Divine Tribe atty's

[Vape Donkey 650]

One more for now.... do these posts need to be merged?

When I was dhgate shopping for my friend's D-020 D9 a few weeks ago, I couldn't resist the temptation to browse around and I got this little rig for myself from stevenlmz79. My first real 14mm rig and I'm lovin it so far....

It's small even next to the compact D-020. Only 8.5" tall. It's the "klein torus" rig with recycler. I love recyclers now. This little guy doesn't deliver clouds as big as D-020 or my main Dabby rig, but the clouds are super-smooth with the cake perc and recycler. It has a very low draw resistance and short vapor path and it's great for grabbing nibble and bite-sized chunks of vape. Not as good for the 10-second or button-cycled hits, because it has small vape capacity and a short path, if you're puffing for 10, 15, 20 seconds, most of that vape has been in your chest nearly the whole time! That makes me cough

Klein is dwarfed standing next to my first rig Dabby. Dabby is alot better for big chunky puffs with the 18mm, larger silicon hose, and big capacity, but isn't as good for short nibble puffs.

I should think of a name for the new one because "Klein Torus" isn't too endearing to me. Any ideas?

I can accept the smaller capacity and airflow on the klein, I had an idea of that before i bought it. The perc action is so cool though I wish I could see it when I'm using it. Can only see it through a mirror. There's also a 9" version maybe I should have bought, also 14mm, but you probably can't see the action. It needs a longer bent neck.

This should be obvious to everybody but nothing heavier than the eleaf tc40w or vtc mini can stay hanging off of the DT glass adapter.

Tried it for not even one second with the cuboid attached (got lazy) and SNAP!!!!

two more ordered...

I think you can get away with a tiny mod such as the nugget or target mini being attached to your rig though the glass DT elbow and not fall over or break. But I wouldn't compromise in having sub-standard TC vape just to use a smaller mod.

You said you have some OGB glass adapters and probably some silicon hose, maybe you can make something like this for yourself pretty easy Nick? You can skip the glass globe if you want for a regular cap, and then you can have your mod and rig stand up together proud. No hands.

I'm sorry but I don't find your porn exciting at all... all this gunk is rather gross in fact...

This is why we call hash "shit" over here, it's brown sticky and smelly no wonder...

I know my reclaim in my glass stems will be delicious, but still when I hand a dirty one to my friends most of them have the initial reaction to think it's filthy and disgusting and ask me why I don't clean them more often.

Dam....I'm sorry you find it so offensive. I hope you liked the clean donuts at least? As a donut pr0nographer, I don't aim to idealize. I'm showing it all, warts included. It's like how there is victoria's secret, and also "plus sized" models.

Everyone who has used DT donuts enough will be familiar with images like this. This is what inevitably happens. My concentrates do not consist 100% of cannabinoids and terps that will evenly boil off at low temps. (even the 90%+ thc "clears" and cyrstallines been known to leave crust, AFAIK) Some people have live-resin and the highest grades, other people have cheap waxy crumbles. Some users are gonna clean and burn off more often than me, other less often. I have friends who literally never clean their donuts! Grams and grams! Should take a pic of that for you guys. For instructive purposes, of course.

 

[fernand]

@Vape Donkey 650 the answer to your question about diluting with JMix etc first of all has to do with the amount of jMix. I use a couple of drops per ml of oil. Very little. I do still have some old OPenVape carts that for some reason I haven't rushed to finish.

I do have some Kangertech Pro 2 Minis filled with oil. Those need to be operated at low wattage to warm up the oil and start wicking. I haven't found any titanium replacement coils for those yet to try TC. Basically all this old technology is built around wicks and for our purpose they suck.

As to putting oil in something like my favorite Kayfun V4s that strikes me as incredibly wasteful. There would be like half a gram stuck on just the threading, another on the glass. Dude! I'm a precision kind of guy, I'll show you my teacups when they get here, my favorite scale reads down to 1 milligram and tops out at 20 grams. I have a 10 mm quartz nail and bubbler!

So how do you do it? use what kind of wick in the RTA and a Titanium TC coil? What RTA do you use?

Come to think of it there IS one that could work efficiently: a Goblin Mini! But you'd still need wicks to pull it up to the coils, no? It would make a cute rig, though.

As to stealth, I had stuff to do in Berkeley and I was walking with a vape. People were giving me that "good thing that's hash oil, man, if that was nicotine we'd call the cops" look. I'm not kidding. Actually it was neither ;-)

Victory this weekend: got my studio hackintosh booting in its new German Deep Silence enclosure.

 

[Vape Donkey 650]

Ok... I guess I wasn't giving you enough credit. I feel you on the wicking issue when it comes to concentrates on an RTA. It seems alot can be wasted in sticking to the glass, chimney, and possible cool spots of the cotton/coil. So many brands and designs, so many pro's and con's. What they all have in common is they aren't designed for what I'm trying to make it do, precisely.

I've been using the vaporesso cCell coils, 0.2 ohm Ni200 for TC in my little eleaf MELO III tanks. The tanks came with my picos, and I was getting frustrated with my runny co2 oils that I pre-load on my donuts always leaking through, so I thought tank!

These ceramic coils work great with co2 oil, super tasty and convenient! 25w @430F makes big tasty clouds. It can be pushed further as far as watts, temp, and air flow, but I'm good at those settings. It looks like regular juice in the tank. My problem has been leakage. 3 MELO tanks, 2 of them leaked out on me. A very slow leak, but since I give it time by taking weeks to vape a G, all the co2 oil apparently seeped through the bottom of the coil into the adjustable-airflow base where the coil screws into and has the 510 pin at the bottom. Not a total waste, because I scraped and "reclaimed" this good oil, but frustrating as hell.

Now I got some cubis pro tanks on the way because I like how their coils are top-mounted, bottom-feeding, with a glass cup at the bottom. Leak free? I hope....

vape shopping...and I'm finding all this new joyetech / eleaf stuff! Could this be the mini-mini mod we've all been waiting for?

http://www.joyetech.com/product/evic-basic-cubis-pro-mini/

It says TC, TCR, 1-40w. Almost exact same small size as the artery nugget mod. Firmware upgradeable. The brand we all know and love? But can we set the watts in TC mode? Don't know yet gotta write em. This mod is supposed to come out later this month. Guess who wants one?

They're also making a 2-cell version of the evic, I guess the ol' cuboid is made obsolete now. I'm not as interested in this but I'm sure it will be fine for those who still want to change 2 18650s. Can work with 1 like the istick 100w that OF loves to use as stash space.

http://www.joyetech.com/product/evic-vtc-dual-ultimo/

I literally just ordered some of the older (but still pretty new?) CUBIS pro 4ml tanks and their RBAs to try to find ceramic wicks to put in them....then this now!

2ml tank for the CUBIS! I want! it's not out yet, but it will be better than the 4ml for putting some co2 oil inside and not having as much wasted.

I'm too new for this stuff. At least my runny concentrate vaping world looks to improve very soon. Just for the co2's. This kinda stuff is great, but i still give DT an edge on vape quality with co2 oil. And of course, I can't just drop a whole, undiluted gram of shatter into a tank.

Eleaf isn't sitting on their hands either. Snazzy new double-internal cell TC mod. Looks cool but I'll probably pass. I really can't get over their crappy OLED displays, and I'm not in the market for larger mods at the moment.

http://www.eleafworld.com/ipower/

And a small one similar to the new mini evic. Which one lets us set power in TC mode?

http://www.eleafworld.com/istick-power-nano-kit/

And a funky shape one like the wismec presa for the steven types, but it has a conventional button.

http://www.eleafworld.com/aster-2/

They even made a new version of the pico that can take a 26650 or a 18650 cell. I mostly like how they made the button bigger, which was one of the main weaknesses on the first pico.

http://www.eleafworld.com/istick-pico-mega-kit/

I'm just literally now finding out all this stuff....this is what happens when you go vape shopping and see "other items you may be interested" at the bottom of the page....and one link leads to another!!!

As to stealth, I had stuff to do in Berkeley and I was walking with a vape. People were giving me that "good thing that's hash oil, man, if that was nicotine we'd call the cops" look. I'm not kidding. Actually it was neither ;-)

Victory this weekend: got my studio hackintosh booting in its new German Deep Silence enclosure.

What's that? People are actually happy you're kush vaping and not tobac-vaping? Do you mean like indoors? If it was outdoors what does it matter? In berkeley, I can totally see that happening....

 

[Bad Ocelot]

Ha, I had a friend from California that said he'd catch the stink eye walking down the sidewalk with a cigarette, but no one ever gave anyone crap for flagrantly smoking weed. Gotta love the left coast!

 

[insideoutman]

finishing up that blue dream... =D

 

[DrNick420]

A single 26650 powered VTC? damn..... so tempting.

@Vape Donkey 650 It looks like DT base - little piece of tube - glass dome - more tube?

I should go buy some more tubing but I have actually just forced a SSV hose onto the mouthpiece of a DT 2.5 top and have been having success with that as well.

 

[fernand]

@Bad Ocelot Fer shure! In Berkeley they passed an ordinance that bans smoking tobacco outdoors within 30 ft of a residence or business. I forget the exact distance, but rest assured that even if you stand in the middle of the roadway you're close enough to a residence or business to get ticketed or arrested, or worse, as it could always "escalate". You know those Newport addicts.

 

[Vape Donkey 650]

A single 26650 powered VTC? damn..... so tempting.

Actually it's the "istick pico mega" that can take a 26650 now. The bigger cell doesn't make much difference to me, it can take me weeks or months to drain an 18650 down with the way I spread my vaping over so many mods. But I do like the larger button, and it looks like the 'mega pico' has a larger screen over the non-mega? Can't be sure by the pics.

The screen and button are the 2 main weaknesses on the pico IMO. I favor my VTCs and cubes more, but when I already had all of them, why by more of the same? The pico is still good for a more stout, round, in-your-palm feel kind of vape. Probably similar to the tesla nano with a different button.

But these latest round of TC mods look promising. I read a quick review of the evic basic here and they speculated there was a rush to push this wave of new models out the door before those evil new FDA regulations come into effect?

It appears to say you can set 1-40w in "VT" (TC?) mode but not sure yet....

@Vape Donkey 650 It looks like DT base - little piece of tube - glass dome - more tube?

I should go buy some more tubing but I have actually just forced a SSV hose onto the mouthpiece of a DT 2.5 top and have been having success with that as well.

Yea... 1/2" silicon hose strip 1" long to glue the skull glass globe to the base. If you got a 1/4" or 5/16" hose going from your 2.5 cap to your rig, you're doing essentially the same thing, just with less vape-viewing. There's plenty of ways to match DT to glass and water bubbles, so if anyone wants to do it, they should figure it out! Don't deprive yourself!

It would be nice if it were easier. I got a big order of custom glass adapters from OGB on the way now that I hope will clean up my DT-to-rig connections.

Even better, I just sent some sketches to Mike @ OGB for a large glass globe adapter that will fit right over the 2.5 base with o-rings and have an 18mm male adapter on top, to make my silicon-on-glass dab elbows much more elegant and secure, without all the extra adapters!

This will be my dab dream come true if he can make this Then I'll have it and we'll have v3.0 donuts and it will be obsolete right away! haha. then I'll ask him to make me a new one

finishing up that blue dream... =D

yea keep the prawns flowin... clean donuts so no one gets grossed out?

One more from me. Some of my other donuts are filthier at the moment. You were finishing some blue dream shatters around the same time as me?

My white mini-cube had it's donut cleaned and started anew with some 'maui dawg' shatter.

2nd reload on a clean donut. Does that little crust make it not count as clean? This is a smaller load for me maybe 20-25mm but right in the bullseye. I'll vape most of it in 2 puffs.

fernand, you really have a scale that can measure down to 1mg....and you measure out your dabs when loading your donut?

 

[fernand]

Sure, a scale down to 1 mg is useful, yes, but not to measure dabs.

The GEMINI-20 is a pretty good scale for $25, can resolve a milligram if you use it carefully.

https://www.amazon.com/American-Wei...64136&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=gemini+20+scale

I did want to know initially how much goes where, not down to the milligram.

 

[insideoutman]

yea keep the prawns flowin... clean donuts so no one gets grossed out?

Well technically this is the last of the blue dream

 

[fernand]

BTW, one thing about RTAs and carts. Since there's air in the top of the tank, if it's stored or carried right side up, the air in the top section expands whenever it heats up from surrounding temp or body heat, and it will push on the oil in the bottom. It's inevitable: stuff will seep and leak out the 510 connector. Same thing with erl as with e-liquid. People complain about a specific model but don't mention how they store and carry it.

If these devices are stored/carried upside down or on their side, they very seldom leak.

Wow, today's decision by the Dee Ee Aye, truly ridiculous to keep cann as a sched I. I was kinda hoping they wouldn't do the same old BS. There's a new director at NORML, they can use all donations.

 

[fernand]

Just had another magnet fail on the eVic VTC- Mini. The bottom magnet came out of its nest and stuck to the lid's magnet. Superglue to the rescue, works fine. Important to mark the position that faces up and in which direction. Glue that sucker in wrong and you'll be wondering what's happening. I don't consider it much of a production fault. These magnets are so strong they probably didn't quite expect it. It's good to get that super glue tube out now and then and glue something anyway, unplug the little neck channel, so it won't all freeze up.

 

[Vape Donkey 650]

Wow, today's decision by the Dee Ee Aye, truly ridiculous to keep cann as a sched I. I was kinda hoping they wouldn't do the same old BS. There's a new director at NORML, they can use all donations.

Disappointing, yes. But surprising? No, not at all. I wouldn't expect anything more from them. Old drug warriors and their fallacious ideologies will die slowly, just like racism and xenophobia, with the older generation, hopefully?

It would take a President Gary Johnson, (or some like-minded person, not the other 2 main people) appointing a new department head to that agency, and several other federal agencies probably, for a decision to be made to properly schedule and regulate kush based on science and reason. So don't hold your breath 3xhale....

But I'm getting too tangential...where's my chinese opium pipe?

Let me steer us back to something slightly more related to DT.....

I got my order of custom glass from OGB, and some of the pieces are for my 'SonG' adapters. These new 18mm male/male glass elbows have allowed me to eliminate my remaining copper elbows. They work, but they are a bit larger and heavier than I was expecting. Also added some more height to the elbow. It's git'n er dun, but I'm not sure that I won't make any other final tweaks on these elbow / adapters.....

glass, glass, glass, glass..... glass........

 

[fernand]

Just got my mouse tea set.
Yo, @Vape Donkey 650 still
think it's just for laughs? The 3 items are different
approaches to the issue. That ceramic material is
amazingly thermally conductive. Testing so far
shows the temp in the dish is very close to the temp
of the donut itself. Any guesses as to what next?

 

[fernand]

@Vape Donkey 650 I think it's unfortunate that the very people who could show we aren't all a bunch of lazy stoners, are least willing/able to speak up, for fear of losing jobs etc. A big problem stems from the anxiety of the straights about how America would go down the tubes if "everybody" was doin' dope. Know what I'm sayin? Truth of course is that it doesn't work that way. But try explaining that to law and order types, or folks whose only exposure is watching the beer and weed morons down the street!

 

[fernand]

No guesses? How about something like this?

This is a serious machine. The heating donut is kept clean as it brings the little pan to temp, and holds it there. The button can be held down, occasionally letting it go to catch a new 10 second cycle. But nothing is burning, it's just simmering, fully turning to vapor. The air rushes over the evaporating oil, creating a vortex that cools it. The pan can be pre-loaded (and torched clean) outside the donut. We purists can keep our strains perfectly separated.

For the Scotts among us, you thought'yer doughnut splash waz economical? F'get'abbadit!

This here is 10 mg of supermelt assayed at 80% THC, one toke in. The second toke'll finish it.

That's yielding two bonafide 5 mg tokes, i.e. 4 mg THC each. For me that's Perfect, makes'r day a wee bit sharper, the nagging pain down my leg is better. The second toke retains more of the higher-temp-boiling actives, and would be best at bedtime. Hey @Vape Donkey 650 see, a milligram scale is a useful thing. Because by knowing this, we can picture this: 100 such BBs in a gram.

Fer shure! that was a thirty buck gram o' wax. So that's thirty cents a whack. Won't have to go selling my bod to sco' no mo' !

Still, inhaling steam off a teakettle spout isn't cool, and neither is sucking' hot dab vapor.
The little water tool's a jewel!

Note the vitamins in the background. This is in relation to PR for the election, in which cannocentric ballot measures will be voted upon. The vitamins say "healthy". The papers in the background imply at least GED level literacy. The whole rustic wood and lighting convey a sense of down-home and "your grandfather's desk". Grand'dad used toothpicks. Before prohibition, global warming and GMOs, for thousands of years, all the old timers, the dads, and the monks and the pharaohs even, averted risky back surgery by vaping hemp flower oil.

This advanced device itself of course was found by hippies at Area 51 or BurningMan.

 

[Vape Donkey 650]

This here is 10 mg of supermelt assayed at 80% THC, one toke in. The second toke'll finish it.

That's yielding two bonafide 5 mg tokes, i.e. 4 mg THC each. For me that's Perfect, makes'r day a wee bit sharper, the nagging pain down my leg is better. The second toke retains more of the higher-temp-boiling actives, and would be best at bedtime. Hey @Vape Donkey 650 see, a milligram scale is a useful thing. Because by knowing this, we can picture this: 100 such BBs in a gram.

Fer shure! that was a thirty buck gram o' wax. So that's thirty cents a whack. Won't have to go selling my bod to sco' no mo' !

Nice... So you're putting the little glass disc with the holes underneath the mouse tea cup, in the middle, between the donut and this?

Or is the ceramic mouse cup sitting right on top of the donut? Either way looks like it could be ideal for keeping the donut clean, reloading, and switching between strains easily without having to have a dozen mods like me!

So the vape experience with these little parts is just as good as with the naked donut? You gotta share where you got this with us now so we can try it out.....

Still, inhaling steam off a teakettle spout isn't cool, and neither is sucking' hot dab vapor.
The little water tool's a jewel!

Note the vitamins in the background. This is in relation to PR for the election, in which cannocentric ballot measures will be voted upon. The vitamins say "healthy". The papers in the background imply at least GED level literacy. The whole rustic wood and lighting convey a sense of down-home and "your grandfather's desk". Grand'dad used toothpicks. Before prohibition, global warming and GMOs, for thousands of years, all the old timers, the dads, and the monks and the pharaohs even, averted risky back surgery by vaping hemp flower oil.

This advanced device itself of course was found by hippies at Area 51, and will be called The Alien Nukular Bong on the front page of the Enquirer.

What do you got goin on here....staging artsy vape-lifestyle pics now are we? That's what social medias are for...gotta keep your unique fernand-style prose for the caption on the repost



No other ideas for my leaky RTA coils fern?

 

[fernand]

The glass disk/button works by itself for smaller dabs. They are easy to find, you want about 6-7 mm diameter and the thicker the better. The little cups are another matter, they are not easy to find or cheap. I just got a couple, and I'm in testing mode at the moment.

On the RTA issue, my main solution was keeping them on their side. I have a stash of carts and KangerTech ProTank Mini RTAs that have had oil in them for months lying on their side, pull one up, warm it at a watt or two for a minute, then turn up to say 5 watts, take a few tokes, put it back on its side. And they don't leak.

 

[matthend]

Those cups really got me curious. Found these after a bit of googling

 

[papapotbelly]

Those cups really got me curious. Found these after a bit of googling

Ordered!

If they fit, I'm thinking about going crazy and trying sapphire ones...

http://www.advaluetech.com/products/sapphire/polycrystalline-sapphire-sample-pans

 

[looney2nz]

@Vape Donkey 650 I think it's unfortunate that the very people who could show we aren't all a bunch of lazy stoners, are least willing/able to speak up, for fear of losing jobs etc. A big problem stems from the anxiety of the straights about how America would go down the tubes if "everybody" was doin' dope. Know what I'm sayin? Truth of course is that it doesn't work that way. But try explaining that to law and order types, or folks whose only exposure is watching the beer and weed morons down the street!

lol... that's why you rarely see employment drug testing mentioned in Silicon Valley.
A NOTORIOUS bunch of non-achievers

 

[fernand]

@matthend yes, and there's an American vendor. They are used in analytical chem, they sell them for ~ $13 ea. Polycrystalline Sapphire and Alumina are the same thing.

The perfect size for my eBay deep bowl atomizer is 4 mm, the diameter 6-7 mm.

If used in the shallow bowl, airflow pulls it up, so either use the shallower alumina cups or use a screen or something to retain the cup in the atomizer well.

It looks like Matt's deep bowl unit has the air holes deeper down than on mine. That I haven't tested. Suggested serving:

The cup material is Alumina, it's fireproof. The cups can be torched back to a 100% white so quickly that it's not even necessary to keep a lot of them for different strains.

So far this is working very well. By regulating temp it's very practical now to vape just the fractions you want, say below 380 deg F for pep or turn it up to pick up the higher temp downer stuff. I mean it really works now. Temp control, obviously. But also the diffusion of heat by the alumina cup reduces hot spots.

Here the first pass has left the fractions I don't want. At that temp setting you can push the button all you want, it will stay like that.

After a few seconds with a torch, the cup is back to snow white.

Using a ceramic-tipped tweezer for handling the fragile cup, it should last a long time.

The residue inside the well is from before, i.e. from putting oil directly on the donut. It's inevitable that some condensation will take place along the path, but I'm hoping that with a little care the atomizer can stay pretty clean. Given Dante's Inferno lurking beneath the donut well (as documented by @OF et al.), that would be a real bonus.

 

[Steven]

@matthend yes, the right size for Matt's deep well atomizer is 4 mm, the diameter 6-7 mm. There's an American vendor, they are used in analytical chem, they sell them for ~ $13 ea. Polycrystalline Sapphire and Alumina are the same thing.

If used in the shallow well, airflow pulls it up, so either use the shallower units or use a screen or something to retain the cup in the atomizer well. Suggested serving:

The material is Alumina, it's fireproof. The cups can be torched back to a 100% white so quickly that it's not even necessary to keep a lot of them for different strains.

So far this is working very well. By regulating temp it's very practical now to vape just the fractions you want, say below 380 deg F for pep or turn it up to pick up the higher temp downer stuff. I mean it really works now. Temp control, obviously. But also the diffusion of heat by the alumina cup reduces hot spots.

Here the first pass has left the fractions I don't want. At that temp setting you can push the button all you want, it will stay like that.

After a few seconds with a torch, the cup is back to snow white.

Using a ceramic-tipped tweezer for handling the fragile cup, it should last a long time.

The residue inside the well is from before, i.e. from putting oil directly on the donut. It's inevitable that some condensation will take place along the path, but I'm hoping that with these dimensions and with the way air is picked up above the cup itself, with a little care the atomizer can stay pretty clean. Given Dante's Inferno lurking beneath the cup itself (as documented by @OF et al.), that would be a real bonus.

It's pretty cool what u came up with. But source vapes kinda beat u to the punch on this one. U basically turned your dt atty into source vape's portable enail. Their enail atomizers are basically a dt donut under a ceramic cup, titanium cup, or a quartz cup.

 

[OF]

The GEMINI-20 is a pretty good scale for $25, can resolve a milligram if you use it carefully.

https://www.amazon.com/American-Wei...64136&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=gemini+20+scale

I did want to know initially how much goes where, not down to the milligram.

I considered that one, being happy with other American Weigh brand scales, but decided on this instead:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESGK8WW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I wanted the smaller format. I'm very happy with it. Despite appearances it has real switches under the membrane (I hate those horrid membrane switches that always seem to get 'dicey' in the ones used most...), which was a plus as well. It also is good at tiny 'tare' differences. Put fire up the scale with your stash on it (or 'zero' again) and you can accurately read a few mg of stuff removed. Some scales loose this in their 'zero drift compensation', you can pick a bit out at a time and still read zero but when you put it back in a lump it reports a positive weight? Not cool.

But I agree, being able to read a mg at a time is important, it's always good to have more precision on tap in measurements than you need. And 20 gram range beats 10 for sure. I got tired of 'tricking' my 10 gram one into dealing with 15 gram or so weights.

OF

 

[fernand]

@OF the worst thing about all these scales is the un-defeatable auto-off. Just when you got everything equalized, you turn to look at the gorilla who entered the room, and by the time you get back to the scale it's turned itself off. There's one that doesn't, but I don't think it can resolve milligrams.

@Steven not exactly nookular physics to put a pan on the stove,
a lot more things are bound to be "discovered" as we keep at it.
I like the way a separate ceramic cup can be filled and cleaned off-line.