Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Fenton Mewley, Jul 21, 2015.
I present to you all...The VapCapple.
Gosh I wish I could get my apples to grow vapcaps!
Want to try carb-less temporary? Cut a piece off the gummed strip of a cigarette paper over the carb hole. Just lick it and stick it. Doc
Anyone have experience with consistently using different heat sources, and the effect on the vapor compared to using a butane torch? If this has already been discussed just let me know and I'll delete the post. I've been reading a lot and I can't find much on the search.
I'm using a Ti Omni dialled all the way closed, with a NonaVong body in a plain beaker bong. CCD set to largest capacity.
Triple torch, heated at the very top of the cap almost to the cooling fins, and heated slowly by spinning the cap at the very end of the soft blue flame, NOT the sharp blue inner flame.
By inhaling slow and steady (as if you were sitting in a hot steam sauna, for example), and then clearing the bong by pulling the vape out for the last bit of lung capacity, I can get absolute total extraction - nearly black ABV - in two heat cycles. Big clouds on the exhale. By slow and steady, I mean try to begin with completely empty lungs, and draw from click to click, or as close to it as you can manage.
I had the perfect hit a few days ago - about 95% extraction in one hit as described. The cloud surprised me!
I keep my buds with 58% Bovedas, FWIW.
While myself I'm a fanatic of carbless Vapcaping ,
it seems that on the other extreme side ,some folks just can't get enough of cabholes ...
MAN! This is professional! Your craftsmanship is perfect.
I really think Sneaky Pete is one of the outstanding reviewers on YouTube. Here he is reviewing the new sandblasted M....
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Just ordered the SB M, Damn VAS. I think I will gift the original M to my friend if I like the SB M . Just want more friend to fuck combustion .
That's my plan also, @paehtod - I have two on the way, so I'll have two more regular M's to give away, leaving two regular ones for out and about impromptu sharing. My plan is to rig one SB M for concentrate use, and use the other for flower.
On another note of good fortune, last night after my rehearsals I opened up FC and had a couple of PM's......my @phattpiggie order is on its way, as is my @Pipes Portside induction heater. Going to be some serious experimenting going on late next week!!!!
Guys I have a problem, I've had my omni for less than 3 weeks and I already have a wish list created for Black Friday...
On an unrelated note, I was wondering if twisting the mp and/or holding down the carb makes a difference in terms of the ratio between convection/conduction? From my understanding, the vapcaps are a hybrid device--is it fair to assume that restricting the airflow will produce a more conductive effect and vice versa?
Finally got the 18/14mm reducer in so i was able to test out the vc gong. The gong is from Alan @ toasty tops, I'm using it with an M stainless steel tip. The bubbler is an FC-187.
Works excellently with or without water. I tried both. I prefer without water though... Personally i don't like anything muting the flavor or the harshness... But i had visible vapor on the exhale both ways.
Honestly i probably won't do this that often though... It's a nice option to have when i want to switch things up a little, but i really enjoy the joint like ritual, quickness and ease of using the vapcap by itself.
Not really a problem, unless you are not paying your bills and buying vapes anyway.......any other issues, there is plenty of help in these pages........
As to your question, there is no single answer with VC's! So many variables, just respect the click and you will likely find several techniques that work for you. Read and practice, practice and read, it just keeps getting more finely tuned on an individual level.
While you're getting acquainted with the VC universe, take a look at @phattpiggie and @Winegums and @stardustsailor for custom stems. Also look into @Pipes induction heaters, they are a real game changer. Last, but probably most important for this thread, get to know @Squiby she is a fount of information on all things Vapcap!
He is, always replies to me on instagram if i need help or advice on a vape, hes veen very helpful!
My feeling is that restricting airflow via the air intake carb or through dialing down the Omni condenser achieves the same thing with the difference being an automatic vs manual approach.
I think that the tip determines the degree of convection action. The titanium tip with its deep set channels and carved tip ridges allows for more air to be pulled through the channels under the cap and heated before passing through the herb. Compare this to the M which only has two channels and no ridges.
With the airflow restricted, the amount of air pulled through the tips channels and heated is maximized, creating thicker, denser vapor.
Unrestricted airflow blends fresh air with the vapor. The fresh air comes in through the airport, travels down to the tip, makes a 180° turn creating turbulence, which then helps pull vapor into the condenser and cools it before inhalation.
Thanks, I definitely will, their craftsmanship is top notch! It's a little overwhelming with how many variations and accessories you can have with the vapcaps as a newcomer but I'm sure I'll get the hang of everything soon with more practice
I actually reached out to Squiby before receiving my omni. She not only explained how to initially clean the VC before the first use but also how to do a deep clean with step by step instructions, which was incredibly helpful. I should also mention that I did everything she recommended EXCEPT for placing the tip opening down on a towel to take out the CCD screen. I wanted to see the 3 chamber load sizes so I had the tip opening facing up...the CCD nearly hit me in the eye lol. SO, now I know, Squiby knows what she's talking about!
@Squiby is a legend and nothing less.
Only to add couple of notes :
-While the Titanium and stainless steel tip share almost same thermal properties ,they differ regarding their density.In that manner the Ti tip has almost half the mass of the SS tip.
The mass difference -as also the grooves & air gaps -involved "define" the Ti tip as more "convective" ,while the SS tip is more "conductive" .
-The operation of the carb hole is actually dictated by the Bernulli effect/principle.
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Velocity vs pressure.Large diameter (stem) vs small diameter (condenser) .
Once you draw ,the air enters through the carbhole into the stem .
Then it takes a sudden 180° turn and enters the condenser.
Since the incoming air moves from a large diameter into a smaller diameter tube ,it's velocity increases.That creates a pressure difference ,exactly where the condenser tube end is located
inside or near the tip.That pressure difference "pulls" vapor from inside the tip into the condenser.The turbulance created by the 180° turn ,
makes the air velocity difference stem versus condenser ) even greater,
thus increasing the pressure difference ,thus forces more vapor to be mixed with the incoming air.
A VapCap with the carb hole open differs operation-wise from a VapCap with the carb hole closed (or without a carbhole at all ! ) ,like the day differs from night .
Still the carbhole has nothing to do with making the VC more convective or more conductive.
It alters other things like the air /vapor ratio,the vapor temperature ,the amount of reclaim oil
condensed on the condenser,the draw resistance (incoming air velocity),just to name a few amongst others.
Beware of flying CCDs. They will try to escape captivity at every given opportunity.
Like Grandma said: "Boy, always mind the flying CCDs! Remember what happened to Grandpa!"...
Yes, indeed......if this was church, she would be Our Lady of the Vapcap
Yeah I didn't buy the M until I read all miss Squiby's stuff up to that point. Dedicated reference. Selflessly repeats the golden nuggets to the new folks. Thanks Miss Squiby!
Wait... this is not the "Justified Church of the Holy Dynavapers" here?
Did I take the wrong door? Again?
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