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DMT Vaporization

Discussion in 'Vaporizables' started by Costanza, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. Seek

    Seek Apprentice Daydreamer

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    Of course it will not vape all at once, but how precisely can you get 1 exact dose and not less/more. After finishing inhale it takes some time typicaly 5-30 seconds to kick in. And it needs to kick in with desired intensity, not too weakly (waste) or insanely overwhelming (brainfuck).
    After waiting and realizing it was not enough it is too late to inhale more, because of paralysis. And without waiting, there's possible overdose. So precisely weighted (mg precision) one-hit loads are key imo for efficiency and safety. I don't have enough balls to inhale from something with 1 gram in it.
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  2. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    i have never vaped dmt... i usually load a little bud in a bong and cover it.. and melt it in by not letting the flame touch... after its settled into the bud i take a breath and take a fat rip while torching it running the flame through the bowl... gets me fully blasted off in one hit... i dont like to fidget w/ hitting it when im feeling it if i can get there in one hit... conservation was never an issue and it definately doesnt make it keep you from blasting off by torching the shit out of it... im positive it wastes alot more though...vaping though, im curious how many hits does it take to get to the center of the astral plane ??? lets find out 1, 2, 3 haha ya probably 3 haha... i remember having single bong rips that i knew were gonna b world shattering because i started tripping balls while i was still milking it haa... I LOVE DMT u should too haha
    * BTW - i use DMT in a very spiritual way... this is not a recreational party drug, but since u only live once i make time to try this some time if you never have... research first though
    -right on to Rollingwood for that info...
  3. Seek

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    With a good convection vape, it takes 1 hit aswell. But the hit is super smooth and very efficient. ï think logs (with faster pull speed to reduce temp), well loaded SSV, or inversed EQ,DBV,LSV, or Cloud (or more vapes?) could do the 1 hit blastoff. With these hits tripping also begins while stil inhaling, but complete disociation - leving the body - begins usually around the exhale time.
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  4. WhenDreamAndVapeUnite

    WhenDreamAndVapeUnite Designated Hitter

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    do you guy think its possible to refine and vaporize just the raw root bark?
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    check here
    apparently the amount it would take would be damn near impossible to inhale soon enough to peak right... there might be better things to use that are more concentrated but i still don't know that they are enough

    Look up CHANGA i think it is... its DMT containing bark and a MAOI that is smoked... i have never tired this but it is supposed to be a more mellow like 30 min experience i think... i know smoking DMT w/ a MAOI(that's eaten or smoked ahead of time) is supposed to prolong effects... never tried that either... i imagine if that changa works then it could be possible... but the effects are supposed to be on the lower level

    i have only used NN-DMT
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    Seek Apprentice Daydreamer

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    I thought changa is extracted dmt infused into some herb (so salvia extracts are "salvia changas"). Bark is oo weak. One would need to vape 2 grams in one hit to get good effect. Impossible. Also a bark contains dmt salt, not free-base (it gets free-vased in extraction). Salt is hardly vaporizable.
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  7. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    it might just be extracted, i thought i read it was something that just contained it maybe not a bark?... not sure never tied it only read about it... never interested me enough... but whatever it is it apparently does something.

    on a side note i was wondering what type of DMT do u like and what purity of (NN-)DMT do u like... i'v had all types of purities, from darker waxy yellow to very dam near white, and in between... and i prefer an extraction somewhere between the two.. like the effects better, feels like more full spectrum to me... the more whit stuff has a different nature trip, feels more zappy to me.. if that makes sense... the quality of the trip is different i'd say. i get more out of a medium white/yellow extract (really light yellow)
  8. FrogBoy138

    FrogBoy138 Well-Known Member

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    I thought Ayahausca was the MAIO usually mixed with the leaves of dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
    I bet the EClipse would work better then what most have said.
  9. Seek

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    have only one batch so I can't compare. But on air dmt oxidizes to dmt-n-oxide which is active, but different. It's brown. I think this link explains the difference well, but I don't have much experience with n-oxide.
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    cool article, not framiliar w/ -n-oxide... seems like what the changa could be infused w/... i think that a 30 min pre-dose of syrian rue + a lower level trip would be similar... iv'e only read about that never used MAOI's w/ it before, but think its supposed to be effective for any ROA...
  11. JeeSee

    JeeSee Cultured Curmudgeon

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    I've done DMT upwards of a hundred times, it's probably my favourite drug other than LSD. There's nothing more intense (I'm speaking in terms of psychedelics, not trad uppers/downers) than some good old triptamine to realign your plane of reality a bit. :whoa:
  12. Egzoset

    Egzoset 1SipAToke Vaporist (v3.0)

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    Salutations JeeSee,

    Nice expression, i like that better than a mental "reset"!...

    :peace:
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  13. Seek

    Seek Apprentice Daydreamer

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    Imo "mental reset" fits more Salvia than DMT. And they're very different and even Salvia is not just some "reset".
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    For anyone who is interested this is good.

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  15. Egzoset

    Egzoset 1SipAToke Vaporist (v3.0)

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    Salutations Seek,

    I wouldn't know as i've never had the opportunity to try such entheogens, just some ancient/rare LSD experiences during college. Perhaps i'm too old for this today but i can try to understand those who do these substances: i lurk around on DMT-Nexus, actually. Very quietly and not very often at all but that's not exactly my point here.

    To realign one's plane of reality sure sounds great anyway!

    :peace:
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    The nexus - a place of so much quality information, as FC is for vapes.
    But even there majority thinks DMT tastes harsh, i think only intersection of FC and Nexus lurkers know how smooth it can be.
    It's hard to vaporize properly and easy to combust, only experienced vaporists with HQ vapes can taste that narrow sweet spot of intensely vaped dmt without that horrible acrid combustion taste.

    I can't wait to get a Cloud a give it a try. I think it is the only vape that could easily vape all the loaded dmt in one hit but without burning.
  17. Egzoset

    Egzoset 1SipAToke Vaporist (v3.0)

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    Hi again Seek,

    Yes, i most definitely share this feeling as well when i visit that excellent web site. It's just not easy for me to fit in somehow, in part probably because gurus get bored with newbies and the like, but that's me.

    :peace:
  18. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    your'e not too old to try DMT.. it sounds like you would get a lot from it.
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  19. P666R

    P666R Active Member

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    this chemical should be used with the utmost of respect and safety. i feel in every forum this is discussed to make that very clear. if the chem. is not sythned correctly bad very bad and unwanted experiences have and can occur do your research before trying. i myself, think that dmt has opened my mind in a way nothing whether it be teachings books or even god could. so be careful and have some fun!
    IMO the MFLB is great because its easy to clean after the use and after learning the curve of hitting it. it helped get some big swallows or this sacred chem
  20. treeman

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    I would like to chime in here, I strongly disagree with parts of the above statement but the "reply" button isn't there (maybe because I'm in China?), and I've forgotten code for quote tags

    I've always heard people talking about how they took some acid that wasn't made properly and it made them freak out, that IMO is bullshit.
    If acid/dmt isn't made properly it won't do a damn thing, bad trips happen on good drugs, some people don't like tripping. It's kinda' understandable.

    DMT is generally extracted through a very straightforward process (n,n-DMT is completely natural) so no synthesis is even taking place, I've heard it can be different if it contains more plant fats but I highly doubt it would just give you a bad trip simple as that. Especially as I've had very pure white crystalline DMT and much rougher yellow stuff.

    I always find everyone's so scared of DMT but I think the more you think about it it's safe as fuck, its LD-50 is astronomical and when you hit it at low doses its over before you know its begun, yes treat it with respect. Yes it can have deeply spiritual connotations but if you think you'd like it, fucken' go for it!

    Psilocybin from mushrooms contains a DMT molecule it is 4-PO-DMT, psilocin is 4-HO-DMT, yet people often embrace mushrooms full on. All these molecules have a truly powerful, great "presence" about them

    I recently got a second whip for my DBV (DMT vapage yaaaay). But gifted my last hit to a close friend who was leaving for India, when I return from my trip I shall be getting more and can't wait to try it.

    I'd generally smoke 20-25mg but can I hit hyperspace with less through vaping? I'd imagine its a more efficient process.
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  21. tepictoton

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    that is still the question...

    the other forums seem to suggest it does work and is more effective.

    I guess the trick will be to dial in on the vaporisation temp...

    Anybody tried this on a semi-hot ti-nail? (I know a really hot one will be to hot, am just thinking aloud)
  22. Buildozer

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    usually i use .25-.3 smoking.. never tried vaping it yet.. i have tried grades from pretty white to quite yellow.. never messed w/ that jungle spice tho:o.. as far as bad things happening never seen it yet.. i'm curious how did you go about it in the MFLB... did you use a PA.. i have a way i vape oil out of it using a rolling paper to protect the screen.. i always knew it could be used for other drugs but never really mention it.. never tried that method w/ anything else but its been in the back of my mind.. i would think the ti-nail would work.. just heat it up softer and experiment w/ the heat you want.. i judge the nail heat by the flame color.. the flame gets really orange just before glowing and that's where i take dabs from.. i don't like glowing.. but you can mess w/ lower temps based on visual readings like that and see if you can get something down:tup: right on :peace:

  23. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    There actually is a way for "bad" DMT to cause a bad trip.
    If it was extracted very impurely and you smoke it, the hit will be extremely harsh and can really hurt your lungs. Starting off a trip with stabbing lung pain is undoubtedly where some of the "oh god im dying" issues come from.
    :2c:
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  24. treeman

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    See, I was thinking about that, I'm sure its possible but I struggle to see it happening. I've never made any effort to ensure a lack of sodium hydroxide in my dimitri and its never been remotely bad. Even when evaporating and not freezing. Are people smoking it when it's still liquid?
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  25. Buildozer

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    i have never known that to happen personally w/ any one.. but i can imagine it not being evaporated fully and smoking it could do that.. i have to assume its a chemical thing more than anything... i have never had negative effects in general from DMT.. i have never seen a very impure extraction i guess.. but that jungle spice has been known to give people a whole nother type of trip.. i have known most people to stay away from it.
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