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Daily smokers, why are you still buying China glass?

Discussion in 'Glass' started by sevenhundredten, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. MegaMan2k

    MegaMan2k Well-Known Member

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    You must have faith brother,

    enter a random number :D
     
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  2. CurryLeafTreehugger

    CurryLeafTreehugger Well-Known Member

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    I actually used to do that, only it was the main White House # I used to give out. I stopped doing that (haven't had a phone # I would give out for years) when it occurred to me that if they ever DID actually use that number, somebody else was likely to be getting my order, LOL!
     
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  3. MegaMan2k

    MegaMan2k Well-Known Member

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    Just no, I think you need to go lay down and some hash my friend :D
     
  4. CurryLeafTreehugger

    CurryLeafTreehugger Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
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  5. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    I am pretty sure they do not check the phone numbers, I opened my account with them a few months back and the number I gave them has now been cut off (I have now got the Aussie NBN and have cut off my landline as my mobile is AU$10 a month unlimited talk and text in OZ)
    Just give them your old number so it at least looks real and you should be right, got to have access to some glass, no matter where it is from......because we all know...... glass=civilised :tup:
     
  6. CurryLeafTreehugger

    CurryLeafTreehugger Well-Known Member

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    @LesPlenty

    I REALLY wanted that bong. And I used to use the ploy you suggest, for many years, a couple of decades actually, whenever I ran across something that I couldn't fob off with the number for information or all 0's. Or the White House number, LOL!

    But then it occurred to me, if there ever WERE actually a problem, and they actually USED that number, and whoever answered the # I had given managed to reroute the shipment, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

    Makes me nervous. The last time I had a phone # to give and actually gave it out, I started getting not dozens, but HUNDREDS of scam phone calls. My phone had hundreds of numbers on the blocked list before I gave up and gave the phone up. Eventually I will have an OOMA phone but I will never ever ever give that number out once I have it.

    $10 a month unlimited? I WISH I LIVED IN AUSTRALIA! For that and many other reasons. Like sensible gun control, and health care. Although almost everything in Australia is just waiting to kill you ... giant sea crocodiles that swim upriver. Little blue octopi. Deadly spiders that drop on you out of trees. LOL! You guys need the health care!
     
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  7. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    And was there ever a problem?
     
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  8. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    I do not think DHGate would be `on the game` enough to give your number to a courier to help you if there was a problem, I second the motion to give them Pizza Hut`s number and tell them to ask for Dave, Dave`s not here man. :tup:
     
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  9. Mr. Gweilo 420

    Mr. Gweilo 420 Dude

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    save your money for a phone. One step at a time mate.
     
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  10. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    Get a google voice # ......if it is still possible? I got mine years ago and use it all the time for stuff like this.
     
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  11. Likes2vape

    Likes2vape Well-Known Member

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    Just give them Jenny’s phone number 867-5309 that’s what I do.

    Edit: I had to!!
    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  12. CurryLeafTreehugger

    CurryLeafTreehugger Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. No. Phone = not necessity. I have a cell phone with no service for 911, why would you need anything else? I have the interubes, I can chat at my son or even skype him any time for free. Plus e-mail.

    DHGate may want a phone # and I may (do actually) want some glass from there, but want not = need.
     
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  13. CurryLeafTreehugger

    CurryLeafTreehugger Well-Known Member

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    I was a homesteader for many years. Built my own house, as in with my own two hands. But not really "off the grid" per se - I don't really want to do without hot and cold running water, heat, air conditioning (and by extension power and/or gas).

    I remember my grandmother being excited to get running water in her kitchen - which happened when my dad and uncles dug a new well in the basement so she could have the pump at the sink instead of out in the yard, LOL!

    I have alternative means of communication, and after my last phone got spammed to death, not enthused about cell phones. I WILL get an OOMA phone eventually but for now, another phone is not at the forefront of needs. And when I DO get it, not giving that number out to anyone but my son and just a couple of friends.

    Right now I'm just not confident enough to use a fake phone # to get around DHGate's intrusive demand for a phone #, but maybe later, when things are more settled and the potential loss of $25 or $30 doesn't mean I won't have grocery money for the month, LOL!
     
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  14. litrhino

    litrhino New Member

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    Most American glass is being sold as art, rather than a practical tool, and that is probably why most opt in for the cheaper option. At the end of the day its to get you from Point A (sober) to Point B (stoned), so for $20-$200 if it gets the job done, then why not?

    Plus, not everyone has $1000 in lump sum cash to buy a glass piece, the rich still own 99% of the wealth. :)

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    This also reminds me of the time when I was in university and my professor told me to buy a "handmade" guitar versus "machined made/chinese made" guitar (because they are 'better') which I did, spent $6000 dollars and I don't hear a difference (my guitar was $600), and trust me when I was 21 I could have used that money for practical uses versus another guitar.

    Too many people are swayed into thinking that western made is better, or pricier is better.
    Just watch this documentary about this million dollar violin that people think is better, but its not.

    Click to play YouTube Video


    Anyways, the guitar is chilling in its case, and you know how hard it is to sell art, especially when its $400+ or more? Super hard, waste of money, especially if you don't use it anymore.

    Too much money for very little difference, again Point A (no music) to Point B (to creating music).
     
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  15. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Thick Vape

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    So. I would not consider me a daily smoker for various reasons. But I love glass.

    With me discovering dabbing I had a need for some glass pieces. I thought I needed a piece with a male joint. Nowadays it seems the general consensus is for female joints again.
    I thought just for testing lets go with cheap china glass.

    As i cannot order from dhgate I got what I could find on eBay. Only pieces under 50$ for customs reasons.
    One (had toro written on it) broke after around 3 weeks while q-tipping.

    One misses the function partly as the downstem does not go to the base of the unit. My fault I could not see it on the picture and did not ask for clarification.

    A dropdown just fell apart without even touching. Probably heat stress break from the enail. Got replaced.

    I work in a lab and am used to manipulate lab glass. The ground glass joint of the chinese pieces I have, look like precision ground joints, but do not come remotedly near to the real deal.
    To their defence I can say I have a western piece that has a not perfectly ground joint too. Still much, much better than the chinese ones and it works perfectly fine. But I have never seen a lab ground glass joint wobble the slightest.

    I did not expect lab quality from the chinese makers so that was ok for me. I expected the functionality to be a little better. I also got a quartz banger that is near to unusable.

    One of the water pieces is to my liking and works perfectly fine. Ok the color is painted, but never mind. Edit: It is too big though.

    All in all it was educational. I learned that I probably prefer small pieces with little percolation for dabbing. There is just more taste in these things.
    Next piece, if any, will be american (continent, I do not know if you include canada in "american glass") as I think most knowledge for functional dabbing pieces come from there.
    Or a chinese piece that is loved by FC dabbers.
     
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  16. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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  17. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I don’t want people 2 feel bad?
    LORD of the FLIES is a good read!

    I buy Cheap GLAsS because I break it!
    All my expensive glass wp’s I broke.

    My wife hides da CHAMPAGNE GLASSES from me!

    @litrhino my wife is a REALIST type Oil PAINTER.
    I not 2 Bragg I’m as well. (Abstract and many mediums)

    Cannabis is very good 4 one’s health!
    Why is it Demonized?
     
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  18. arb

    arb Well-Known Member

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    I have been very impressed by radiant glass factory aka alina0086.
    We have ordered 9 or 10 pieces so far and all were very well done.
    Correctly tempered consistent joints no bubbles or rough spots nice clear glass of the thickness advertised.
    Other than not being next day delivery they have been flawless regards shipping,packing and customer support.
     
  19. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    This is a subject very interesting!

    I had luck with alina0086 as well as many others who have put up with my goofy ness.
    The FC pieces have been decent 4me also.
     
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  20. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Thick Vape

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    Thanks a lot for your suggestions @LesPlenty @arb and @ataxian. Haha you want to trigger an episode of GAS.:lol:
    @ataxian it seems you have touched and broken more glass than anyone here. Makes you the ultimate expert. You only know how strong your glass is/was when you have broken it. I am happy to hear your advice.
    @LesPlenty
    They are cool! They have a website and it seems they also accept that payfriend" thing which would be perfect for me!
    @arb cool glass too from alina0086. I'll see if they accept something else than credit cards.
     
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  21. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    FRANCE is very CIVILIZED!
    So I will bring cheap glass there.

    FRANCE is just a beautiful place!
    @Sick Vape good luck with your love of glass!
     
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  22. The Beagle

    The Beagle Butanist Bubblemaker

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    European here.
    After a life of using only cheap glass last march I found out that one of the (very) few glassblower in my country lives a couple of hours by car from home. The idea of owning something custom handmade for me was super temptating and having a chance to talk to the actual artist and even being able to see my piece while it was being made was a huge plus.
    That said it costed me 400€, I constantly have to keep an eye on friends and girlfriend when i take it out and it's a PITA to clean while it gets me high exactly as my old 25€ DHGate bubbler.
    In the end I'm very happy with it and I can even see myself looking for some other nice piece in the future but I understand is not for everyone.
     
  23. davesmith

    davesmith Well-Known Member Glass Blower

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    As a glass blower i dont have anythig against china glass except how it prays on the uneducated.

    I suppose i have a problem with the consumer antics of most western societies and the ironic rhetoric most mericans take while the chinese buy theyre country from under them. Irony isnt lost on me at all haha

    I strongly believe in supporting local as i like to keep my money circles small, it is the route of all evil after all.

    Spend your money how you like just be aware of how it effects others not just yourself. Individualism is built into us living in strongly petrol dollar controlled countries but it only controls us as we allow it.

    Be a free thinker. Its not inherent in humans.
     
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  24. jl420

    jl420 Well-Known Member

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    Hi Dave do you have a IG address so I can check out you work always like seeing new fresh ideas...Thanx brother :tup:
     
  25. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    Explain:

    Faith no evidence?
    Fact evidence?

    Fact or Faith!

    I believe in Facts!
    Don’t kick me out!

    This year’s harvest is incredible?

    All we need is LOVE !
     

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