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Gear D-nail thread

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by PhotoRider, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. RandomHero

    RandomHero Currently Sublimated

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    I ordered mine in the beginning of Feb. I am still waiting on my unit. I've been in contact with them via facebook and they have answered me within a day of asking each time. Apparently it's my quartz nail that is holding my order up.

    I can't wait to get this though, from what I hear, it warms up to full temp in a matter of a few minutes. I have to wait a good 20 minutes to get a good rip from my Sublimator.
     
  2. S1N3

    S1N3 Tarzan @ KloudSociety

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    I had the pleasure of testing out one of these units for three weeks before having to part ways :wave:

    [​IMG]

    Here are two vids:

    Unboxing


    Usage Video


    And I wrote a in depth review w/ my thoughts, which you can read here.
     
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  3. 421

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    Do you guys find it a problem for the nail to get so hot while sitting in your glass piece? I'm concerned about the nail affecting the structural integrity of the glass over time. I suppose using a separate stand for the nail could be a good solution.
     
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  4. PhotoRider

    PhotoRider Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.

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    yes, a valid concern.

    On the TI male nail I always use an adapter so it would break and not the pipe
     
  5. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I have my gadgets however a good old nail and a torch are cheap and effective.

    Is the $500 price worth it?
     
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  6. Bouldorado

    Bouldorado Well-Known Member

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    I've hit friends' e-nails quite a bit, and they deliver the best tasting dab, bar-none. You just can't match the consistent temp with a torch powered nail.

    You can get cheaper e-nails now (2-300) but it won't be worth it personally unless they drop to <$100. Like you said, a torch/nail is cheap and effective and I just don't dab enough (not even daily) to justify the purchase. There's also not a night and day difference between an e-nail and a torch (regarding flavor); definitely noticeable, but not worth 500 bucks for the flavor alone.
     
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  7. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I have a PERSEI HERCULES SR74 7.4 volts that I want to try.
    If the enail taste better I got to have it however my $8 torch and my $12 T2 Domeless taste amazing and the medical effect is sedative!
     
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  8. 421

    421 Well-Known Member

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    Just pulled the trigger on an analog D-Nail with a 18mm male to 14mm female adapter for water pipe safety ^_^

    Can't wait to get it. I'm switching from a DBV setup, which is big and takes up more desk space than I'd like. Dabs really well tho, will be good to have this for backup.
     
  9. thisperson

    thisperson Ruler of all things person

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    I was kind of expecting a built in water tube stem with a heater core bowl. A one piece actually with a volcano esque base to hide the electronics.

    This was interesting but is not the nail for me.

    Got to keep searching for more electrical nails!

    I am curious though. Do you dab on the coil heater so it is a nail or is it just a heating element for the other nail?

    I would imagine the first scenario is it if it was portable but this is ac and I think they could have done the second.

    Just wanted this cleared up. Thanks.
     
  10. 421

    421 Well-Known Member

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    My D-Nail is being shipped to me but I believe I can explain: coil heater goes on nail, coil heats up nail, dabs are done on the nail.

    Check out the Vapexhale Cloud Evo with a Vapexnail and Hydratube. Pricey setup but it fits what you are looking for.

    Vaporbrothers VB2 does as well, but it doesn't have a built-in water tube attachment, I think you have to use a whip in that case.
     
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  11. thisperson

    thisperson Ruler of all things person

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    I didn't know about that product. Thanks for the direction. It is a bit pricey but it seems to be exactly what I want.

    I really liked the attached water bongs some users have.

    I'm curious as to what type of nails there are.

    So far I have surmised that there are coil in glass nails where the liquid vaporizes off the glass after the coil heats the air inside, then there are coil to nail setups where the e nail is just a heating element for another nail and although I haven't seen them I'm assuming there are also nails that heat up and you can dab off them directly.

    Anyone know the different quirks of each of these nail types? And if there are others?
     
  12. 421

    421 Well-Known Member

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    Got my Analog D-Nail in :nod:

    I'm pretty amazed with it so far. Though I did turn it up to max to get it heating up, didn't realize it would heat up so fast and oxidized the nail already from 1000+ temp I believe! Oops.

    I love dabbing right in front of my face, whereas before I had a whip setup and had to turn my head and reach my arm awkwardly. Being able to see the dab vaporize very clearly is nice, somehow everything feels much more efficient. Overall I'm really happy with my purchase. I might try to mod it later on with a better temp controller, right now it's some sort of sliding dimmer. I would really like a notched knob, with a lot of steps, hopefully 20+, seems like a do-able mod (tho I believe nice many stepped knobs are expensive).
     
  13. syrupy

    syrupy fumed

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    With that kind of dimmer, do you feel you get good fine temp control? Does the slide stay in place OK?
     
  14. 421

    421 Well-Known Member

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    Seems like it stays in place pretty well. I don't really feel like I get a fine temp control, but luckily I have an IR thermometer that I've been using to track temp changes. So yeah, fine temp control seems hard for right now. I actually thought it was a stepped controller from hearing people use fractions for where the temp is.
     
  15. Silver420Surfer

    Silver420Surfer Well-Known Member

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    I just tried an analog e-nail today, had the dimmer switch thing also. As much as I want to be, i wasn't impressed. Don't know if I just need time to mess around with it myself to fine tune temps or what. Same friend has a Nectar Collector, THAT was the memorable experience of the 2 for me.

    While I certainly may have tried the "entry level" version, the mega-expensive versions will have to do a much better job for me to ever invest in one. I could see where some patients may chose this over a torch and nail for ease of use though. I would definitely have to be able to try one of the more "quality" devices before I buy. Not digging it, but that doesn't mean it's not a good choice for others, :2c:.
     
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  16. Caligula

    Caligula Maximus

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    I LOVE that wooden enclosure.
     
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  17. 421

    421 Well-Known Member

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    After dialing in at a nice temp on my analog (~650 I believe), I disconnected the XLR power from the heater, instead of using the dimmer to turn it off. Reconnected the XLR this morning and it's working really well, no fussing with temps. Seems like a decent work-around to the dimmer issue for now.
     
  18. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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  19. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Whoa, this thread gathered dust way too quick!

    I have a DIY Dnail 1.2 on the way with a PukinBeagle 20mm quartz tapered DI nail to take up residence on my Ryu Wilson rig.

    My Sublimator is to become dedicated to flowers and hashes on my Luke Wilson flower rig, whereas oils will go on the dnail in the oil rig for separation of reclaim and keeping the tastes and experiences of the two separate!

    I agree the standard units are quite pricey, but the DIY unit is not so unreasonable for what appears to be the most tried and true enail.

    Gotta say too that I spent a bit of time on the phone with customer service due to an issue with their new payment system, so far they have been great with service and had knowledgable staff!

    They were very honest that between the D-Nail 2.0 and 1.2, there is very little practical difference unless you were gonna use it outdoors a lot or really needed a smaller unit. I really appreciated that!

    Will post pics and review and maybe even milk vid after it arrives in a week or so :D
     
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  20. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    So the D-Nail is one of the best purchases I’ve made so far.

    It arrived yesterday, I immediately unpacked it, carefully removed the bubble wrap on my new 20mm PukinBeagle DI quartz nail, gawked at said nail and how fucking huge it is, then put it on my oil rig.

    I then took out the quartz carb cap, admired it, placed it on the nail, admired how it stays on top PERFECTLY with no hands, then put this aside.

    Then I realized I needed to assemble my DIY D-Nail 1.2 in the hour or so I had before I had to go out.

    So I got to it, took out all the components and lo and behold, assembled the whole unit in 20 mins flat. Took 2-3 small dabs of what was left on my dabber last night (some tasty Northern Lights) which kept me sky high for the rest of the morning most of the night. The cables are all pre-cut and the terminals for cables are all supplied, all you need is a small-ish phillips head screwdriver and a 2.5mm flathead screwdriver.

    Now that I had assembled the unit, it was time to leave for the day, I wouldn't get to take her for a whirl til later.

    When I got home, I set the temp to 710f and got out a generous dab of clear yellow THC Bomb shatter. The D-nail heated up in about 1-2 mins after turning it on. Despite having not even seasoned my nail, the dab was exquisite. I have been dabbing absolutely top notch THC bomb shatter for quite some time now, and am used to the flavour. However, on perfectly heated quartz, a clarity of flavour is there that I have never had before. If you dab high end oils, you would be remiss not to buy yourself a good quartz/ceramic enail to savour that flavour! I can’t believe how many sub-par tasting hits I have had off incredible shatter when I could have just bitten the bullet and bought an enail.

    Also, my piece NEVER gets gunked up anymore, reclaim tends to gather in the bottom of the DI funnel of the nail – super convenient :D

    I tend to dab at about 695f for shatter, which means effective carb capping is ESSENTIAL. The purpose made carb cap is indispensable here, just drop your bhomb/dab on the nail and carb right away to pull all the good stuff through quickly!

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  21. lazylathe

    lazylathe On the verge of...

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    @herbivore21 Do you have a link to the DIY kit?

    Looks very cool!!
    And i like the fact that you can assemble it yourself!!
     
  22. TeeJay1952

    TeeJay1952 Well-Known Member

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    You build, send to me.....How much? (not an offer just thinking aloud.)
     
  23. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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