@Stone__Man: Glad we could settle this like gentlemen. My first post toward you was a little rough too, sorry again. I normally don't bother posting negative comments, just an off day. I've spent a lot of time perusing this forum and there have been more than a few people who say they could build a particular vape for much less than the seller's price. The response is usually something like "Go ahead and do it then, let us know how you make out." Some have actually succeeded. What really bothered me most is that you said: The EASY took me over the edge. Thanks pakalolo for communicating better than I can today. I'm interested to see how this Dragon Lite fares. I believe it works, but how well and for how long? I've only regretted one of my vape purchases and that was the sneak-a-vape, I paid $16 for it on ebay. They STILL charge $39.99 on their site. I bought it on a lark, just to review it and it was terrible. I wish I was well enough off to buy one of these Dragon Lites on a lark, but I'm not at the moment. CHEERS AND KEEP ON VAPIN' !!!