Davinci by Karma

[vorrange]

Now my DaVinci will only display Celcius. It's showing that is is Fahrenheit, but it will only go to 207 and it says its 38 in here haha. I guess I have another defective unit.


EDIT: it also never goes back to a set temp when I turn it off, it just stays where I had it

If you press the on/off button for a few second it changes to Fahrenheit again.

 

[Ape With A Vape]

That only changes the letters from F to C. The numbers don't change or the temp scale. Ive been trying that for a while

 

[Dreamerr]

I must say ape you have worse luck then I do and that was hard to beat. Sound defective to me.

 

[vorrange]

I must say ape you have worse luck then I do and that was hard to beat. Sound defective to me.

I agree.. Ape, get another vape.

 

[Ape With A Vape]

You have NO idea!


EDIT: with my luck it would be defective too.

 

[Dreamerr]

Just get an rma number and get a new one Ape...if you get one more broken one we can't ever be in the same state ever.

 

[Ape With A Vape]

What is a RMA number?


EDIT: nevermind, googled it

 

[max]

Convection or conduction. Who cares? This isn't a hot plate vape, where you have to flip the herb like a pancake to get it cooked on both sides. The herb sits in a contained bowl and gets heat from contact, so of course there's some conduction. But the design intent is to draw hot air through the bowl/heat chamber (and certainly not all the herb is in contact with the sides of the bowl), and it works well. Slapping a label on it that says conduction isn't going to change that. Unless you buy an old fashioned crappy dome vape, you're getting good vaporization performance with modern designs. All these questions about conduction or convection are meaningless. If the vapor production wasn't good, and design efficient (which it isn't on dome vapes) then the vape wouldn't be selling and getting good feedback on the forum.

I've used two DV's enough to know that setttng the temp to 385-390 turns the herb very dark and fully cooks it. Going by color and taste (if it's got the burned popcorn taste it's done) is a better method than trusting a temp setting, so I continue to be surprised that users want to push the temp setting up above 400. IMO you'd have to sucking on it really hard with every hit to avoid overcooking with a 400+ setting. Starting a bowl at a 400 or so setting is going to roast the bowl contents in a hurry and ruin the taste. I start getting vapor at a setting below 350 and never start higher than that. It's an easy design to bump the temp up as you go- one degree with every click. I usually move up 5 degrees at a time. The bowl lasts longer and the taste is better.

 

[Ape With A Vape]

My DaVinci had two bars of battery. I left it on the charger for 9 hours and it is still not fully charged.


EDIT: How much more defective can this thing get?

 

[Dreamerr]

Why oh why are you bothering ape...you know your luck just call them Monday and get a return. I don't know how old you are but I have learned through life with my luck that it is all expected. I don't get upset about stuff like this anymore cause I know it is going to happen cause it is my luck. Now I just get upset about everything else.

 

[½oz]

Just ordered mine. Read through ALL, yes ALL the posts to see what was up with this unit. I scored it at a good discount brand new.(if you wanna know Pvt msg).

Can't wait should be here next week and I am ready to do the canister mod and get to vaping on the go again.

 

[Stu]

Convection or conduction. Who cares? This isn't a hot plate vape, where you have to flip the herb like a pancake to get it cooked on both sides. The herb sits in a contained bowl and gets heat from contact, so of course there's some conduction. But the design intent is to draw hot air through the bowl/heat chamber (and certainly not all the herb is in contact with the sides of the bowl), and it works well. Slapping a label on it that says conduction isn't going to change that. Unless you buy an old fashioned crappy dome vape, you're getting good vaporization performance with modern designs. All these questions about conduction or convection are meaningless. If the vapor production wasn't good, and design efficient (which it isn't on dome vapes) then the vape wouldn't be selling and getting good feedback on the forum.

Max, I was just making an observation about the subject at hand. I didn't state that convection is better than conduction, or vice versa. I was just sharing my own thoughts about the different means of vaporization. I was just trying to explain the difference as I see it, not opine as to which method is better.

There are plenty of fine (mostly) conduction vaporizers out there. I own a few, myself. I have recommended the DaVinci to friends and will continue to do so.

 

[OF]

Convection or conduction. Who cares?

Well I do. But I'm only a geek.

To me, understanding how they work helps to use them well. In the end it's all vapor (or not) of course, but some of us find this sort of stuff useful as well as generally interesting. I agree, the average owner needn't know what's under the hood to drive the car effectively.

My DaVinci had two bars of battery. I left it on the charger for 9 hours and it is still not fully charged.

It was switched on, right? It only charges if it's on. It also needs an abnormally high voltage to charge (12.0 Volts won't do it); did the bars on the battery icon 'ripple' showing it knew it was time to charge?

OF

 

[max]

Max, I was just making an observation about the subject at hand. I didn't state that convection is better than conduction, or vice versa. I was just sharing my own thoughts about the different means of vaporization. I was just trying to explain the difference as I see it, not opine as to which method is better.

I know. Didn't mean for my post to come across as critical of your response. I just think old info about conduction designs being inherently inferior has been mistakenly applied to current designs. For some, if a vape is considered conduction, it's to be avoided. That was true back when the hot plate/dome vape still had a chunk of the market. Now anyone doing even a small amount of research will easily avoid the old dome vape design, and end up with something current, which unlike the hot plate method, will be efficient and provide good performance. The DV provides a heat chamber where heated air is drawn through the bowl. Any conduction taking place just adds to vaporization. It doesn't depend on it.

 

[Ape With A Vape]

Well I do. But I'm only a geek.

To me, understanding how they work helps to use them well. In the end it's all vapor (or not) of course, but some of us find this sort of stuff useful as well as generally interesting. I agree, the average owner needn't know what's under the hood to drive the car effectively.



It was switched on, right? It only charges if it's on. It also needs an abnormally high voltage to charge (12.0 Volts won't do it); did the bars on the battery icon 'ripple' showing it knew it was time to charge?

OF

Yes it's main power was on and I was checking it every few hours to see if it was charged. It was charging when I went to sleep and it was still charging when I woke up and I did that 2 nights in a row. How do I know when it is done charging?

 

[Dreamerr]

Sounds broke still. Call them tomorrow.

 

[OF]

How do I know when it is done charging?

You know, I'm not sure. I'll put mine on and see. One way sure is to have all four bars 'lit' when you're done.

Here's a useful test. From cold time how long to say 375 degrees. Then do it again (be sure it's cold again), this time with the charger plugged in. If the charger is working the second time will be a fair bit shorter. Maybe 2/3 or 3/4 the time?

Edit: That was easier than I thought, it was fully charged. I was going to take it out the other day and changed my mind and used another vape instead. So when charging the bars 'ripple' left to right. Once charged ripple stops with all four lit.

OF

 

[Ape With A Vape]

Ok then my unit has never been fully charged. It always shows the ripple. I will do the heat up test later

 

[OF]

Ok then my unit has never been fully charged. It always shows the ripple. I will do the heat up test later

This is making more sense now. It's still possible the charger is low in output, something that's probably not tested before shipment, it sounds like a failure in one of the three square batteries stacked in the lower corner of DV or the charge control board opposite them. Those problems should have been checked for in assembly/test of the unit. The heat up time test may help sort that part out.

One sure way to solve it is to give the lot back, of course.

Have you considered the possibility that the vape gods are trying to send you a message about owning a DV?

Good luck in any event. If you choose to cross the vape gods, I don't know you......

OF

 

[Dreamerr]

Ape please just call and return it. If it ripples and you tried charging for so long it is broke. I don't get why you are trying to fix a new vape that should work out of the box beside from having to do burn-ins.

 

[mvapes]

Ape please just call and return it. If it ripples and you tried charging for so long it is broke. I don't get why you are trying to fix a new vape that should work out of the box beside from having to do burn-ins.

I have to agree - if you bought a Vape that doesn't work at no fault of your own then why hassle yourself? Karma seems like a really good company and supports their products through and through.

 

[hitnrun]

Ape please just call and return it. If it ripples and you tried charging for so long it is broke. I don't get why you are trying to fix a new vape that should work out of the box beside from having to do burn-ins.

I have to agree - if you bought a Vape that doesn't work at no fault of your own then why hassle yourself? Karma seems like a really good company and supports their products through and through.

He basically said why he's reluctant back in his initial post(s): Karma says "not for illegal substances", and he ignored that.

Ape, ISO it real good, pack it up, call Karma (DaVinci) and send it back... by this time next week, you'll have a brandy-new one.

 

[Dreamerr]

There is no issue if you clean it. I have forgotten and sent one recently back without cleaning...not a big deal. Just FYI it wasn't a DV.

 

[Ape With A Vape]

I want nothing other than to return it. I got it at VaporNation and the customer service is horrible. They take days to reply by email. I'm just looking for another number for DaVinci. I don't want to call and get somebody who A) doesn't know what thier talking about and B) can't help with any problems I have. Who can I call or email to talk strictly about returns? Or do I just need to call the same number? II wanted to return it the moment I realized it was defective. I emailed VaporNation last Friday about an hour after I received it, during business hours, and have still yet to receive a return email. Like I said earlier, I'm sick of dealing with this Bullshit customer service.

 

[Dreamerr]

This is what I would do:
Call not email vapenation if you get nowhere call davinci and ask for returns for a defective device. If you get a dumbass then ask for someone else or a stupidvisor.