Dynalowrider

Well-Known Member
I can tell from this thread, very few people on here have ever visited a manufacturing facility any closer than "How its Made".
Imagine a dish-pan filled with "M" stems. Couple thousand or more, and yours is at the bottom of the pan soaking up grime.
You vibrate them rinse them. Dump them on a drying rack to drain.
Now the price on the final product is fairly low. Now add Twenty or thirty thousand to George's annual budget to hire someone to make them pristine. How do you think he puts out a reasonable priced vape?
Maybe you should shoulder some of the task of cleaning yourself, you are getting the benefits of not doing the pristine cleaning. Doc
 

Whisper

Well-Known Member
@Dynalowrider It's funny, I was thinking pretty much the same thing. Clean before using, not a whole bunch of work is it? One of the first things I've learned, clean it before you use it. I wash my clothes, when newly purchased, before wearing. I wash new dishes, before eating off of them. I wash my fruits and veggies before eating them. It may take 10 minutes, but, I figure it's better than particles of metal shavings in my lungs, or
diarrhea in my toilet. I guess we all make our choices. Think about it that way
 

-dab8-

Dyna-saur
I can tell from this thread, very few people on here have ever visited a manufacturing facility any closer than "How its Made".
Imagine a dish-pan filled with "M" stems. Couple thousand or more, and yours is at the bottom of the pan soaking up grime.
You vibrate them rinse them. Dump them on a drying rack to drain.
Now the price on the final product is fairly low. Now add Twenty or thirty thousand to George's annual budget to hire someone to make them pristine. How do you think he puts out a reasonable priced vape?
Maybe you should shoulder some of the task of cleaning yourself, you are getting the benefits of not doing the pristine cleaning. Doc

Agree 100%.

But...

I do think there should be something on the instructions that recommends a clean first. Is it self explanatory for most of us? Of course. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be listed as a step for first time users. I have found sharp metal shavings in my stems.
 

Madri-Gal

Child Of The Revolution
Hi everyone, first time long time. Vaping with my Omnivong (off tomorrow yay!) and just wanted to share my set up during down time.

Thnx all and any questions, feel free to ask. Yes, those are adult onsie jammies.

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It wasn't the rockin jammies that I wondered about, it was the cylinder at the bottom that I tried to figure out. I got as far as thinking maybe it was water you brought in for your rig, but there is ice...so I finally figured out it was a beverage. It looks like a nice set up. Great to see you are keeping hydrated. Sheesh, I have stoner brain, and I'm not even vaping right now.
 

Dynalowrider

Well-Known Member
I guess I'm OCD, no I'm a lot OCD, and I even wash bananas before peeling.
I have spent half my life working in a manufacturing environment.
So many things that can effect your product. If the ionizer goes out then you get spots on the products.
It's not like you put raw material in one end and a little green envelope comes out the other all clean and shiny. "AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH"
Here is a cut in stone instruction, "CLEAN THE DAMN THING BEFORE USING". Hello, is there anyone in there? "CLEAN THE DAMN THING BEFORE USING".
I now pass the soap box to the next rant. Doc
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Something this size will work fine, but I tend to go smaller with a VC. The VC doesn't displace as much air as some of my higher flow vapes like RBT vapes or the Lotus and a smaller piece is easier to manage for me, so a D020 or an Ash Catcher and a J-Hook make a better pairing.
I do think there should be something on the instructions that recommends a clean first.
My last DV purchase was the Shadow M, and that came with a sticker recommending cleaning. I think that is all that is needed to remind folks who don't think about it that anything you put in your mouth, and especially anything you breathe through should be cleaned before using.
 

horst

horsed
thanks for the feedback. Is rosin stronger than whole flower in your opinion? you're consuming 2-3 grams of rosin per month? If so what does that equate to? A dab a day?

nono, sorry for the confusion. 2-3g of real flowers, and from this amount I squeeze a gram sometimes, resulting in roughly 0,2g rosin, that are 3-5 dabs for me out of it. I'm a lightweight.

In my opinion it is not as strong as flowers. when I vape 0.1 of flowers it is a little bit more intense then vaping the rosin pressed out of it, guess thats due to a bit remaining in the flowers. But I need just 2-3 draws instead of 10 for the amount of flowers and it tastes much more intense. :)

so, for me, using a dynavap with a coil and rosin instead of flowers is for a quick and flavorfull hit in between, when it is not the right time to stretch it out with flowers. at least in theory, still waiting. :)
 
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Ricardo

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nono, sorry for the confusion. 2-3g of real flowers, and from this amount I squeeze a gram sometimes, resulting in roughly 0,2g rosin, that are 3-5 dabs for me out of it. I'm a lightweight.
I'm very interested to try this and the hair straightener method on YouTube doesn't look complicated but I just watched one dude press a gram of flower for one dab of rosin. That gram would give me 15 - 20 reduced chamber sessions with the Vapcap ... @ approx 0.05g a load.
I have questions : Can I use a clothes iron instead of a hair straightener?
Is there any goodness left in the pressed bud? Is rosin way (like x10) more potent than flowers ?
EDIT : Would it make any sense to press pre-ground bud? And, if I did that and scraped it all up together, would that be an enhanced product or something disgusting like mixing coca-cola, fanta & strawberry cordial?
 
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-dab8-

Dyna-saur
I'm very interested to try this and the hair straightener method on YouTube doesn't look complicated but I just watched one dude press a gram of flower for one dab of rosin. That gram would give me 15 - 20 reduced chamber sessions with the Vapcap ... @ approx 0.05g a load.
I have questions : Can I use a clothes iron instead of a hair straightener?
Is there any goodness left in the pressed bud? Is rosin way (like x10) more potent than flowers ?
You probably could? Might get too hot, so you would need to play with temperatures. Also you need enough pressure, so you would have to have something very hard underneath that was heat proof, so you could put all your body weight on it. Also would probably need to try a pre-press.
 

Madri-Gal

Child Of The Revolution
I'm very interested to try this and the hair straightener method on YouTube doesn't look complicated but I just watched one dude press a gram of flower for one dab of rosin. That gram would give me 15 - 20 reduced chamber sessions with the Vapcap ... @ approx 0.05g a load.
I have questions : Can I use a clothes iron instead of a hair straightener?
Is there any goodness left in the pressed bud? Is rosin way (like x10) more potent than flowers ?
There is plenty left in the pressed bud. Some use them for tincture, edibles. Any more I just grind twice, then vape the pucks. I'd say give it a try if you are curious .
 

Squiby

Well-Known Member
Never tried rosin but I'm extremely interested in trying some. Do yall feel rosin is 'better' than whole flowers?
I like rosin over other concentrates, other than hash, which I love but consider it to be in its own category.

Rosin is just bud squished under pressure to release all those gooey goody trichomes. Other concentrates are made through chemical extraction which is then evaporated off (never done it myself, just my limited understanding).

So when you vape a concentrate you are getting the "distilled" version, you are inhaling a cleaner product. It's concentrated and stronger than bud and you vape much less. Think beer vs whiskey in terms of strength.

I use concentrates for a variety of reasons; when I want an enhanced clear headed and energetic high from a nice sativa rosin like Durban Poison to help me get through my daily chores. Or, when I need to get a good sleep and it's not coming naturally a nice Indica rosin will put me out in a flash. If I'm in pain a rosin offers a much higher degree of relief with one session without vaping bowls of bud, because it's concentrated.

I don't have one yet but I'm seriously thinking of getting a Slugg-33. It has quite good reviews and it's the most affordable tool I've seen for making rosin. All you need is a bench vice, which I already have and a torch, which I already have....

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/slug-33-rosin-forge.25519/page-49#post-1342186

Does anyone have the Slugg-33 that would recommend it?
 

Ricardo

Well-Known Member
There is plenty left in the pressed bud. Some use them for tincture, edibles. Any more I just grind twice, then vape the pucks. I'd say give it a try if you are curious .
 I only have a little meh weed right now so I thought - if the dabs are super concentrates and the flower still has some oomph, why separate them? Nothing to lose. So I ground 3 or 4 little nugs, no more than 0.2 and tried it in the hair straightener . 15 seconds at lowest heat didn't seem to change much. Turned heat up to halfway for 10 more seconds and put it in the fridge for maybe 5 mins and opened it out. :science: flakey, brittle :lol: Is this shatter or something?? And it vapes lovely.. I got 6 or 7 hits where I normally get 3 .. . . And the so-so weed has me way up around a 9  And there was no waste:)
 

Madri-Gal

Child Of The Revolution
 I only have a little meh weed right now so I thought - if the dabs are super concentrates and the flower still has some oomph, why separate them? Nothing to lose. So I ground 3 or 4 little nugs, no more than 0.2 and tried it in the hair straightener . 15 seconds at lowest heat didn't seem to change much. Turned heat up to halfway for 10 more seconds and put it in the fridge for maybe 5 mins and opened it out. :science: flakey, brittle :lol: Is this shatter or something?? And it vapes lovely.. I got 6 or 7 hits where I normally get 3 .. . . And the so-so weed has me way up around a 9  And there was no waste:)
Yay for you! Guess what your new hobby is?
 

analytika

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My first experience with the dynacoil was disappointing. 2 rounds of heating necessary to melt sugar. 3 more heatings to the click, just terps no clouds. Fourth finally had some meaningful vapor. 2 more made the session. Without an induction heater something like 7 rounds of heating would have been a non-starter. I guess the better approach is to go significantly beyond The click. I was hoping for something Lock and load point and click. Instead it seems fussy, first impression.
 

Vaporware

Well-Known Member
My first experience with the dynacoil was disappointing. 2 rounds of heating necessary to melt sugar. 3 more heatings to the click, just terps no clouds. Fourth finally had some meaningful vapor. 2 more made the session. Without an induction heater something like 7 rounds of heating would have been a non-starter. I guess the better approach is to go significantly beyond The click. I was hoping for something Lock and load point and click. Instead it seems fussy, first impression.

So far what’s worked best for me is using a single flame Aomai low on the cap and going a little past the click on the first heating. I’m still getting used to it since I’be only had it for 2 days, but it can work well.
 

analytika

Well-Known Member
@analytika yes it takes some time to get the heat up time figured out, but if you say fuck the click and just go with what works you’ll be doing it without thinking in no time.
I'm sure what you're saying is true. But it's not what George recommended in his launch video, he said quite clearly you should still trust the click. I'll throw caution to the wind and ignore George instead, sigh
 
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