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First QWISO runs ever - Open to criticism & commentary

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by oneinfinitecreator, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. zourdiesel

    zourdiesel Active Member

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    watup! hey yea im interested in what you did, i make qwiso out of ease and discreetness. been wanting to try making bho, this looks like a method i could do.
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  2. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    I only did a few things differently. I just blasted my weed right in the mason jar. It blows it around at first but you're gonna swish anyway.

    I let the weed dry and ran another quick wash.

    When the butane and settled down and evapped a bit, I added some everclear to it stirred it till it settled again and put it back on evap. That is is supposed to help get rid of all the butane.

    I evapped in a flat glass container instead of the teapot thing he used and double boiled it.

    It worked like a charm. I just hit it a little bit ago and it kicks ass.
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  3. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    Is it normal for QWISO to taste....like iso? I find mine does. I've let it sit for like 5-6 days on my oil slick pad now. I can do "cloud dabs" with the 2 cap method, but I can't seem to avoid that iso taste.

    Is there no way to purge it better to make it iso free 100%?
  4. StickyShisha

    StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    i find that iso always tastes like that. I now use ethanol.
  5. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    I was looking into using everclear, but I'm told the starches and sugars would be worse to vape?
  6. fake name

    fake name Well-Known Member

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    I have never tasted iso in my qwiso. it does have a weird taste, but not like iso. You may not have purged fully, though sitting for days should do it, or you perhaps are unfamiliar with the taste and are associating it with the iso you used. not sure. If you used 91 % iso and let it air dry you will not have iso left because the iso evaporates before the water.

    Iso will NOT grab the flavor, ime. So it either taste like actual thc, or it tastes like an impurity (if chlorophyll is present its taste will win out) when fully purged.

    edit: darkrom, OF told me in the persei thread that everclear is just lab grade ethanol with a liquor stamp. Its just alcohol and water at the same level as their azeotrope.
  7. StickyShisha

    StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    i like
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  8. dorkus_molorkus

    dorkus_molorkus My member is well known

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    :D a rectified spirit?

    what does that mean?
    2 shots & its a gangbang in ya bum while yr comatose?

    you have to take it rectally? (imagine the carnage with a lighter, baked beans, some RECTIFIED spirit & a live video feed to youtube.)

    I read about a dude who took his port in the evening that way cause he had throat cancer (I think).
    His wife loaded up his bum with a bottle of port one night via an enema, and he died of alcohol poisoning & his poor wife was charged with manslaughter or something like that.
    Fucking bummer! :D

    It was taking the wrong path in life, and has now turned its life around?

    It was broken, and now is fixed?
    the mind boggles.

    sure I could google for the answer, but its much more fun to use my imagination.
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  9. smokum

    smokum The Guy Your Mother Warned You About

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    Until I got a proper vac & chamber I hated the taste of qwiso. That and I find it better with a REALLY quick wash (max 20 second 'swish', not shaking).

    I much prefer BHO for flavor and less chlorophyll (that kills my allergies). Next is to play with polarizing and ditch the waxes butane extracts.

    I've never done the 'liquid' butane YET, but I sure wish I cld afford a recovery unit to try it though.
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  10. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Taking stuff up the rectum, quickest most effective (read: dangerous) way to take meds, alcohol, etc.

    That's why the bum pills for nausea, work pretty damn instantly.

    But, most meds are taken into your system, at the rate they're meant to... taking a ride on the Hershey Highway, is a fast-track to full-dose.
  11. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Picked this up yesterday. It was $50, but as James, the District Manager for the shops, he used the same piece when he was baking 60+ grams a week. He quit selling, when one of the shops tried to order 240 grams. He laughed and said, "Why? So I can go to prison? No." So he's got a lot of info.

    Its Schott glass, pretty thick... and beautifully crafted, with precision for the input and the standard Butane fitting.

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  12. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Dude, that thing is beautiful.
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  13. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    Thanks for the info guys. So you are saying everclear has no sugars or starches? I just want to start using a purer solvent if possible, but I'll still be avoiding butane for the time being.

    I understand the iso should have all evaporated by now (91% iso) but at the same time the taste I'm getting when I 2 cap even the tiniest dab on my cloud my first thought is "ISO FLAVOR!" but that could be in my head. Its just a really strong chemical taste that sort of "tastes like iso smells" if that makes sense.
  14. b0

    b0 Vapor powered

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    Maybe you still have some of the water in the 91% ISO?

    Nice tube there BDV! I think I will ask OGB about a custom tube for 5-7gr.
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  15. StickyShisha

    StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    bitter poison smelling water. :puke:
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  16. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    Very unlikely this many days in IMO. Plus it is a moldable consistency, not runny in the least bit.
  17. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    When you make qwiso there will be some water floating on the top many times at the end of the process. You should always discard that water. If you didn't and let it evap into your qwiso the flavor could be coming from that.


    I'm making one of these this weekend when I have more time.

    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=49338
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  18. zourdiesel

    zourdiesel Active Member

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    alright deadheadbill, i think i got it will be trying sometime this comin week. how long did it take start to finish?
  19. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    well, you could theoretically do it in in an hour and a half or so, but I would give myself at least 3 being the 1st time.
  20. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Thanks!

    I'm obviously still learning. I just found out the district manager for a chain of LHS, was huge into making BHO. He was cooking down 60g at a time. He said it got too crazy when he got an order for 264g. Realized how many years he would get with that much... Threw his hands up and said, I quit.

    He's a grower now. Claims he's going to give me a sizable sampling when he harvests.

    Anyway, I was buying a Boro nail to try (I like the Ti better)... and I saw this thing. So I asked if it was an extractor, he said yeah, I asked to see it. Told me its Schott glass. The nipple is perfectly centered and sized, he says. He pointed out the flare, which I was noobish on. However he starts going into microns, whoa... Hold up, dude. He wants me to wait, until he brings me some, 120 micron screen, get a house clamp, etc. I thought he was going to hit me, when I mentioned coffee filters. :lol:

    Cool dude though. Hopefully, his shops are going to buy some Lev glass. Going to work on Steele Concept also.

    Edit: its pretty thick, very smooth, no blemishes, or bubbles, glass. At least 4mm... Feels/sounds solid all the way thru.
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  21. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Definitely watch this guy before your next batch. I used a combo of his tek and the other one I posted for my 1st batch, but will be going completely with this process next time.

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  22. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Don't have access to grain alcohol. But its too late! Muahahahaha!

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    Already done... waiting for the Butane to boil off, then heat bath is waiting. Don't know how much yet, but that @#$% was blowing green for a LONG time. I finally got tired of holding it. LOL! (yes I was wearing gloves)

    Just don't want the neighbors (and our a-hole asst mngr) wondering why I'm blowing butane into that glass tube.
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  23. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    That is a tube of goodness right there.


    Where do you get your ethanol or are you talking about everclear?
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  24. StickyShisha

    StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    i was using EverClear with no problems, but now i use Polish spirits, i think its better

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  25. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    They don't sell Everclear in California. Would have to go across the state line, or know somebody. I know pot and glass dudes. Highest we can get here... is Bacardi 151. I was using that for tinctures, but it was taking too long and I really didn't like the effects.

    Everything I touch now, is @#$%ing sticky as @#$%. When I pulled the filters off, got on my hands. Like trying to peel off tar.

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