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@Vape Donkey 650 Love the poster.... was my avatar for a little while...

MY cuboid is 2 days late because of a USPS delay which has resulted in no delivered mail for the last 2 days. Also stuck in that delay is my 4 new 2.7's and water adapter....

When the cuboid gets in and i can limit not just one variable at a time I will be happy to try out the 200f/scrape down tech.

I might have to try this out if I ever break my glass adapter :)

I think you're gonna love your DT glass adapter when you start using it, Nick. It's simple and effective, has a very short path from the donut to your rig and decent airflow. You just likely will have to remove it from your rig when not using it, not a big deal.

If you're still vaping with the istick or something VW and you want to try the low-temp scrape thing, you can just set to 2-3w, hold the button for a few seconds at a time. This should make the reclaim and crust sizzle just enough to loosen it up enough to work with it. At 200F, the watts is usually fluttering between 0.1-3w to hold that low temp. I go up to 220-230F to help loosen a crusty donut for scraping, but I should probably just heat clean them for real.

When warm-scraping, just don't get too overzealous and press too hard to short out the wire leads. Some donuts will take alot more contact than others. Warm-scraping is no panacea, but more of a lazy-man's half-assed procrastination cleaning. Could be half-way for appearances, because I can't think of a way to scrape the crust underneath the donut that you can't see (don't think it would be safe too :suspicious: )

@Vape Donkey 650 Your gear is great. So the atomizer has a 16mm ID silicone tubing right off the "bottom". Since you then later pass through the smaller tubing, is that any different in flow rate from directly going into the smaller tubing, e.g. like this?



In place of the black ceramic 2.5 style top, I would prefer a Pyrex top, nice to "see" the action.

Thanks. One of Matt's pyrex 2.5 caps + a silicon hose is the easiest way to get a peek at your vape going into a rig while also letting you keep the mod and donut + rig connected and sitting that way at rest, unlike the DT glass adapter. If you wanted to make that setup less "loopy" you could use a glass 90* elbow with a 14mm / F joint.

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I just recently found oregon glass blowers and I'm most likely gonna order a few elbows and adapters to try different setups on my DT rig as well as my flower vapes. :nod:

Regarding the diameters and restrictions, for this 1/4" hose elbow I made for my friend, I think you're not entirely seeing how the DT base is connected. The 1/2" (ID) silicon hose, a 1" strip, which attaches the base to the "skull" glass globe doesn't really have vape passing through it. It acts as a rigid connecting strip where the top of the DT base can directly touch the glass of the skull. Not really a viaduct in this part.

The part of the base that would have a connector/globe slip over it is 16mm, but the ceramic cup with the donut is only 7mm in diameter.

The outside diameter of the skull's bottom entry is almost exactly 16mm, very close to the top of the base. (~12.5mm ID for the skull, no restriction yet)

The 1/2" (ID) hose is just under 13mm, but stretches enough to join the 2 parts.

Top of the skull is 10mm / 12mm, ID/OD, a minor restriction.

The same 1/2" silicon hose connects the top of the skull to the 18mm glass elbow.

This particular elbow then bends and reduces to 14mm for the 1/4" hose. About 9mm inside the skinny hose, a little restrictive. My 18mm male / male adapters (not pictured here) are about 12mm ID, they bend smoothly, and take the larger hose. These are better.

Last part on this smaller setup is the arizer elbow. The "nipple" that comes out the side on these elbows is the biggest restriction. I have a few and they vary between a 4-6mm ID orifice. :( (thick rim on the glass) This is the biggest chokepoint on this setup but it still works pretty well. Oregon glass or someone else can give you a nice compact elbow like this but with a larger orifice on the nipple that can still accept a 1/4" hose.

This was supposed to be on my last post but was somehow omitted

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What kind of tubing is this generally? Something food grade? I have some fat Tygon made for drink machines that I use in my PC.

This is some medical-grade (or food grade, i forgets :shrug:) silicon from the DDave mod kit for Arizer. It's just some silicon hose that is rated to 400F, I believe. You can ask DDave for the exact details if you want. There's a whole whip tubing thread over here that has alot of good info on the topic. Many places to buy from, and a few good candidates for whip / hose materials, such as PTFE.Tygon is also mentioned there. If it's temp rated to your application, and doesn't off-gass or degrade or dissolve with acidic thc vapor passing through it, it could probably work well.

I think the flexibility and friction of the tubing are 2 of the main factors for connecting a rig to DT donut bases. PVC hose seems ideal for these properties, but is questionable for it's off-gassing and breaking down. Pick-ups again to OF for tipping me off to these hazards ;)

so on my sd trip i had to hit the dt 2.7 dry. i never use it dry but i needed stealth. Anyway, with this i noticed the "one flake goes for days" effect. The airlfow in the dt 2.7 is so great that if hit comfortably, i believe it is enough to cool down the donut and hinder its performance. im used to water tools, so that naturally restricts some airlfow, and i do some manual restrictions with my mouth and breath as well on top of that. I noticed i could not finish my same loads in 1 long chained hit and this only happens when i was using it dry in sd. Playing around with it, the culprit for me is related to airflow because i use the same atty at home with a water tool and i finish my loads as usual. dont get me wrong, the DT 2.7 is definitely a conserver, but for a bb load to last so many hits for me is unheard of

I'd say 95-97% of my DT vaping is on some sort of water tool. My lung capacity is a fraction of yours, but I tend to take smaller puffs when using a plain mouthpiece also. Maybe only 3-4 seconds on a fresh load, I can only take a 8-10 second puff on the mouthpiece if the load is emptying. At least for me, almost the whole time duration of the hit is making vape. @ 25w TC, there's no waiting. I see what you say about the less restriction on the bare mouthpiece.... I tend to draw a little more moderate / light on the mouthpiece than on my rigs, but I'm almost always satisfied with the cloud I blow out. :)

@fernand Sourcevapes came out with a new enail line that actually uses the dt donut with either a glass, ceramic, or titanium cup that sits on top of the donut. sounds very similar to what you are doing. i didnt like it too much because you need to superheat the donut to get decent vapor. do you have the same problem with your set up? not sure if it is for you because i think you like your stuff very low heat

Hmmm... I've been wanting for someone to compare DT donuts to the competition from source, but IDK if we're not supposed to directly compare competing product in one product's thread, or if we just hadn't have anyone here try both of them out? :huh:
 
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DrNick420

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I have some OGB glass whip adapters just like that. I wonder if I can rig something together... I will post if I get anything together that works :)

Anybody done bubble hash in a DT or is that a no no?

edit: Because I am so impressed with the DT's, does anyone have experience with their dry herb atty's? Intrigued by them as a super stealth sort of vape. I have two Solos and love them for my green weed but this could be a nice stealth thing.
 
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DrNick420

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I think I was drying out my throat too much by taking too many dry DT rips. I would use it all day long.

Well today my 3 new 2.7's and glass adapter showed up and all day I've been using the DT thru my rigs. Well done DT! I think next time i place an order i will have to get some more adapters for backups because this is invaluable.
 

Bad Ocelot

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Are you guys aware of any vertical water pieces that will fit over the DT base a la W9 tech's nibbler or vubblers from Source or Vaped? Or any glass pieces that will fit on the base? I've broken like half a dozen of the ones from DT, ha.

The 2.7 & 2.5 are my daily drivers still :tup: and I usually don't use it so frequently that I get a dry or sore throat, but a water tool would still be nice.

Sidenote: has anyone tried their enail? Been considering one and there's is very reasonably priced. I looked for a thread on it but didn't see one.
 

Steven

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Are you guys aware of any vertical water pieces that will fit over the DT base a la W9 tech's nibbler or vubblers from Source or Vaped? Or any glass pieces that will fit on the base? I've broken like half a dozen of the ones from DT, ha.

The 2.7 & 2.5 are my daily drivers still :tup: and I usually don't use it so frequently that I get a dry or sore throat, but a water tool would still be nice.

Sidenote: has anyone tried their enail? Been considering one and there's is very reasonably priced. I looked for a thread on it but didn't see one.
http://m.dhgate.com/store/14220236#st-navigation-storehome-itemnew

Here is a link to the store on dhgate that has trustworthy glass. He makes like 4 Hydratubes that can all be adapted to the 2.7 cap with just a silicon band. There is also a pinnacle pro water tool that's a bit smaller on the same store that will adapt to the 2.5 cap with a silicon band. Trust me, get a hydratube from the sunshine store and u will thank me later. I haven't put my hands on the w9tech glass, but as for the other small generic bubblers for vape pens, those can be adapted to the 2.5 cap with some silicon. The dt 2.5 & 2.7 can be paired with many, many types of bubblers. I never usually take dry hits
 
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jpdnkstr

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Sidenote: has anyone tried their enail? Been considering one and there's is very reasonably priced. I looked for a thread on it but didn't see one.[/QUOTE]
I have had one for a while with no issues, same pin configuration as d nail, and many others, I run a flat and 20mm coil.
 

DrNick420

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Just curious who here rocks a RX200, gearbest flash sale got one for 37 shipped, felt better about that than ebay where some looked pretty sketchy...

anyway i read some posts on ecig forums saying the tc mode on rx200 is not as nice as that of the joyetechs. is this true?

i got another friend interested in DT but now i tell them to just buy the atty and go find a vtc mini.
 

DrNick420

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Note: Solved, seemingly. Cleaning the threads with iso soaked paper towel was more effective than iso dipped Q tip. got a lot more gunk off. howver that one old dirty atty (the one I caused to leak several times) now shows a resistance of barely over 1 ohm. anything to worry about?


Can anyone help me with a weird issue?

Brought my old (the dirty one) to a friends house last night so he could try it. Of course it eventaully got overloaded and I had the suspicioun it might start leaking so i detached t and cleanedthe threads with ISO when I took it home.

Plugged it back into my Cuboid.... shows new col or same coil, so i pick new coil, and says Atomizer Short!!!!

I plug it into my eleaf TC40W and it fires fine???

What's the big mystery here? Shold i toss that one bottom half?

Cleared the holes on a few pulses of 12w and back to working normal althoug the resistance is about 0.9 where its usually 0.7. Anything to worry about?
 
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Steven

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Note: Solved, seemingly. Cleaning the threads with iso soaked paper towel was more effective than iso dipped Q tip. got a lot more gunk off. howver that one old dirty atty (the one I caused to leak several times) now shows a resistance of barely over 1 ohm. anything to worry about?


Can anyone help me with a weird issue?

Brought my old (the dirty one) to a friends house last night so he could try it. Of course it eventaully got overloaded and I had the suspicioun it might start leaking so i detached t and cleanedthe threads with ISO when I took it home.

Plugged it back into my Cuboid.... shows new col or same coil, so i pick new coil, and says Atomizer Short!!!!

I plug it into my eleaf TC40W and it fires fine???

What's the big mystery here? Shold i toss that one bottom half?

Cleared the holes on a few pulses of 12w and back to working normal althoug the resistance is about 0.9 where its usually 0.7. Anything to worry about?
Nothing really to worry about exactly but there could be a few things that are going on. Your atty sounds like it may have lost a bit of contact in the leads,which will cause the resistance to rise. Rough swiping for cleaning may result in this as well. I always take a mental note of where the inner air holes are positioned in relation to the outer air holes. This way, I will be aware if any rough handling will cause the cup to rotate away from its original position. Carefully returning it to its original position often times restores the resistance. If that's is not the case, your donut may be cracked or degraded to a degree. Try doing a thorough cleaning and then an iso bath to see if that helps any as well. Other than that, at 1 ohms, it should still fire in tc, so u might be good for a little bit
 

fernand

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@insideoutman nice pron!

Had a great Sunday at the Garlic Festival. That's an event where the whole town of Gilroy CA gets in the spirit of its garlic harvest.

But all I could think of was Joyetech, wow. My stash of carts includes those disposable 2 ohm 510 types filled with oil/wax thinned with EJMix. The problem is that they must be operated gently or you burn the oil/wick and thereafter they taste like road-kill on the way to the dump.

Before TC, all the mods bottomed out at 5 watts or more in VW mode. Simple regulators. And all the little 510 carts burned up at 5 watts. Unfortunate meeting of specs. So you had to play a skilled feathering button concerto to avoid the burn.

But NOW on the eVic VTC mini, I can just run carts at 1.5 - 2.0 - 3.0 watts and they cook perfectly fine. Good for the garlic Festival. And other places. Even the old OPen Vape carts are OK on the new TC Joyetechs.

I Bear Witness. eVic VTC mini and related, absolutely first class versatile devices, for any kind of vape.

p.s. Nobody can believe they actually sell Garlic flavored ice cream at the Garlic Festival. But once you've tried the garlic fries, with a texture/taste for which there's no word in the English language, you're unlikely to taste the ice cream. I've put it off for years.
 

Bad Ocelot

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http://m.dhgate.com/store/14220236#st-navigation-storehome-itemnew

Here is a link to the store on dhgate that has trustworthy glass. He makes like 4 Hydratubes that can all be adapted to the 2.7 cap with just a silicon band. There is also a pinnacle pro water tool that's a bit smaller on the same store that will adapt to the 2.5 cap with a silicon band. Trust me, get a hydratube from the sunshine store and u will thank me later. I haven't put my hands on the w9tech glass, but as for the other small generic bubblers for vape pens, those can be adapted to the 2.5 cap with some silicon. The dt 2.5 & 2.7 can be paired with many, many types of bubblers. I never usually take dry hits

Thanks a bunch! will probably pick one up soon. What type of silicon band do you use?

I have had one for a while with no issues, same pin configuration as d nail, and many others, I run a flat and 20mm coil.

Thanks, good to know!
 

Steven

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Thanks a bunch! will probably pick one up soon. What type of silicon band do you use?



Thanks, good to know!

U can get silicon tubing and cut it but if ur like me and have a lot of vape junk, I cut the upper thicker portion into bands
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Just Note that these are a bit hard to slip onto the 2.7 cap at first but it is definitely doable
 

Bad Ocelot

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Just curious who here rocks a RX200, gearbest flash sale got one for 37 shipped, felt better about that than ebay where some looked pretty sketchy...

anyway i read some posts on ecig forums saying the tc mode on rx200 is not as nice as that of the joyetechs. is this true?

i got another friend interested in DT but now i tell them to just buy the atty and go find a vtc mini.

I've had some issue with the TC mode on my RX200 as well. Doesn't seem to work as well as the eleaf pico (I use both for nicotine juice) despite having pretty much identical interfaces. I'd assumed it was the same chip set but it appears something is different. Still using the Tesla Nano 60w with my DT's.
 

DrNick420

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I've had some issue with the TC mode on my RX200 as well. Doesn't seem to work as well as the eleaf pico (I use both for nicotine juice) despite having pretty much identical interfaces. I'd assumed it was the same chip set but it appears something is different. Still using the Tesla Nano 60w with my DT's.


Thanks for the info!

This should be obvious to everybody but nothing heavier than the eleaf tc40w or vtc mini can stay hanging off of the DT glass adapter.

Tried it for not even one second with the cuboid attached (got lazy) and SNAP!!!!

two more ordered...
 

DrNick420

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My RX200 from gearbest shipped :) I know it's not the best on TC but excited to try it regardless.

One cool thing about gearbest: they actually send you a photo of your package before it gets mailed?!?!?!? who else in the world does that?! that is AWESOME customer service to me. Lets hope it gets here in one piece and fully authentic according to Wismec.

It should be obvious to everyone but don't let a heavy mod like the Cuboid hang off of the glass adapter even a tiny bit!!!!

My VTC Mini showed up today (amazing device! should have bought 2 of these not 2 cuboids maybe!) which seems light enough to let it hang off the glass adapter and more importantly is an impressive and well designed device.

I would not be surprised if I keep the VTC Mini, get another, sell a cuboid and keep the RX200. Well I need to use the RX200 first to know if I like it.

@Vape Donkey 650 Your low wattage + scraping off the gunk trick worked real well bro. Good advice.

@Steven Which one do you have dude? And do the silicon rings that come with the DT's enough to keep them attached?
 

Hoosier

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My RX200 from gearbest shipped :) I know it's not the best on TC but excited to try it regardless.

One cool thing about gearbest: they actually send you a photo of your package before it gets mailed?!?!?!? who else in the world does that?! that is AWESOME customer service to me. Lets hope it gets here in one piece and fully authentic according to Wismec.

It should be obvious to everyone but don't let a heavy mod like the Cuboid hang off of the glass adapter even a tiny bit!!!!

My VTC Mini showed up today (amazing device! should have bought 2 of these not 2 cuboids maybe!) which seems light enough to let it hang off the glass adapter and more importantly is an impressive and well designed device.

I would not be surprised if I keep the VTC Mini, get another, sell a cuboid and keep the RX200. Well I need to use the RX200 first to know if I like it.

@Vape Donkey 650 Your low wattage + scraping off the gunk trick worked real well bro. Good advice.

@Steven Which one do you have dude? And do the silicon rings that come with the DT's enough to keep them attached?

As someone that buys way too many rc toys from gearbest, I can tell you that customer service is not their strong suit. The picture is their attempt at mitigating claims of non- delivered packages.
 

DrNick420

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As someone that buys way too many rc toys from gearbest, I can tell you that customer service is not their strong suit. The picture is their attempt at mitigating claims of non- delivered packages.
Damn!!! good to know... hope mine makes it here safe :(
 
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Steven

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My RX200 from gearbest shipped :) I know it's not the best on TC but excited to try it regardless.

One cool thing about gearbest: they actually send you a photo of your package before it gets mailed?!?!?!? who else in the world does that?! that is AWESOME customer service to me. Lets hope it gets here in one piece and fully authentic according to Wismec.

It should be obvious to everyone but don't let a heavy mod like the Cuboid hang off of the glass adapter even a tiny bit!!!!

My VTC Mini showed up today (amazing device! should have bought 2 of these not 2 cuboids maybe!) which seems light enough to let it hang off the glass adapter and more importantly is an impressive and well designed device.

I would not be surprised if I keep the VTC Mini, get another, sell a cuboid and keep the RX200. Well I need to use the RX200 first to know if I like it.

@Vape Donkey 650 Your low wattage + scraping off the gunk trick worked real well bro. Good advice.

@Steven Which one do you have dude? And do the silicon rings that come with the DT's enough to keep them attached?
If you are talking about Hydratubes, I have the Recycler shower head perc hydratube and a straight up regular Showerhead perc hydratube. They all will work if that is your concern. Hydratubes come in either 14mm or 18mm fittings. Anything 14mm with adapt to the 2.5 cap and anything 18.mm will fit the 2.7 cap. The orings that comes with the dt donut will not be enough to hold the Hydratubes. U need an actual silicone band. I showed an example of how those disposable silicone mouth tips for vaping can be cut into bands a few posts back
 

fernand

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Gorilla Tape?

So who has the stand that costs next to nuthin' , ok not 2 much,
and has a way to hold/stabilize a rig with a hydratube on top
and a place to park the glass itself when it's off the rig?
 

mrbonsai420

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The Henail or 510 nail bubbler actually locks onto the 2.7 atty VERY well. But I still prefer the good ole PWTA. I use a simple piece of silicone over the 2.7 mouthpiece. I leave about an inch of extra tubing past the mouthpiece and then roll that tubing inside of itself to create a rounded tipped double walled mouthpiece that actually works as both a 14mm and 18mm adapter plus it VERY comfortable on your lips so it stays like this full time. I use mine inverted on standard glass too I just pre melt my dab and don't overload it. I also like it with full sized Hydratubes.

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