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Dynavap VapCap

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Fenton Mewley, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. horst

    horst horsed

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    If you never tried rosin before the cheap hair straightener method is enough to get an idea of the whole rosin thing, its very affordable and simple to handle. If this gets you hooked you could advance to the presses I would suggest.

    I'm still happy with the hair straightener method for pressing a gram from time to time. The investment of over 400$ for presses would take a very long time to benefit from the better revenues, if ever. At least in my case (consuming 2-3g of flowers a month).
     
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  2. Dynalowrider

    Dynalowrider Well-Known Member

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    I can tell from this thread, very few people on here have ever visited a manufacturing facility any closer than "How its Made".
    Imagine a dish-pan filled with "M" stems. Couple thousand or more, and yours is at the bottom of the pan soaking up grime.
    You vibrate them rinse them. Dump them on a drying rack to drain.
    Now the price on the final product is fairly low. Now add Twenty or thirty thousand to George's annual budget to hire someone to make them pristine. How do you think he puts out a reasonable priced vape?
    Maybe you should shoulder some of the task of cleaning yourself, you are getting the benefits of not doing the pristine cleaning. Doc
     
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  3. KidFated.

    KidFated. We Don't Even Live Here..

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    Agreed 100% with dynalow,

    When you buy kitchen appliances, you usually clean them before use right? Even though they were made to prepare food you still clean it. Even though it’s supposed to produce vapor, you should still clean it! :myday:


    Machining oil is GROSS!
     
  4. Whisper

    Whisper Well-Known Member

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    @Dynalowrider It's funny, I was thinking pretty much the same thing. Clean before using, not a whole bunch of work is it? One of the first things I've learned, clean it before you use it. I wash my clothes, when newly purchased, before wearing. I wash new dishes, before eating off of them. I wash my fruits and veggies before eating them. It may take 10 minutes, but, I figure it's better than particles of metal shavings in my lungs, or
    diarrhea in my toilet. I guess we all make our choices. Think about it that way
     
  5. Chandler

    Chandler Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the feedback. Is rosin stronger than whole flower in your opinion? you're consuming 2-3 grams of rosin per month? If so what does that equate to? A dab a day?
     
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  6. -dab8-

    -dab8- Dyna-saur

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    Agree 100%.

    But...

    I do think there should be something on the instructions that recommends a clean first. Is it self explanatory for most of us? Of course. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be listed as a step for first time users. I have found sharp metal shavings in my stems.
     
  7. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    It wasn't the rockin jammies that I wondered about, it was the cylinder at the bottom that I tried to figure out. I got as far as thinking maybe it was water you brought in for your rig, but there is ice...so I finally figured out it was a beverage. It looks like a nice set up. Great to see you are keeping hydrated. Sheesh, I have stoner brain, and I'm not even vaping right now.
     
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  8. Whisper

    Whisper Well-Known Member

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    My deductive skills (ha!) guessed it was lemonade. Caught my eye too, @Madri-Gal .
     
  9. Dynalowrider

    Dynalowrider Well-Known Member

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    I guess I'm OCD, no I'm a lot OCD, and I even wash bananas before peeling.
    I have spent half my life working in a manufacturing environment.
    So many things that can effect your product. If the ionizer goes out then you get spots on the products.
    It's not like you put raw material in one end and a little green envelope comes out the other all clean and shiny. "AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH"
    Here is a cut in stone instruction, "CLEAN THE DAMN THING BEFORE USING". Hello, is there anyone in there? "CLEAN THE DAMN THING BEFORE USING".
    I now pass the soap box to the next rant. Doc
     
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  10. cybrguy

    cybrguy I mean really, WTF

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    Something this size will work fine, but I tend to go smaller with a VC. The VC doesn't displace as much air as some of my higher flow vapes like RBT vapes or the Lotus and a smaller piece is easier to manage for me, so a D020 or an Ash Catcher and a J-Hook make a better pairing.
    My last DV purchase was the Shadow M, and that came with a sticker recommending cleaning. I think that is all that is needed to remind folks who don't think about it that anything you put in your mouth, and especially anything you breathe through should be cleaned before using.
     
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  11. horst

    horst horsed

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    nono, sorry for the confusion. 2-3g of real flowers, and from this amount I squeeze a gram sometimes, resulting in roughly 0,2g rosin, that are 3-5 dabs for me out of it. I'm a lightweight.

    In my opinion it is not as strong as flowers. when I vape 0.1 of flowers it is a little bit more intense then vaping the rosin pressed out of it, guess thats due to a bit remaining in the flowers. But I need just 2-3 draws instead of 10 for the amount of flowers and it tastes much more intense. :)

    so, for me, using a dynavap with a coil and rosin instead of flowers is for a quick and flavorfull hit in between, when it is not the right time to stretch it out with flowers. at least in theory, still waiting. :)
     
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  12. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    I'm very interested to try this and the hair straightener method on YouTube doesn't look complicated but I just watched one dude press a gram of flower for one dab of rosin. That gram would give me 15 - 20 reduced chamber sessions with the Vapcap ... @ approx 0.05g a load.
    I have questions : Can I use a clothes iron instead of a hair straightener?
    Is there any goodness left in the pressed bud? Is rosin way (like x10) more potent than flowers ?
    EDIT : Would it make any sense to press pre-ground bud? And, if I did that and scraped it all up together, would that be an enhanced product or something disgusting like mixing coca-cola, fanta & strawberry cordial?
     
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  13. -dab8-

    -dab8- Dyna-saur

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    You probably could? Might get too hot, so you would need to play with temperatures. Also you need enough pressure, so you would have to have something very hard underneath that was heat proof, so you could put all your body weight on it. Also would probably need to try a pre-press.
     
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  14. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    There is plenty left in the pressed bud. Some use them for tincture, edibles. Any more I just grind twice, then vape the pucks. I'd say give it a try if you are curious .
     
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  15. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    I like rosin over other concentrates, other than hash, which I love but consider it to be in its own category.

    Rosin is just bud squished under pressure to release all those gooey goody trichomes. Other concentrates are made through chemical extraction which is then evaporated off (never done it myself, just my limited understanding).

    So when you vape a concentrate you are getting the "distilled" version, you are inhaling a cleaner product. It's concentrated and stronger than bud and you vape much less. Think beer vs whiskey in terms of strength.

    I use concentrates for a variety of reasons; when I want an enhanced clear headed and energetic high from a nice sativa rosin like Durban Poison to help me get through my daily chores. Or, when I need to get a good sleep and it's not coming naturally a nice Indica rosin will put me out in a flash. If I'm in pain a rosin offers a much higher degree of relief with one session without vaping bowls of bud, because it's concentrated.

    I don't have one yet but I'm seriously thinking of getting a Slugg-33. It has quite good reviews and it's the most affordable tool I've seen for making rosin. All you need is a bench vice, which I already have and a torch, which I already have....

    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/slug-33-rosin-forge.25519/page-49#post-1342186

    Does anyone have the Slugg-33 that would recommend it?
     
  16. 3dfx-glide

    3dfx-glide Well-Known Member

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    Yup, doesn't stick. It magnetizes to a fridge super tight but almost not at all to the cap. And it definitely feels more like rubber than a magnet so I do think it will melt
     
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  17. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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     I only have a little meh weed right now so I thought - if the dabs are super concentrates and the flower still has some oomph, why separate them? Nothing to lose. So I ground 3 or 4 little nugs, no more than 0.2 and tried it in the hair straightener . 15 seconds at lowest heat didn't seem to change much. Turned heat up to halfway for 10 more seconds and put it in the fridge for maybe 5 mins and opened it out. :science: flakey, brittle :lol: Is this shatter or something?? And it vapes lovely.. I got 6 or 7 hits where I normally get 3 .. . . And the so-so weed has me way up around a 9  And there was no waste:)
     
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  18. Madri-Gal

    Madri-Gal Child Of The Revolution

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    Yay for you! Guess what your new hobby is?
     
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  19. cwheezy

    cwheezy Well-Known Member

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    So does Dynavap no longer stock regular wood bodies ?
     
  20. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    No. Regular straight bodies and stems like the middle one in the pic below are no longer offered. Wood NonaVongs are the only wood stems and bodies offered now. There may possibly be limited editions offered in the future though. Never say never...

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  21. KidFated.

    KidFated. We Don't Even Live Here..

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    Ed’s tnt has some cocobolo and Blackwood woodies! @cwheezy
     
  22. analytika

    analytika Well-Known Member

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    My first experience with the dynacoil was disappointing. 2 rounds of heating necessary to melt sugar. 3 more heatings to the click, just terps no clouds. Fourth finally had some meaningful vapor. 2 more made the session. Without an induction heater something like 7 rounds of heating would have been a non-starter. I guess the better approach is to go significantly beyond The click. I was hoping for something Lock and load point and click. Instead it seems fussy, first impression.
     
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  23. stark1

    stark1 Munch Madness March Madness Munchie Madness

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    Your concentrates should go a few more seconds past the clicks to resonate.
     
  24. VaporWare

    VaporWare Well-Known Member

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    So far what’s worked best for me is using a single flame Aomai low on the cap and going a little past the click on the first heating. I’m still getting used to it since I’be only had it for 2 days, but it can work well.
     
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  25. KidFated.

    KidFated. We Don't Even Live Here..

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    @analytika yes it takes some time to get the heat up time figured out, but if you say fuck the click and just go with what works you’ll be doing it without thinking in no time.
     

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