Darwin's Head Stash
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collegerower
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I am still waiting for mine to come 
aero18
vaporist
It was really difficult to type, so I'll write a more proper review now. Well, let me tell you folks, it works.
The high is different than a cannabis high but only slightly. I noticed that there was no stoned feeling that I usually get (since I try to vape at a higher temp) and that the chemicals (the psychoactive ingredient is probably the synthetic cannabinoid JWH-018) in the plant left a body buzz. Not a stoned feeling, but a muted buzz.
The onset of the high had a way longer duration than cannabis'. It took a while for it to hit me, probably twice as long, so initially I thought it was not working. Damn was I wrong.
I have a really small tolerance, especially after the four-five week break, and this just blew me away. My imagination went wild and the experience was very pleasurable.
The actives vaporized at a much lower temperature than what is normally used for cannabis. Vapor was pouring out of my MZ's stem. This is great for me since the hot cannabis vapors usually get me wheezing and coughing profusely the following few days. This fact contributed to its very low aroma (people in my room could not smell anything!).
I don't know how long the duration of the high is since I vaped around 2 am and went to bed at 3 am, so I will report back later on in the week.
I will definitely consider buying more in the future to mix things up.
The high is different than a cannabis high but only slightly. I noticed that there was no stoned feeling that I usually get (since I try to vape at a higher temp) and that the chemicals (the psychoactive ingredient is probably the synthetic cannabinoid JWH-018) in the plant left a body buzz. Not a stoned feeling, but a muted buzz.
The onset of the high had a way longer duration than cannabis'. It took a while for it to hit me, probably twice as long, so initially I thought it was not working. Damn was I wrong.
I have a really small tolerance, especially after the four-five week break, and this just blew me away. My imagination went wild and the experience was very pleasurable.
The actives vaporized at a much lower temperature than what is normally used for cannabis. Vapor was pouring out of my MZ's stem. This is great for me since the hot cannabis vapors usually get me wheezing and coughing profusely the following few days. This fact contributed to its very low aroma (people in my room could not smell anything!).
I don't know how long the duration of the high is since I vaped around 2 am and went to bed at 3 am, so I will report back later on in the week.
I will definitely consider buying more in the future to mix things up.
collegerower
Well-Known Member
Sweet! My sample came today, but I cant use it till Friday, so I will report back then!
Mckdenton
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lwien
Well-Known Member
You know what's weird about this? We have got into long debates over the various materials that are used in our vapes, from brass to stainless steel, to ceramics, to plastics, etc etc etc, and we question how safe it is when our vapor comes in contact with these various things, but do we question what it is, in fact, that we are actually vaping? I'm not suggesting that there is anything dangerous in Darwin's Head Stash, but in looking at their site, there is no explanation of exactly what is in this stuff, so do we know for a fact that it is a safe product to consume?
lwien
Well-Known Member
True, we don't know what those extracts are, but is it safe to inhale the vapors from the items listed above? What may be safe for our stomach may not ba safe for our lungs. Just thinkin'.............claypool said:only thing we dont know is what the "proprietary extracts" are
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collegerower
Well-Known Member
My problem here is that unless you are growing your own, or get it from a dispensary, you do not really have control over your weed either. In fact a commercial product to me seems safer than a shady deal done with a complete stranger that wants to make money off of you.
aero18
vaporist
If I could, I would stick to cannabis itself. It has proven itself to be a very safe product. I need to research a bit more into how safe JWH-018 actually is. The chemical itself is safe, but what about what it is metabolized into?
This blend is practical for me since I can vape whenever I want in my dorm room with no pungent aroma that could lead to police showing up at my door. Also, I can roll a joint or use my LB on campus (or wherever) and not be bothered by the fear that I might get caught.
Because cannabis is currently illegal, this blend works well in public.
In this sense, having both available to you offers you a great flexibility. Why not have both?
I agree that the taste and aroma is not on par with cannabis though. :/
This blend is practical for me since I can vape whenever I want in my dorm room with no pungent aroma that could lead to police showing up at my door. Also, I can roll a joint or use my LB on campus (or wherever) and not be bothered by the fear that I might get caught.
Because cannabis is currently illegal, this blend works well in public.
In this sense, having both available to you offers you a great flexibility. Why not have both?
I agree that the taste and aroma is not on par with cannabis though. :/
collegerower
Well-Known Member
See, even lwien looses!
None of us are safe!
None of us are safe!
TheGame
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AGBeer
Lost in Thought
There you go... If our government is afraid of this shit because its 'harmful' then hurry the fuck up and legalize MJ. This way THEY can control what crap they put into it before it gets to us. (Kind of like they do with tobacco)
Otherwise other countries will continue to supply this for us without our regulations and safeguards.
Im going to be a guinnea pig, at least let me do it at the hands of my OWN government.
Otherwise other countries will continue to supply this for us without our regulations and safeguards.
Im going to be a guinnea pig, at least let me do it at the hands of my OWN government.
tdavie
Unconscious Objector
I wouldn't touch this stuff with a 10 1/2 foot pole (cue sound of The Grinch). I took a peak around, and it seems as if this stuff is an agonist (meaning it is attracted and binds to) the same cb1 and cb2 receptors as the cannabinoids that we know and love. No problem, right?
Well, when you have a enzyme substrate interaction, you generally have conformational changes in the enzyme (receptor here, while cannabinoids or JWH-018 are the substrate) that leads to a biological cascade of effects. Because they both bind to the same target (in this case receptor), JWH-018 and cannabinoids may be said the be competitive substrates. This per se doesn't mean squat, but if you took some JWH-018 and then later vaped some herb you *might* find you don't get as high as you did before. Why? Perhaps because JWH-018 is still receptor bound, or perhaps because the receptor is still in a different non binding position.
Bottom line is....until I knew the half life of elimination of this synthetic agonist from the body, there is no way in hell I would touch it. Safe? Dunno. I don't know of any peer reviewed studies that have demonstrated LD50's. It's a gamble as to what it does or does not do on a molecular basis.
Tom
Well, when you have a enzyme substrate interaction, you generally have conformational changes in the enzyme (receptor here, while cannabinoids or JWH-018 are the substrate) that leads to a biological cascade of effects. Because they both bind to the same target (in this case receptor), JWH-018 and cannabinoids may be said the be competitive substrates. This per se doesn't mean squat, but if you took some JWH-018 and then later vaped some herb you *might* find you don't get as high as you did before. Why? Perhaps because JWH-018 is still receptor bound, or perhaps because the receptor is still in a different non binding position.
Bottom line is....until I knew the half life of elimination of this synthetic agonist from the body, there is no way in hell I would touch it. Safe? Dunno. I don't know of any peer reviewed studies that have demonstrated LD50's. It's a gamble as to what it does or does not do on a molecular basis.
Tom