The old options ALL looked like cigs but generally they sucked, short batty life, crap product. The new stuff out now is much better....even some of the ciggy shaped stuff but most of us that get going want more...either longer battery life, higher volts, juice feed and folks are building new shit every day. GREAT time to start vaping compared to when I started. RE: the tincture. I have made oodles of variations with so-so results. The oils we love so much do not play well with atomizers. It gunks them up and they get weak...dying a slow horrible death lol. I've done PG, VG, blends... alcohol evap, reconstitute... I came to the conclusion that a BHO infusion would be the next experiment but I'm too chicken to do BHO yet. I picture myself having to explain to husband why I blew my face up or something ROFL!! I also thought that perhaps a centrifuge might be able to spin out oils and then I could see if any of the goodies were absorbed by the PG/VG but alas...I have no centrifuge. If you don't mind ruining an atty you can get some usable juice but I wouldn't make too much or expect the atty to last too long As you can tell...I've given this some thought Oh and I did make the JWH ejuices...they work BUT... I don't like the JWH, I prefer natural goodies.