Concentrates for Noobs - Q&A

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by FlyingLow, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. throwawaytre3s

    throwawaytre3s Well-Known Member

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    I find that if you apply it directly to your dabber it works great, particularly if it's in a syringe. Mine is usually really really unstable, hence the need for a syringe to begin with. I can't imagine getting it in the little glass jars I've seen some people get, that seems horrible.

    You can also eat it directly, or make edibles with it, too, since it's already decarbed. As far as ecigs, I think you'd still need to use a PeG mix like EJmixx or PuffMagic, it probably wouldn't soak into your wick well enough on it's own.
     
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  2. muunch

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    Yeah, looks like I'll be getting it in a glass syringe? But I don't think there are any labels on the syringe but a lil guesswork ain't too bad. I'll prob just dab it or add it to food/drinks for lowkey-ness.

    Thanks! @throwawaytre3s
     
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  3. throwawaytre3s

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    No problem man, just so you know for me it was 1 gram per 1mL in the syringe. So half a gram would be .5mL on the syringe, if it does have markings.
     
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  4. Hillbilly odd couple

    Hillbilly odd couple New Member

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    I was told that adding half once of warm everclear per can of butane used would help purge the butane better and not add more time to a heat purge. Need some advice before I try it. Worried about loosing flavor.
     
  5. witka

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    THC Distillate, if i'm not vaporizing it, does it still need to be decarbed?
     
  6. throwawaytre3s

    throwawaytre3s Well-Known Member

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    No, regular distillate is decarbed already, you could eat it raw if you really wanted to.
     
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  7. acolyte

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    I've heard this many places, and it makes sense.. but I've also read one report of someone saying it didn't work for them. In my opinion, just make sure it's really thc distillate (trusted source) rather than just clear BHO or other.. has anyone here tried it?

    I'm also curious.. does anyone here find low temp dabs _more_ harsh?

    I usually take dabs around .05g, occasionally taking .1 to .2g dabs. I have two different quartz nails, a 4mm banger with carb cap, and a diamond knot (no carb cap needed) both well reviewed on other forums and presumably here (not sure if I can name vendors).

    Whichever one I use, I heat it until it glows orange, then wait until it's not orange. Then count down until I dab. Anywhere from 15 to 60 seconds.

    The hotter hits seem less harsh. I'm wondering if it's because the concentrate fully vaporizes instantly, rather than over a period of 5-10 seconds.. resulting in a longer draw of vapor. So even though it's the same amount, getting it frontloaded seems easier, like clearing a bong vs taking pipe hits.

    The other weird thing is that the taste seems to be worse at lower temps..

    This is with legal concentrates purchased from a dispensary, as well as some from another source which is also very good quality.

    Edit: I've just thought... I wonder if the cooldown times on my nails are just much lower than I thought for some reason. People report the very same 4mm banger I have as needing around 55 seconds, but perhaps my torch isn't heating it as hot or something similar.. I have the bed bath and beyond torch, I believe it's a vector clone.

    If this were the case, then the shorter wait time of 15-20 seconds that I really like could be a low temp dab... and waiting longer than that would be more like a lukewarm dab that isn't hot enough to really work. I've certainly never dabbed it red hot.

    Been wanting to get a good infrared temp gun, but I want one that goes up to 1000F and I don't know enough about them, seems like reviews are all over the place on whether it's accurate enough or not and what not on every model except the expensive ones.
     
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  8. throwawaytre3s

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    Well given that distillate must be distilled out from concentrates, it has to be decarbed in the processes of making it. Real distillate is already decarbed, you're right.

    I use an e-nail with a Ti dish, and I've been wondering about temps lately. I typically dab at about 600, and a low temp dab would be like 530. I'm having a hard time finding some good resources to see what other people use.
     
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  9. FlyingLow

    FlyingLow Team NO SLEEP!

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    does properly cured material gain anything from being decarbed before vaping.
    was looking at the Nova
     
  10. acolyte

    acolyte New Member

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    FlyingLow, I believe decarboxylation will happen at a temperature which is lower than the vaporization temperature, so by the time you get vapor the THC and other goodies will be fully decarbed.

    That being said, dryer bud is better in my experience because it has less water to evaporate before it can melt the other compounds. Sometimes I grind up a lot and let it sit in my grinder as I vape throughout the day so it gets drier. The vapor is harsher but more abundant.

    I've never personally tried decarbing weed before vaping it however. I believe the nova gets good reviews, if you need to decarb for edibles anyways it might be nice. Perhaps experiment decarbing in the oven and vaping first, unless cost isn't a concern.

    edit: just realized.. what material are you referring to exactly? I was thinking of flowers here, but realized we're in the concentrates thread. I've only heard of people decarbing concentrates if they want to make them into an edible. Apparently waxes, oils, shatters etc will bubble up as the co2 gets released during decarboxylation, so you can tell when it's finished when it stops bubbling so much. https://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/
     
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  11. throwawaytre3s

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    Yeah, this is a great rule of thumb, typically what I use. 260F for 15-25 minutes or until it stops bubbling completely.
     
  12. FlyingLow

    FlyingLow Team NO SLEEP!

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    Anyone try one of the gordo scientific caps?
     
  13. Bad Ocelot

    Bad Ocelot Well-Known Member

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    I typically have my enail set to 525-555 with either a quartz banger or swivel carb cap nail. Not sure I can tell a huge difference in that range. There is a weird lack of info about common enail settings. That I've been able to find anyway.

    Question: so I recently acquired some rosin. Tasty stuff. On the first hit anyway. After that it tastes kinda burnt. I'm assuming this is due to some small amount of residual plant matter in the rosin? There isn't any visible, but it sure is gunking up my nails & vape pens. Is there any (reasonably efficient) way to rectify this? I'd guess some sort of filtration? I don't wanna strip out all the terps, but the burnt taste is annoying & has me wondering if I'm really fucking combustion by using it.
     
  14. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Thinking to upgrade my enail setup with the TAG sic dish, Is it fitting all nails (infiniti style)? Is it usable with a 20mm barrel coil (my only one at the moment)?

    And did you recommand a carb cap or any would work?
     

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