it was aged in present. A quick wiki search also says some rums add caramel to the final mixture, but idk if that is true of 151.
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  5. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    What do you suggest if I wanted to use an alcohol made for human consumption rather than ISO? Keeping in mind that everclear is not possible for me to get here or anywhere close.
  6. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    OK! I'm not really sure what run this is. I'm confused. I'll try and spell it out.

    Its just over 6 grams of fresh stuff and about 6-7 of 2nd wash (which didn't really looked washed... from my n00b eyes and what I see from this last one).

    6 gram fresh FLOWER shake (I pulled all the good stuff out again. :cool:)
    6-7 grams barely washed stuff
    Total of 12 - 13 grams of FLOWER shake :p
    New 12" x 1 1/2" Schott Oil Dike tube
    Just over a can of butane

    My first run, garnered just over 1.2g. This one, gave up 1.8g, though with almost twice as much herb. I obviously attribute that, to the first wash on just over half of it.

    Here's what I got. This batch was MUCH thicker and got to the shatter stuff almost immediately after cooling down. I finally gave up and just finished with it in the bath. Then I had to get it all off the razor blade, before it shattered. Trying to get it off the blade, it would cool back down and almost lost a couple of nice dab size pieces. I did a couple of dabs (cause I don't care if I pass out in a couple)... but an hour later, I'm still going... pretty up high on this one. Though my Xanax was wearing off at the same time, to that's like a coffee buzz itself. Main point is... I'm medicated... really medicated.

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  7. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Well, update... this run is MUCH cleaner. However, I messed up scraping the very edges. I bought a new pan, that doesn't fit quite right in the crock pot and I knocked it off balance, splashing some water into the dish. I immediately poured it back out. As it was already purged... it just causes that last bit to sizzle on the nail. No biggie. Its not butane, different sound and I already looked it up. After sitting the better part of the day, open (though covered)... it was hardly noticeable on my last dab. And its only a 5 - 6 dabs. Thin line 1/8" on two blades, is all I got from that "contamination"

    This batch doesn't have the hard crash, after a couple dabs... the first run did. Got a LOT of stuff accomplished early, took a short nap and some sleep earlier. Probably take a short sleep after I get my daughter up for school. I've actually been trying to adjust my sleep schedule back to a more normal one (mine flips every 6 @#$%ing months) and this is actually helping me a bit. Its a much more uplifting feeling this go-around, much smoother on the hit to.

    The goods from a single dab are really amazing. OK, OK, OK... I understand. Its VERY tempting to have something that in a couple minutes you're medicated, good to go, and on your way. The bad part... that can be easy to abuse. Though, I actually medicated less yesterday, than I have in quite some time. Didn't need to, as the effects last a good while.

    If I can keep a good balance and it doesn't @#$% up my tolerance too much, as I enjoy vaping more than dabs... plus, being caught with the amount of herb I have, isn't even a slap on the wrist. Caught running butane, thru that herb... I'm screwed. Its worth making, IMO. Just buying $50 worth is going to give me a good bang for my buck, plus I get a potpourri of Top Shelf nugs mixed with it.
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  8. Edward Hyde

    Edward Hyde Well-Known Member

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    try packing your herbs really well in the tube...that will give u better results with your bho colour i think...
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  9. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    That would require a boatload more than I have. Those tubes, lightly packed, I believe are 18g - 20g and tightly packed at like 35g. Its ridiculous... at least for my situation. I'm more than happy with the results. Its been keeping my going, since I woke, got a LOT more @#$% actually done. Feel pretty decent, in a decent mood. I haven't ANY complaints.

    But, I do agree with you... I think I would get better results with more. I'm going to run this batch thru again. Already setup. Gave it another grind to open up all the freakin' little flowers I missed before... so I'm running it thru kief, close-to-kief almost throughout. I'll give this next run to my buddy. He said he'd hook me up, if I could make him some more of it... no problems giving him my runoff. The close to 2g I've got for myself now, the 1.2g I got before, whatever I get this run... plus the 2g of top shelf flowers I pulled out before any wash... I've more than got my money back (total $100 invested in herb, less than $10 in butane)

    Also, take into account... that's 2g clumped up. If you look at the edges, with the light running thru it, its a beautiful amber/green color. Now I have to just learn how to dig out a shatter piece w/o flinging it into the bathroom mirror (at least I catch it on the counter). Found a whole dab this morning, in the little flower/butterfly cup I put out for my wife, to put her bluetooth in when its charging. It had to have sat there all night, I'm surprised it didn't stick to her earpiece, which then would have stuck to her hair, which then would have put me DEEP in DOGGY HELL HOUSE.
  10. Edward Hyde

    Edward Hyde Well-Known Member

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    use any other tube...i've used pvc tubes and or coper tubes and they worked both well and from what i've found they are not a danger either.
  11. StickyShisha

    StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    i heat up the tip of my ti dabber and use it to cut away from the edge and slowly pull away a hit
  12. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Yeah, it makes me sad more than anything else. We could spend a good amount of time in jail for something that is a personal choice, medicine and better for you than alcohol, nicotine or Xanax, all of which are legal.

    I live in Florida, the second toughest MJ laws in the nation. :(

    On a good note. Glad it came out well. I'm gonna do another batch in a week or so. Don't have the weed atm.
  13. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Very good idea. Thank you.

    Purging this second run... this came out, looking much more clear and a smoother surface. The purge, seems to be clearing off faster (though, I heated my pan first and we got early sun for some reason). I'll update as it goes. I'm going to get at least another gram, it looks like.

    Stay tuned.
    Why? Its working. I haven't heard good things about PVC, just because no one has really done a study on PVC and butane. I've heard its good for one run. I've heard its not good at all. Not a hardship, to pass it by. There's a lot of nice options out there. Heck, even the smaller tubes than mine at reasonable between $20-30. And it works great! Easy to hold, easy to blast with butane.
  14. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Yeah, great idea. I found a dab stuck on the side of my LSV where it stuck when I was pulling some off and have actually lost a couple trying to get that shit in the wand.
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  15. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    I'm not sure what the laws are. My budtender says, their lawyer told them, no BHO/QWISO, whatsoever. Don't take the chance. Buddy at the LHS, who has moving a few hundred grams a week... says TWO grams can get you 7 years, minimum... same laws as meth. Budtender, says that's horse@#$%. I'm not taking the chance. I'll make it for me and a few friends.
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  16. shredhead

    shredhead Specialist

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    A long time ago I made some QWISO but didn't filter the thc out of the iso very well and it came out as perfect blonde crumbly hash. I think I'm gunna try it again. I have a reusable coffee filter that would be perfect.
  17. Bon Dog

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    1.3 from 3? that means u have but thats 40% the hmmm... those numbers dont add up, it should have been closer to half that even with A++ bud. did u put alot of keif in with it?
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  18. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Hey... turns out Mike (OGB) has a BHO extractor. Pretty nice one, though its not his. He's just selling them. I was looking at these, online earlier. They look pretty useful. A 5g one would be perfect for me.

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  19. Bon Dog

    Bon Dog Well-Known Member

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    personally i dont like all the parts. i like a simple design
  20. smokum

    smokum The Guy Your Mother Warned You About

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    I kinda like the breakdown..... would make for easier cleaning than the tubes I currently have.

    Also like the idea of a 50 micron stainless steel screen as opposed to coffee filters.

    Let us know if you grab one... a review is in order post hast :nod:
  21. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Oh... I forgot. My final run, didn't net @#$% really. Got .3 grams. So for 13 grams (I weighed out the bud, I pinched from the original 15g - 2g total), my total return on BHO was 2.3g. Not bad, I suppose.

    I like that system, Mike is selling. Comes with screens and everything.

    EDIT: Oh, I'm not going to buy it now. I just bought an adapter for my SSFG and another 18/14 reducer (need 2 of them)
  22. Bon Dog

    Bon Dog Well-Known Member

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    hey 18% is quite good! for me 20% is what i usually aim for (if u can really aim in bho lol), lol hope for 20%
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  23. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Yeah, it was very good bud, plus I didn't mention that I also used all of my ABV in that batch.
  24. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Hell, I have a whole mason jar of the previously vaped stuff.
  25. Bon Dog

    Bon Dog Well-Known Member

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    ahhhh that would explain the X2 yield lol
    ooohh, tbh i like abv oil more sometimes... ie for sleep (my numb1 problem)

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