Dynavap VapCap

[hweezi]

You will not combust if you;

1. Don't heat past the click

2. Don't re-heat before the off clicks

3. Heat your cap evenly

I find the best way to control temp is where I'm heating it on the cap. So at front of the cap were the crimp is would be low temp, then the middle and the base before the digger would be high temp.

I like to slowly make my way up the cap as I heat it for better flavour.

When I did that kind of heating and drawing with my Vapcap the taste was suffering big time... Good thing it works for you buddy!

Ohhh yeah, flavour isnt as great that low on the cap but I find that you'll still get a tasty enough first hit and then it tastes like a mflb all the way home which I don't mind too much, its definitely not combustion, fuck that

 

[Vapodudule]

Been caught likA fish!

 

[Mister G]

USPS tracking shows that my Cocobolo Woody Ti is sitting in the post office 3 blocks from my house. Should I break in there tonight or wait until tomorrow's delivery?

 

[Madcap79]

Hmmmmm. I haven't received any shipping notification. @Mister G , did you get a dugout too?

 

[Mister G]

Hmmmmm. I haven't received any shipping notification. @Mister G , did you get a dugout too?

I did not order a stash, wanted to see how I get along with the VC first. I believe I was in the first batch of woody's shipped, a page back I think George said the second batch will be going out very soon as he's doing a lot of shipping prep this weekend. I hope I can get clouds as nice as @cwheezy out of her.

 

[paytonpenn]

You will not combust if you;

1. Don't heat past the click

But I have combusted right when the click came. I like to heat mine before the click and try and avoid the click altogether, gives great flavor on the first two hits and clouds after those. Also better flavor throughout the entire session.

 

[Farid]

Oh wow, those last pictures look really nice. Love the added grooves on the TI tips, especially after reading people's airflow concerns. Mine might not make it in time to go under the Christmas tree, but I'll deal.

 

[Nilsson]

I tried about 20 loads now in the Vapcap, about 15 were combusted without heating after the click and with a single torch. My daily vaporizer is the vapman for some months now, so i know about learning curves.

Maybe the Vapcap is not the right vaporizer for me, until now i dont like the taste, the smell and the instant dirt in the vapcap (the dirt is probably some oil, but after 1 load it is already too dirty to use it in public). I will try on to use the vapcap, but sadly i doubt that the vapcap will be better or equal (for me) in taste, efficiency, smell and/or cleaning than the vapman.

I have to say that i use the vapcap without the inner glass tube, because i broke it after first usage (combusted) while cleaning.

George @VapCap was great from the beginning with the first campaign. He always answered my mails in hours, he even offered to send me a new inner glass tube to europe for free, and he knew that it was clearly my fault that i broke it.

I hope i find a way to use and like the vapcap. Tipps are welcome.

 

[Madcap79]

I tried about 20 loads now in the Vapcap, about 15 were combusted without heating after the click and with a single torch. My daily vaporizer is the vapman for some months now, so i know about learning curves.

Maybe the Vapcap is not the right vaporizer for me, until now i dont like the taste, the smell and the instant dirt in the vapcap (the dirt is probably some oil, but after 1 load it is already too dirty to use it in public). I will try on to use the vapcap, but sadly i doubt that the vapcap will be better or equal (for me) in taste, efficiency, smell and/or cleaning than the vapman.

I have to say that i use the vapcap without the inner glass tube, because i broke it after first usage (combusted) while cleaning.

George @VapCap was great from the beginning with the first campaign. He always answered my mails in hours, he even offered to send me a new inner glass tube to europe for free, and he knew that it was clearly my fault that i broke it.

I hope i find a way to use and like the vapcap. Tipps are welcome.

How full are you packing the bowl? Loose pack?

 

[hweezi]

So I've been using my Vapcap today and I think I understand how it works a little more. I'd say it's about 70% conduction and 30% convection (completely pulled that outta my ass). I'm getting excited thinking how with the new tips could significantly increase convection by 5-10%.

I was using it like normally do now. I heat lower to the end of the cap (the end being the poker side) and slowly make it up to the middle of the cape to make it click faster. You'll notice it does click a lot later on the poker side than it does on the crimped. With each cap being different perhaps that's why you combusted @paytonpenn Maybe it was where your torch was pointed too long.

I keep mine spinning as I heat it. I try to be quick.

So towards the end of the heat cycle I was pulling hard with my finger on the carb and I was still getting quite thick vapor with the little air flow that I had. That just has to be convection vapor being pulled through the outside of the cap because when you let off of the carb you get no visible vapor. Which is why it makes me excited for those new tips. More heated air channels so, more convection Plus with the tips being titanium they'll hold heat longer than glass! I'm stoked

I think you could argue that you're still getting some or that it's still vaping when you're pulling finger off the carb. But I'd say you're draw would cool it off way too quickly. I honestly don't know.

 

[Belgianvapor]

a couple of days ago I broke off a piece of glass of the "herb chamber" on my vapcap.
Completely my fault, I cleaned too rough after using it with hash.
Since then I didn't use it untill today and the little bugger still works great.
I feared for combustion without the glass between the herb and the cap but no cumbustion at all.

 

[Nilsson]

@Madcap79 i grind the herbs, fill it in a small container and dip the vapcap in it. I have tried it with 1 dip (loose) and tried it with up to 5 dips, so it gets pressed. No real difference. Maybe i rotate it to slow and need more training. I also tried different flame sizes and flame-vapcap-touching-points, but i nearly always end in real bad taste, mostly in the first cycle.

 

[Madcap79]

It could be slow rotation. I usually rotate it fairly quickly. I pack the bowl half full and fairly loose. Sorry to hear you're having a bad experience. Did you get a 3 flame lighter?

 

[TxdoHawk]

Update time.

As you may see below, I have a box full of happiness ready to ship out.

But, these look so good, I don't know if I can part with them.... But I know I need to.
I have some more VapCaps heading off to college too.

I find it somewhat amazing how many of these fit into such a small space. It sure seems this is a rather compact unit.
The Ti Woodies started shipping on Thursday, and there will be a bunch more going out Monday morning. I will be assembling and packing up these goodies all weekend.
I sure hope these bring their new caretakers as much joy as the have brought me watching them grow up.

I will post some more pictures of the Ti Woody parts and how they work tonight.

Cheers,

George

Hyyyyyype. Thanks for all the hard work, George. I'm looking forward to getting mine!

Just got back I cleaned and took the VapCap to Las Vegas. No problem at the airport or casino.

Yeah, I think the VapCap is going to be super-ideal for stealth. All cleaned up, just looks like a small, weird little glass tube. Of course, no torch lighters allowed on planes still...

 

[Vapenvy]

and the instant dirt in the vapcap (the dirt is probably some oil, but after 1 load it is already too dirty to use it in public).

This is why i was very keen to grab a ti woody. I really like the vaponic, but the all glass construction meant it wasn't suitable for public or 'polite company', or near water or hard surfaces or...

The vapcap caught my attention straight away because of the timed heating of the clicking cap, which removes some of the guesswork you have with other flame vapes, but i wasn't sold because of the glass, until the woodie solved this.

It will hopefully be my out and about vape to use in a beer garden or with the smokers.

Having said that, i did pick up a few basics for gifts or a fully cleanable travel vape.

Hopefully mine go out with todays batch/mail, but i will survive if they don't (probably )

 

[Nilsson]

@Madcap79 Yes, i got the three flame lighter, but did not get used to it until now and i think, the temp control should be easier with the single torch.

 

[VapCap]

Ti Woody Explained in graphic detail.

Here it is. The pictures and explanation I am a bit overdue on. I needed to get the machining under control so I could get these beauties shipped, and needed to finish up a patent filing before I was able to get into all of the details. So here we go.

Here is what all the parts look like disassembled. An important note is this unit and all my current units are very easy to take apart and reassemble without tools. This is rather nice for cleaning.

First thing to notice is how the condenser tube (the thin metal tube with the two o-rings on it) is longer than the wood stem. The allows the condenser to extend into the Titanium tip a good distance for a few important reasons.

#1 This reduces the amount of residue from extraction that comes in contact with the wood to almost zero. This keeps the wood from taking on an odor from whatever you are using in your unit.
#2 This helps with temperature and heat management. As some of you with VapCaps are aware, there is a substantial amount of air that comes in the air port or hole as the cap does fit somewhat tight. This airflow performs a few really important functions.
A. It cools the condenser tube which then helps cool the vapor as it transits from the extraction chamber.
B. As the air cools the condenser, it is warmed up which keeps the extraction at temperature longer.
#3 The coaxial arrangement of the condenser tube within the titanium tip creates a pressure drop as the dilution air velocity is accelerated as it flows through this annular space, and faster flow means lower pressure. A lower pressure here helps pull the vapor out of the extraction chamber in the titanium tip without the need for much flow through the tip.
I have heard many comments on the restricted flow through these devices, but please understand, it will be difficult to increase it substantially. The Ti tips should flow better and more consistently than the glass units as these are machined to a precise tolerance and the glass isn't. But keep in mind, the more airflow through the extraction chamber, the faster the temperature drop. There is a balance here that needs to be maintained and perhaps dialed in a bit more, but if all goes well, I will have that addressed soon. I am working on an airflow improvement and user actuated variable adjustment design, but am primarily focused on order fulfillment right now.

The condenser tube has two different sized four lobed O-rings on it. The larger one is on the end, and it allows for a friction fit into the end of the wood stem. The next one is just a bit smaller, and it helps keep the tube centered inside the stem. This one needs to be between the dilution air inlet port and the mouth end O-ring. If it is between the air port and the tip, it will block the airflow.

Next is the high temperature O-rings. These are awesome. Call me strange, but I really like O-rings. Extremely simple and useful devices. In this application, they serve several very important functions.

#1 Thermal isolation. These high temperature O-rings keep the really hot Ti tip from completely touching the wood. This reduces how hot the wood gets, and helps keep the Ti tip hot for a longer period.
#2 Fitment. The O-rings allow for variance in the wood internal diameter. This permits different expansion and contraction rates for the wood versus the Ti tip as well as the typical shifting in dimension wood experiences due to humidity. With these O-rings, the tip can just push right on and stay put.
#3 Universal fit. These tips represent the beginning of the DynaVap modular vaporizer system. These tips and the condenser tube will fit into both a Ti Woody stem, or a glass tube, and what I hope will be an ever increasing array of accessories both from me and hopefully some created by the vaporizer community. Just make a piece with an 8mm bore, and it fits! This also allows for the Ti Woody stem to be inverted in case you prefer your dilution air hole to be closer to the tip.

This picture shows how far the condenser tube goes into the Ti tip.

Here is a picture of the mouthpiece end with the condenser tube installed. It should be rather flush with the end of the wood. Does it get hot? Well if you touch it directly with your lips while completely plugging the dilution air port, you will probably notice the temperature, but I haven't found this to be a problem or the tube to be hot enough to hurt.

I also have a picture of the inside of the new Ti tips. The ceramic diffuser is held in place by a very small retainer ring and both pieces can be pushed out with, wait for it.... The condenser tube. No special tools needed! This gives the caretaker the ability to completely disassemble the unit to clean and or replace parts.

The helical grooves are intended for airflow. They are designed to channel the air around the fins and the around the extraction chamber to preheat it so it does not prematurely cool down the chamber below the required temperature for effective extraction.
I think they also look interesting.

As always, please do not hesitate to contact me with questions or thoughts.

Cheers,

George

 

[Petro]

*checks Woodie tracking status*

 

[bounce5]

Ti Woody Explained in graphic detail.

Here it is. The pictures and explanation I am a bit overdue on. I needed to get the machining under control so I could get these beauties shipped, and needed to finish up a patent filing before I was able to get into all of the details. So here we go.

Here is what all the parts look like disassembled. An important note is this unit and all my current units are very easy to take apart and reassemble without tools. This is rather nice for cleaning.

First thing to notice is how the condenser tube (the thin metal tube with the two o-rings on it) is longer than the wood stem. The allows the condenser to extend into the Titanium tip a good distance for a few important reasons.

#1 This reduces the amount of residue from extraction that comes in contact with the wood to almost zero. This keeps the wood from taking on an odor from whatever you are using in your unit.
#2 This helps with temperature and heat management. As some of you with VapCaps are aware, there is a substantial amount of air that comes in the air port or hole as the cap does fit somewhat tight. This airflow performs a few really important functions.
A. It cools the condenser tube which then helps cool the vapor as it transits from the extraction chamber.
B. As the air cools the condenser, it is warmed up which keeps the extraction at temperature longer.
#3 The coaxial arrangement of the condenser tube within the titanium tip creates a pressure drop as the dilution air velocity is accelerated as it flows through this annular space, and faster flow means lower pressure. A lower pressure here helps pull the vapor out of the extraction chamber in the titanium tip without the need for much flow through the tip.
I have heard many comments on the restricted flow through these devices, but please understand, it will be difficult to increase it substantially. The Ti tips should flow better and more consistently than the glass units as these are machined to a precise tolerance and the glass isn't. But keep in mind, the more airflow through the extraction chamber, the faster the temperature drop. There is a balance here that needs to be maintained and perhaps dialed in a bit more, but if all goes well, I will have that addressed soon. I am working on an airflow improvement and user actuated variable adjustment design, but am primarily focused on order fulfillment right now.

The condenser tube has two different sized four lobed O-rings on it. The larger one is on the end, and it allows for a friction fit into the end of the wood stem. The next one is just a bit smaller, and it helps keep the tube centered inside the stem. This one needs to be between the dilution air inlet port and the mouth end O-ring. If it is between the air port and the tip, it will block the airflow.

Next is the high temperature O-rings. These are awesome. Call me strange, but I really like O-rings. Extremely simple and useful devices. In this application, they serve several very important functions.

#1 Thermal isolation. These high temperature O-rings keep the really hot Ti tip from completely touching the wood. This reduces how hot the wood gets, and helps keep the Ti tip hot for a longer period.
#2 Fitment. The O-rings allow for variance in the wood internal diameter. This permits different expansion and contraction rates for the wood versus the Ti tip as well as the typical shifting in dimension wood experiences due to humidity. With these O-rings, the tip can just push right on and stay put.
#3 Universal fit. These tips represent the beginning of the DynaVap modular vaporizer system. These tips and the condenser tube will fit into both a Ti Woody stem, or a glass tube, and what I hope will be an ever increasing array of accessories both from me and hopefully some created by the vaporizer community. Just make a piece with an 8mm bore, and it fits! This also allows for the Ti Woody stem to be inverted in case you prefer your dilution air hole to be closer to the tip.

This picture shows how far the condenser tube goes into the Ti tip.

Here is a picture of the mouthpiece end with the condenser tube installed. It should be rather flush with the end of the wood. Does it get hot? Well if you touch it directly with your lips while completely plugging the dilution air port, you will probably notice the temperature, but I haven't found this to be a problem or the tube to be hot enough to hurt.

I also have a picture of the inside of the new Ti tips. The ceramic diffuser is held in place by a very small retainer ring and both pieces can be pushed out with, wait for it.... The condenser tube. No special tools needed! This gives the caretaker the ability to completely disassemble the unit to clean and or replace parts.

The helical grooves are intended for airflow. They are designed to channel the air around the fins and the around the extraction chamber to preheat it so it does not prematurely cool down the chamber below the required temperature for effective extraction.
I think they also look interesting.

As always, please do not hesitate to contact me with questions or thoughts.

Cheers,

George

Wow, thanks for that detailed explanation. I kind of wish I had ordered one. Good to hear the end of the SS tube doesn't get hot on the lips. Love those helical grooves...The vape looks good, although I kind of wish the mouthpiece was more rounded at the end. Maybe there is a good reason for it to be flat like it is. Now I await reviews....or maybe a video, George?

 

[Mister G]

While I was out all day today, the USPS delivered my Woody on a Sunday!

I've played around just a little with it, some quick observations:

--Smaller than I imagined
--The Click is cool!
--Cap stays hotter after cool down click than I anticipated, have to wait a little bit longer to handle it, not a huge deal though
--Still working on technique but able to produce decent small clouds, not like in @cwheezy 's video though, but I'll keep working on it, did not use a water tool, just native for now.
ABV on my two runs was very dark, but I did not combust (felt like I got pretty close though)
--Flavor only ok so far for me, a bit roasty
--Effects definitely there, just two chambers extracted, but I'm medicated.

I'll post some pics and more thorough review later when I've spent more time with it, late and time for bed now.

 

[ScienceKush]

For the people who are having trouble hitting big clouds thought that maybe your herb is just low quality? It just seems to make sense that even if you are hitting the VC properly, you are not going to make big clouds if you don't have that high grade herb.

Happy Vaping everybody!

 

[IAmKrazy2]

Ti Woody Explained in graphic detail.

Here it is. The pictures and explanation I am a bit overdue on. I needed to get the machining under control so I could get these beauties shipped, and needed to finish up a patent filing before I was able to get into all of the details. So here we go.

Here is what all the parts look like disassembled. An important note is this unit and all my current units are very easy to take apart and reassemble without tools. This is rather nice for cleaning.

First thing to notice is how the condenser tube (the thin metal tube with the two o-rings on it) is longer than the wood stem. The allows the condenser to extend into the Titanium tip a good distance for a few important reasons.

#1 This reduces the amount of residue from extraction that comes in contact with the wood to almost zero. This keeps the wood from taking on an odor from whatever you are using in your unit.
#2 This helps with temperature and heat management. As some of you with VapCaps are aware, there is a substantial amount of air that comes in the air port or hole as the cap does fit somewhat tight. This airflow performs a few really important functions.
A. It cools the condenser tube which then helps cool the vapor as it transits from the extraction chamber.
B. As the air cools the condenser, it is warmed up which keeps the extraction at temperature longer.
#3 The coaxial arrangement of the condenser tube within the titanium tip creates a pressure drop as the dilution air velocity is accelerated as it flows through this annular space, and faster flow means lower pressure. A lower pressure here helps pull the vapor out of the extraction chamber in the titanium tip without the need for much flow through the tip.
I have heard many comments on the restricted flow through these devices, but please understand, it will be difficult to increase it substantially. The Ti tips should flow better and more consistently than the glass units as these are machined to a precise tolerance and the glass isn't. But keep in mind, the more airflow through the extraction chamber, the faster the temperature drop. There is a balance here that needs to be maintained and perhaps dialed in a bit more, but if all goes well, I will have that addressed soon. I am working on an airflow improvement and user actuated variable adjustment design, but am primarily focused on order fulfillment right now.

The condenser tube has two different sized four lobed O-rings on it. The larger one is on the end, and it allows for a friction fit into the end of the wood stem. The next one is just a bit smaller, and it helps keep the tube centered inside the stem. This one needs to be between the dilution air inlet port and the mouth end O-ring. If it is between the air port and the tip, it will block the airflow.

Next is the high temperature O-rings. These are awesome. Call me strange, but I really like O-rings. Extremely simple and useful devices. In this application, they serve several very important functions.

#1 Thermal isolation. These high temperature O-rings keep the really hot Ti tip from completely touching the wood. This reduces how hot the wood gets, and helps keep the Ti tip hot for a longer period.
#2 Fitment. The O-rings allow for variance in the wood internal diameter. This permits different expansion and contraction rates for the wood versus the Ti tip as well as the typical shifting in dimension wood experiences due to humidity. With these O-rings, the tip can just push right on and stay put.
#3 Universal fit. These tips represent the beginning of the DynaVap modular vaporizer system. These tips and the condenser tube will fit into both a Ti Woody stem, or a glass tube, and what I hope will be an ever increasing array of accessories both from me and hopefully some created by the vaporizer community. Just make a piece with an 8mm bore, and it fits! This also allows for the Ti Woody stem to be inverted in case you prefer your dilution air hole to be closer to the tip.

This picture shows how far the condenser tube goes into the Ti tip.

Here is a picture of the mouthpiece end with the condenser tube installed. It should be rather flush with the end of the wood. Does it get hot? Well if you touch it directly with your lips while completely plugging the dilution air port, you will probably notice the temperature, but I haven't found this to be a problem or the tube to be hot enough to hurt.

I also have a picture of the inside of the new Ti tips. The ceramic diffuser is held in place by a very small retainer ring and both pieces can be pushed out with, wait for it.... The condenser tube. No special tools needed! This gives the caretaker the ability to completely disassemble the unit to clean and or replace parts.

The helical grooves are intended for airflow. They are designed to channel the air around the fins and the around the extraction chamber to preheat it so it does not prematurely cool down the chamber below the required temperature for effective extraction.
I think they also look interesting.

As always, please do not hesitate to contact me with questions or thoughts.

Cheers,

George

You have really done your homework since your first posts here George. And after explanation i see how diffrent the Ti woodie is from the original. Looking forward to the modular designs.

I appreciate the detailed explanation of airflow and its effects on the vaporization process within your device. Your explanation again seems to hint your intension is to pull on the VC with the airport open. I am enjoying this method often myself.

With winter months ahead in Michigan any thoughts on how extremely cold air may effect this device? Thanks.

 

[Mister G]

Still practicing with it, but my VapCap definitely works. Quick question:

I'm often getting two clicks on both heat up and cool down, a soft click followed later by a loud click.

The loud click is quite loud, like a finger snapping. Anyone else get two clicks?

 

[IAmKrazy2]

Still practicing with it, but my VapCap definitely works. Quick question:

I'm often getting two clicks on both heat up and cool down, a soft click followed later by a loud click.

The loud click is quite loud, like a finger snapping. Anyone else get two clicks?

Yup. Expecially from a cold start.

 

[hoyo77]

Hmmm just got an email saying that my order was complete for the TI woody i pre-ordered..hopefully i get the real thing by Xmas!!!