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De Verdamper Reiziger

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by PPN, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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  2. Andreaerdna

    Andreaerdna If God is the answer, then the question is wrong

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    HI @ppn,i looked at it and its more a traveller than a portable unit IMO, meaning smaller parts to carry around but it seems it still need a dc supply (wich could be a battery pack though)
     
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  3. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Ok, I wasn't sure it was a portable vape, I supposed there was a battery pack since it is sold in the portable section… please @VapoShop could you tell us if it's a true portable unit powered with a battery pack?
     
  4. VapoShop

    VapoShop Well-Known Member Retailer

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    This is a travelling vape, technically you could run it via a battery as it can be run from a car adapter but I would suggest it is not a "PORTABLE" vaporizer.

    The idea is that it is easier to transport than the full Verdamper model with the intention of it being setup at a new location rather than taken on the go.

    BTW... it is still an amazing vape.
     
  5. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    @VapoShop
    Is there any difference between this and the classic Verdapmfer and this other than the water vessel ?
    I think this Jar Version is being available for years.(https://verdampftnochmal.de/products/de/Verdamper-Basic-mit-Ventil)
    Just a side note : Any vaporizer can be run off battery pack even the Volcano . If there is not a battery pack included or offered i would consider it portable :).I agree it should be classified as transportable.
    Edited:
    Wait a minute is this a temperature regulated Verdampfer ? Is the classic also regulated now ,i remember it being set at a certain temp.
    Looks like it ( link)
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  6. VapoShop

    VapoShop Well-Known Member Retailer

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    @Abysmal Vapor thats correct, one of the changes is the new power/voltage regulator that is included.
     
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  7. fuby

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    Does anyone know if it possible to vape 0.05gr with de verdamper? I really like them.
     
  8. Alexis

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    Exactly I was just about to make this point forget the portable travellerbility of it (and yes Im sure it is still a plug in). The biggest drawback to the Verdamper was its total LACK of temp adjustment. You could only increase it by placing your hand over the top of the heating element.

    This turned the Verdamper into a serious fog machine with vapor beyond vapor and the heaviest effects. But always way too brutal on my sensitive lungs that way.

    Even on stock setting at 200°C, it was always a very brutal vape lung wise. I owhed one for 6 years and it blasted me to the moon as much as any vape ever. But I passed it on eventually as it was just too aggressive.

    So to see basically the same vaporizer, in a neat tidy semi-portable design, WITH temp adjustment...Interesting!

    If not for my vaporizer intolerances I would be wanting one of these. Although the exposed nichrome wire maybe is better avoided?
     
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  9. Alexis

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    It works best with larger loads as this is what it was designed to handle. The inventor and many long time users stuff 1 or 2 gram in there at a time breaking it down from Hole lugs starting with amazing flavour and superb dense vapor, then obviously increasing and keeping the load going for an age while preserving freshness due to the initial raising size chunks which continue to produce more vapor as they are broken down.

    The Verdamper works amazingly well filled to the brim. A gram load will keep giving monstrous hits that will satisfy a room full of people in a short space of time when used in that fashion.

    Smaller loads are great too, just not too small I would say 0.3 minimum is best but 0.4- 0.6 was my typical load size. But I would always stretch that slowed over two or three sessions. It's does not work well with micro dose amounts of 0.1 or below. You just won't extract everything or enough in one hit and it will be a more gradual extraction without any especially good hits with that load size.

    But it is an awesome vaporizer still one of the hardest hitting that there is easily with its own unique and amazing vape signature. Powerful vape I certainly won't try and discourage you from maybe getting one.
     
  10. fuby

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    Thanks for that clear answer. Sadly in the verdamper is not for me then. I hardly smoke 0.4gr a day so 0.3gr in one setting will be to much for me.
    I see you also have a herborizer is it the same for that vaporizer?

    Thanks
     
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  11. Alexis

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    You're welcome buddy by the way just to be clear you don't have to finish the load in one sitting that's the point I'm making you can fill it and just have a puff or two a day if you want.
    But yes you could also consider the herborizer models there are two different types the original one is called the XL (or smaller basic model which I think is no longer available now).

    This model is suited best and only works well in my experience with larger loads like the verdamper. The Herborizer Ti is the newer model and is much more powerful at extracting quickly and delivering more powerful effects it is a stronger vaporizer and one of the best desktops in the world in virtually all categories especially ease of use taste and most of all effects.

    It can work very well with small loads indeed it has a regular bowl but also a micro dose bowl with a glass plug as a screen which has amazing flavour and is designed to concentrate the heat into a smaller load. The Ti can handle small loads and larger loads you can vary your drawer technique and temperature settings accordingly to get the exact vapour and extraction and hit sizes you want from whichever size load you prefer.

    So definitely look into that one there is a new digital version coming out in early September which will be available on the herborizer website. The inventor is a genuinely nice guy and he offers the best customer service you ever find it's basically a lifetime warranty if something goes wrong with your model he will fix it for you and probably pay for shipping back plus send you some free stuff as well like he does with me everytime.

    Good luck finding the right vaporizer for yourself best wishes man.:tup:
     
  12. fuby

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    Awesome thanks a lot! i Think i have found my new vaporiser!
     
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  13. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    Well it looks like my dream vape is going to be mine soon!
    Actually the dream is the full kit with the huge glass vessel, maybe one day...

    Anyway, the large version is going to be on my desk shortly!
    Second hand but in pristine condition and a spare heater!!
    I am beyond excited!!

    Thank to @Hammahead for the amazing service so far!
    If anyone knows me, this will be soon be blowing through EQ bowls as often as possible!

    Did I mention how excited I am???
    :rockon::love::rofl::whoa::razz:
     
  14. Alexis

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    Good morning bro, great to see and hear from you hope you are good. Haha, suddenly I'm excited! Its aboit time I had an exciting show to watch. I have genuinely always wondered if you would try the Verdamper one day, and what you would make of it.

    To me, it was always a very exciting vaporizer. From the moment of turning it on. It was like an engine almost, it made a sort of noise, an electrical ping, like it's consciousness had been disturbed haha.
    And immediately there was a distinct smell which was one of the best indicators that the Verdamper was heating up.

    Of course, it was only seconds and you could feel the heat pouring off the HUGE radiator like coil. But there was no visual indication so at times my travel adapter wouldn't work or would lose connection without me realising after it was on one minute and the thing would be cold.

    So that noise and initial smell (not sure if it was simply dust or the Nichrome wire itself- I suspect a combo), was a surefire indicator that power was reaching the device, which I have to say, was as sturdy, robust and dependable as possible. No limitations, run it 24/7. Probably dead dead easy for you to repair as well.

    Damn, I kind of wish I had one. It makes me excited just thinking about it. Can't wait to near your impressions. :popcorn::tup:
     
  15. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    @Alexis The only part i didnt like bout the Verdampfer was the smelly heater and a bit of metallic taste was present if you pull trough an empty bowl. It reminded me of an old spaceheater..The Big glass water pipe i would gladly own,although i heard that the glass has become way thinner on the latest production.
    The noise you had on yours imight have been indication of poor contact somewhere on the wiring,it often happens where oxidation builds up somewhere.
    I am currently messing with nichrome ribbon heater with my glass ball DIYs and i can say there is definetly metalic smell when they heat up,especially if there is some moisture on them,but it is not present after some operation *and also are not in the airpath),i so i guess it is so with the Verdampfer,i have had really chance to play with it that long on my NL adventure,but i rented one for a week,and had equally positive and negative impressions of it.
     
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  16. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    After spending a few weeks with the De Verdamper, I must confess that this vape is a monster hitter!!
    The standard bowl is big enough to hold the Stanley Cup in...LOL!!
    Still manages to do micro loads very nicely. Controlled by inhale speed and covering the top part.

    Almost every vape I own has been modified to use an EQ basket if at all possible!
    The De Verdamper was no different and I was up for a challenge!

    The original bowl does fit an EQ bowl but it was not very stable and I need to dump the EQ bowl out every time and clean it... Too much work!
    Since my OG bowl is female, I have it attached to an 18Mto18M adapter.
    Hmmm....
    The EQ bowl fits my adapter perfectly!
    First try was with the DV resting on the bulge of the adapter. The load was pretty far up the joint...
    About 3 seconds into the perfect hit and the cavemen appear and start some small fires in my bowl!
    Bastards!!! Quick clean and re-think required...
    Add some silicone tubing to the one end and it locks the EQ basket in! Genius!
    Add another small ring of silicone to aid in fine tuning depth of load and it is done!

    Now there is one downside...Hot spot...Mine is on the right side edge of bowl...
    Grab some tube lube and refresh the bowl and do the bowl spin while holding the VD.
    Perfection! Thick delicious clouds off 0,05g!!
    This vape is my strongest hitting vape set up like this.
    This was all done through my RooR Vapor WT.

    I tried the OG setup last weekend and was blasted!! So much air to get it going and then the vapor just pours... Had me coughing up my second spleen!

    Very happy with finally owning one of these!

    @Alexis
    I need to send you a PM...Tomorrow!
    For now I have some keywords for you:
    Sour Livers
    3 Bears OG
    Grape Walker Kush
    Northern Cheese haze
    Bomb Berry Auto
    :brow::brow::brow:
     
  17. Alexis

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    Yo, I missed this somehow. :hmm: Im glad you like it and found some effective mods. Yes its a beast hitter isn't it? Was my primary medicator for 6 years. I still miss the profound, level of medication. So long lasting as well.

    I would get into a trend of only hitting it twice a day. Big load fresh in the afternoon, like after food etc before going out for several hours. I would take 4-6 big hits, in short succession, and that would keep me charged motivated and completely satisfied for the rest of the afternoon late into the evening.

    It would be like gradually coming down from an edible but still feeling super relaxed and chilled, without feeling such a need or urge to medicate again as with many other vaporizers.

    And then after dinner at night, to wind down, same again. Quick, short, powerful session, which would keep me right all night until the following afternoon without waking up in the morning feeling like I needed to medicate again in a hurry.

    I have never found another vaporizer which I could use in this exact manner so effectively to be content 24 hours round the clock.

    It used to wreck me and all others. So it is good to hear that Im not such a terrible lightweight. I was sure the Verdamper hits as hard as most, if not any flower vape out there.
    :tup:
     
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  18. Ed's TnT

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    Good morning, I saw this rig and met the man himself last month, what a great guy he is. He had a table full of people trying it and didnt have a whole lot of time to wait for my turn. I follow them on IG and was an honor to speak to him. Guess I am a bit star struck lol.
     
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  19. lazylathe

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    YES!! With a modified bowl, I vape 0,05g with ease!
    Amazing flavor and very strong and long lasting effects.
    It is too strong to be my daily driver but it gets ridden hard a few times a week, especially on weekends.

    Using the original bowls works for small loads as well but it is more suited to being fully loaded and puffed on for a long time.
    My mod uses an 18Mto18M adapter with a sleeve of silicone over the one joint.
    It houses an EQ basket for micro loads,

    When I clean everything again, I will take a short video of my unit with the mod to show you what it can do.
     
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  20. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    @VapoShop

    I am looking at buying the variable controller for this vape soon! With the way I am using it I require a slightly lower voltage to prevent any charring or combustion.
    Looking forward to adding a bit more control!

    This is definitely my hardest hitting vape and the effects also come on very quickly.
    Using the 18Mto18M with an EQ basket and loads of 0,05g, the flavor and clouds are out of this world!
    I have to relegate this vape to weekend use only...

    Zero restriction draw!
     
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  21. Alexis

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    Nice to hear you are enjoying the Verdamper so much bro. Its very interesting to hear from yourself, that I was effectively hitting, arguably the hardest corp vape out there for 6 years. So I came here to FC, already very well indoctinated and qualified.

    I just didnt have you as my sounding board on that at the time. Although you were first in there practically (you may have just been pipped to the line, not sure now it was close) to welcome me and give the best and most considerate advice you possibly could.

    Im not sure if you remember that 2015 day and my first posts describing my experience with the verdamper and other models. And what a long time it has been until you have finally tried this beast.
    I'm sure you will agree the Verdamper makes it SO incredibly easy to get stoned out of your mind very very quickly.

    Yes, draw resistance doesnt exist right, despite the tiniest little opening in the top of the downtube.

    That miniature crevice must be part of the magic of this vape, I reason.
    And boy dont those clouds generate and flow with such force and velocity.
    The only functional downside to it, IMO, was always the lack of temperature control specifically the ability to turn the temperature down.

    I wonder if you have tried placing your hand on top of the heater yet as has always been the trend in Dutch coffee shops to increase the heat and vapor production? I don't actually recommend it because it really isn't necessary but well that makes it a super super heavy hitter, with very long lasting consequences.

    Lazy- you are really making me start to miss it lol! :)
     
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  22. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    @Alexis

    Think you may be mixing up the original Herborizer up with the Verdamper?
    The opening on top of mine is a good inch wide. Not sure about design changes though...

    I will also be ordering one of these soon:
    https://www.vaposhop.com/vaporizer_accessoires/verdamper-power-adapter-transformator/

    It is the new-ish power adapter that gives you variable volts from 7 to 12 volts.
    This means I can set it to work perfectly with my mod bowl and keep the ABV color consistent.

    When I was using the OG HUGE bowl I would place my palm on the top or even leave my grinder on there to concentrate the heat. Holy Moly was I stoned that day... And also the only day I decided to try the massive jar that is used for the water tool, so much air and the hits are huge...Almost passed out.

    Oh and there is also a Herbo Ti in the classifieds I sent a PM about...LOL!!

    Hope you are doing better and that the weather is improving!
    It was warming up and now it is cold and windy again...
    Come on SUMMER!!!
     
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  23. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    No way Biohacker I dont ever get things mixed up....hold on...:hmm:...:lol:!

    Nah Im definitely referring to the OG Verdamper downpipe which the OG bowl slots on top of. This one:
    https://www.vaposhop.com/vaporizer-brands/verdamper/verdamper-down-tube/

    The downpipe itself is less than an inch wide and the opening is significantly narrower than the rest of the tube.

    Yeah covering the top is insane. It seriously wrecks you that way. I realise now also how this vape led me over the years to give people innaccurately high expectations for vaping in general, vs smoking, potency wise.

    When I first got my Verdamper in December 2008, I couldnt use it for 7 weeks due an extremely severe chest infection.

    When I finally did I vaped the maximum amount I possibly could every single day for 11 days. It was 3 straight loads, one early on, one middle of day, one last thing at night before getting in bed.

    A good 0.4 grams per load. Fully vaped in continuos motion, hand over top, as fast as possible.
    Each night I got in bed past midnight after finishing my third and final load, buzzing galore, literally having a whitey each night and it was like everything was so remarkably bright with all of the lights turned off as if the lights were on lol!

    I was high! After those 11 days at roughly 1.2 grams or just over a day I promise you I have never in my life felt more damage from any drug binge. I felt on par messed up and debilitated from an overuse of substances to an equal degree has my wildest brain damaging hallucinogenic hinges from 3 to 4 Day festivals when I literally came home with substantial bra8n damage.

    I can vape that amount of weed in a day now in other vapes, chest allowing, without it seeming like a fraction of the feat.
    People here have led me to believe I was/am a remarkable lightweight to claim that 1.2 gram daily usage was so harcore.

    But I start to think now that it is indeed a feat and a half for most.

    Yes im doing my best to fare up bro but so tough still living in a ditch, but I'm always working on it rest assured. I'm absolutely certain that is an effective mod to be found lol I'm determined to suss it out.
    And yeah- we had...SUMMER! :rockon:

    And now....:( Well it could be worse, but bring back Summer! Have a very nice evening mate. :tup:
     
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  24. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    My new controller arrived today!! And it is preeeetty!!!
    Love blue lights, they make me happy and peaceful so a solid winner here!

    The new controller also weighs about half of what the old one does!
    The wood is a cheaper wood as well and not quality hardwood as the originals were.
    It is also stated that it can be used with all models of the De Verdamper but yet it comes with a barrel connector? The old models require you to open the base and connect the bare wires to the transformer.
    Luckily I had an old bullet connector with a female plug on the other end, so a quick cut, strip and voila! We are up and running but it would be a PITA for most people!

    [​IMG]

    Running at around 11 Volts and it is absolutely perfect!
    Beautiful flavor, amazing clouds and freight train, sledgehammer type hits!
    And the ABV is nice and even all the way through.
    No boost is required using my modded bowl either, just one long inhale that ends before the vapor quits...

    It arrived just in time as well! My High5 that controls my Supreme #4 just gave up on me... Only the up temp button works...FML! 1st world problems strike again!

    I don't think using the De Verdamper as a daily driver is a good idea... It is my strongest micro doser vape using an EQ bowl. It's that stoned to the bone feeling, where you can kind of feel your bones tingling...Am I alone here?? LOL!
    I love this vape and also love the fact that I own 2!! Having a knockout vape with a back up is sweet!

    Thanks to @VapoShop for the awesome service to Canada!

    Muchísimas Gracias!
     

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