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  1. Jman5280

    Jman5280 Active Member

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    I am new to the whole torch and nail dab routine...but I'm digging it a lot.

    I am still trying to dial in the sweet spot of heating up my quartz nail. I can get a good hit with just 5 seconds of heat up, and I get a good hit with 15 seconds heat and letting it cool down, I can't tell the difference. *I think that a five second heat up and immediate hit is equal to heating up to glowing red and waiting 19 seconds to cool down.


    When I heat up the nail a lot, and make it glow red, I let it cool down for 10 seconds and then hit it...when I hit it I taste butane more that what I am used to with BHO.

    When heating the nail via torch, is butane escaping and finding it's way into the oil rig? Or is the torch flame leaving any butane on the nail?

    Whatever it is I'm inhaling it and not sure if that's normal.
     
  2. max

    max Bingo Coordinator Staff Member

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    Butane has no taste. If you're smelling/tasting anything it's the additive. Butane doesn't escape a flame either. If you smell anything it's butane released before or after flame activation.
     
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  3. Jman5280

    Jman5280 Active Member

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    When I torch I am finding that a vector nitro is heating up my 18mm quartz nail in 5 seconds. If I hit it right away I get a solid hit.

    Is 5 seconds enough time? Or is there any benefit to heating the nail till it glows red (15 seconds) and then letting it cool for 10 seconds?

    To me it seems that they are both the same. But a lot of people suggest to heat up and let cool down...but to me this seems wasteful since a 5 second heat up will work just fine.
     
  4. clouded vision

    clouded vision Well-Known Member

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    I don't use quartz so I can't tell you much about it but with ti I try to heat it just enough, saves a lot of butane in the long run. Try playing around with it and counting while heating then taking a dab right away, try to dial in the sweet spot for you.
     
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  5. Jman5280

    Jman5280 Active Member

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    Everything I read says 5 seconds is to short of a time...but it works for me. Any quartz users know if that's ok?

    Another issue I'm having is that when I heat the nail, the quartz nail starts smoking because of the residue left on the nail. Is that normal?
     
  6. clouded vision

    clouded vision Well-Known Member

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    Unless it's just a little bit of smoke from reclaim inside the nail, that's a really good sign that 5 seconds isn't enough time, that smoke is wasted oil that didn't vaporize from your last dab.
     
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    thisperson Ruler of all things person

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    Yeah, after using some on my coil I've learned that waxes and crumbles don't leave behind any residue. So that's definitely concentrate burning away.
     
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  8. Jman5280

    Jman5280 Active Member

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    Well looks like I'm wasting good oil...

    Anyone out there have experience and can help me know sweet spot for quartz?
     
  9. farscaper

    farscaper Well-Known Member

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    is it working for you? are you getting high? if yes then your doing it right and just over thinking it. no two people dab "exactly" the same.

    are you sure your using to toilet right if you dont ask everyone else how they do it?

    no worries, just dabs :ko: avid quartz lover!

    you should check out the concentrate section. we have some threads with lots of how toos and such.
     
  10. FlyingLow

    FlyingLow Team NO SLEEP!

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    Quit counting.
    Torch it till the slits glow.

    By the time you set your torch down and get your dab, it is ready- bhomb away!



    +1 to jumping into one of the Concentrate threads, I learned a lot in there... feel free to post any questions in the Noob thread as well.
     
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  12. farscaper

    farscaper Well-Known Member

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    :rofl: shit why did you have to call me out bro? now im gonna have to hold my cookies and milk.
     
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  13. SamuraiSam

    SamuraiSam Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the type of nail and how much of a heat sink it is. When you have a quartz castle nail that is hard to heat the bottom of, when you torch it for a while then let it cool, it gives it a chance for the heat to equalize across the nail. You want to let it cool so that you get better flavor! Using a carb cap or your finger if it's has a slide, will also help you lower the temp of the nail even further before dabbing while still getting a complete vaporization.

    Every nail is different. My quartz castle has a bit of mass to it. I torch it in the neighborhood of 10 to 15 second until the top holds red about half a second. I let it cool until you can just feel a little less heat coming off it with the back of my hand/fingers- this nail's about 20 seconds, dab, and cap it.
     
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  14. 420democrat

    420democrat Well-Known Member

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    Is dabbing (torch and nail) not combustion?
     
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  15. clouded vision

    clouded vision Well-Known Member

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    No it is vapor, look up leidenfrost effect.
    You can combust though if the nail is too hot
     
  16. Caligula

    Caligula Maximus

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    Which makes your oil taste like ass.
     
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