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Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by Crohnie, Nov 16, 2018.

  1. Crohnie

    Crohnie Crohn's Warrior

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    Looking through the concentrates section, I was surprised to see there was no dedicated thread for distillates, so I've decided to start one. I learned about distillates recently and find them intriguing. The most characteristic feature (and the one that fascinated me most) was that they have ZERO odor when vaped. There's not a whole lot of flavor either but that's never been a big deal for me in consuming cannabis products. I'm just in love with the idea of how completely discreet this stuff is.

    Generally speaking, I'm more of a flower kind of guy, but I use distillate in my Rubi when I'm on the go, or want to be super discreet. I find oils, including distillate, to be a companion rather than a replacement for flower...kind of raising the effects of the flower to a higher level, if you know what I mean.

    What do other people think of distillates?
     
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  2. BabyFacedFinster

    BabyFacedFinster Capo di tutt'i capi

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    At first, distillates were the only source of concentrates I had. Once other types, such as waxes and rosin,became available I left them to experience other textures and flavors. In fact, the lack of flavor in CO2 distillates did not make them very enjoyable beyond the good high they would provide (and at their high THC counts, they can pack quite a punch).

    But now I'm seeing the options to artificially add back flavor to distillates in the way of isolated terpene and cbd solutions that you can buy online. Another recent post here mentioned this site https://vapeurterp.com/ which looks promising for adding both flavor and/or more fluidity for loading in carts. I see more dispensaries offering "flavored" distillate cartridges and I now see how they must be making them. I just worry about the non-glycol , "plant derived" compounds they are using, which they won't say what they are.
     
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  3. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    I'm not a giant fan of distillates, whole plant extracts are vastly superior to me (entourage effect!!!).

    'reconstituted' cannabis, fuzzy... not necessarily from cannabis terpenes, they aren't adding back in other cannabinoids (CBD, CBDa, THCa, THCv, CBN, CBG, CBC as a starting place) either.

    Terpenes mean flavor and much much more.

    Isolates are fine for some things like CBD, but even with that I prefer getting CBDa along with it, as well as other compounds that help it's action biologically/physiologically.

    for crohn's and other bowel diseases, the terpene beta-caryllophene is very important for switch off the inflammation points in the intestines. best response I've seen is a highCBD strain with plenty of BCP in it.
     
  4. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    Agreed. I prefer a whole plant co2 extract. For me, distillate needs distilled cannabis derived terpenes or live sauce added for a more rounded effect.

    I don't have any problems replacing flower with these more "full spectrum" type cartridges.
     
  5. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Thick Vape

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    It is also in a lot of spices, pepper, cinnamon, cumin, etc. There is often a reason in traditional food recipes why they add spices aside from the taste.
    It is so cool that you have the possibility to choose a strain that fits your requirements better. (compared to the selection outdoor, indoor, hash that was and is quite common in some places)

    beta-caryophyllene: same as (-)-trans-cary...;):lol: (why couldn't they chose some easier words)
    https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalo...=Insite-_-prodRecCold_xviews-_-prodRecCold5-1

    edit: sorry @looney2nz its just a bad case of professional deformation
     
  6. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    no worries, amazing what chemo brain did to my spelling! caryophyllene... sheesh.
    yup, cloves, black pepper, etc.

    make a friend of a grower, see if they'll plant a few Cannatonic seeds :)
     
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  7. OldNewbie

    OldNewbie Well-Known Member

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    I'll post here as it seems the best place, even though the discussion so far is very different from my question.

    Is anyone noticing a distillate shortage in Southern California?

    There is a ton of it in pods and carts, but syringes are hard to find. Weedmaps is useless now as dispensaries list tons of items and it costs too much time to look through them all--especially when when you DO find what you're looking for the dispensary does not have it when you arrive. (I'm getting a little tired of the Weedmap Menu BS. These are supposed to be fully legal businesses that comply with state laws. I await the lawsuits on consumer fraud at the dispensaries due to the advertising problem.) [See if you think 17500 et. sec. would apply. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/...vision=7.&title=&part=3.&chapter=1.&article=1. ] Personally, I might try 17500.5(b). How many $50 + driving cost small claim lawsuits do you think a dispensary has to lose before they start taking menu listing seriously?

    I've been trying out the Pax and Stiiizy pod tech since I got one for a buddy a few weeks ago and kinda like it. The pods are ridiculously marked up right now and I'm not going to keep buying them new and want to try to refill a bit. But, I can't find the product to fill them with. I don't want to make it my hobby where I'm mixing and matching different things to make the finest juice. I just want a reasonably priced syringe I can attempt to refill the pods I have.

    Anyone KNOW a place that has product in Southern California? (To limit a bit, how about in the area that can be boxed by the 710, 405, 55 and 91 freeways or near abouts.)
     
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  8. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    Yes a few of us have definitely noticed, I know @looney2nz has. IMO this is being done on purpose to keep the price of .5g carts high. Then even have .3 mL carts entering the market now.

    Not long ago I posted on here asking if anyone even knew the name of a brand selling clean distillate syringes. I can't find anything.
     
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  9. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    I started to post this multiple times and it has just descending into a rant each time...
    this situation hasn't gotten better folks.

    Between the games they are playing with lab testing, sub-quality products, sub-dose products, packaging, etc... I wouldn't trust 95% of these folks as far as I could throw 'em.

    Between the crap they are selling in carts, the distinct LACK of syringes (let alone clean labs), and the utter DRECK folks are selling for edibles, I'm surprised no one has died THIS year.

    It's going to boil down to this, like the guy who died from the aspergillus that came with a side of his meds... someone will die, the lawsuits will fly. Nice if you're a lawyer. Clearly the state is too busy making money off of us patients to care.

    Wow, in honor of my late friend Erik Heimstadt (Seraph on ASA and 666 on others) I dedicate my 666th post. Speaking of lawyers, he never went into a meeting without James Anthony and Greg (the ACLU drug lawyer).
     
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  10. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Well-Known Member

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    Got a $50 1 gram syringe in San Diego rec store, but it's really designed for dabbing, called the Dabberatus. Plunger system pushes out tiny dab doses with every plunge, so I have to keep pushing the damn thing. Filled OVNS JC01 pod. There were 1 gram vials of Select oil, but pricey at $70, and need syringe. Select carts are same price :doh:
     
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  11. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    wow, that's pretty obscene :(

    Wasn't the Jetty extracts applicator a 'dabberatus' or something like that?
    Jetty has a nice product.
     
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  12. hafalump

    hafalump Well-Known Member

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    All sounds like a “legal state problem” :\ I offer thoughts and prayers to you poor traumatized folks:lol:
     
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