Concentrates: Do you buy? Do you DIY?

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by herbivore21, Jan 11, 2017.

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Do you buy, or do you DIY your concentrates?

  1. DIY Only

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    33.9%
  2. Mostly DIY with some purchases

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  3. Purchase Only

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    23.7%
  4. Purchase mostly with some DIY

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    27.1%
  5. Neither, I don't use concentrates!

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  6. Other (state below if possible)

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    3.4%
  1. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Are you somebody who makes your own extracts, or are you somebody who buys it? :)

    Thanks to @Dangus for the suggestion for this thread :D
     
  2. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Neither...I smuggle. LOL Ok, so I had to buy it first but still....I am patiently waiting....for that day...in Maryland...when I can go to a MMJ dispensary and buy.

    Cheers
     
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  3. ginolicious

    ginolicious Well-Known Member

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    I DIY. Not that good turning keif into shatter as of yet. For some reason my ABV is much better. Oh well stillearning
     
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  4. matthend

    matthend Well-Known Member

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    your abv is better at turning into shatter? Are you squishing or using solvents?
    I DIY as I live in an oppressed state and it is the only way to get anything decent or know what is in it. With the advent of Rosin, it is now much easier to DIY something nice as long as you have good starting material.
     
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  5. ginolicious

    ginolicious Well-Known Member

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    Use 99.9% ISO. But for some reason on my last batch of kief I couldn't get the chemical taste out of it. May try purging the stuff again.
     
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  6. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Presumably you purchased what you are forced to smuggle though? :p If that is the case, you could still say that you only purchase :p

    Hopefully that day when you don't need to smuggle comes sooner than later my friend! :peace:

    @ginolicious if you do extremely small runs with very little material, you will be drying an incredibly thin film. If even a little too much heat is applied for a little too long, you'll spoil the batch. I've been thinking on your situation a few days since your earlier posts when this first happened and I am pretty certain this is what happened. This variable is just one of the many reasons that I do not suggest that most people process with solvents. It is so much easier to get much nicer medicine from rosin.
     
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  7. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    I hear some folks pass trim to friends who are willing to do the work and take a cut a t the end.
     
  8. TwistedGray

    TwistedGray Well-Known Member

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    Economically speaking, is it not cheaper to buy than DYI (exception being those who also grow).
     
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  9. Lou Taylor

    Lou Taylor Well-Known Member

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    I've been making my own BHO for years. Lately due to the cost of butane I am switching over to butter and coconut oil. not nearly the same.
     
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  10. shredder

    shredder Well-Known Member

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    I've used ISO for years, but mostly for eating in capsules. It's hard to get all the solvents out for sure.

    I think with ISO it's best to winterize with ethanol. That is after prossesing, redisolving in ethanol, then freezing, refiltered, and evaporate again until done.

    I agree with herbivore, rosin is easier, and safer.

    I also agree with him, in that, thin films of ISO derived oils dry more (and evaporate solvent) as its exposed to air.

    For quiso I smear the oil on a large oil slick pad, dry for a day or two, then freeze to recover.

    Best of luck. Hope I'm not derailing the thread
     
  11. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    I don't grow and if you can find full melt like what I dab regularly more cheaply than I can make it myself, I'd be very surprised! It depends what you are making though, there'll definitely be some products that are more expensive to DIY.
     
  12. rabblerouser

    rabblerouser vaporizer evangelist / collector

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    I made them before I had any access to buy them, buy them occasionally now. With new legal growing, looking to get back to making them.
     
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  13. Lou Taylor

    Lou Taylor Well-Known Member

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    if it's legal for you to grow that's the best possible way. Several of my friends here in New Mexico regularly spend over 1k a month at the dispensaries. The prices they charge are insane
     
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  14. shredder

    shredder Well-Known Member

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    Wow!

    I'm a caregiver with patients on disability, all of them only make a fraction of that per month.

    Legal dispensaries, with all their choices, wouldn't mean much to them. A real shame
     
  15. 2clicker

    2clicker kill your masters Accessory Maker

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    i can buy shatter and pull and snap oil cheaper than i can DIY.

    sadly i wish it was reversed. :cry:
     
  16. Lou Taylor

    Lou Taylor Well-Known Member

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    You are entirely correct. Most of the dispensaries offer donation jars that are used to help those who can't afford the meds, and it is an issue. Also an issue (imho) is the $300 it takes to get the medical marijuana card initially. The folk who need it the most are the least able to afford it. The renewal has dropped to $75 which is great but still... They can say the dispensaries are non profit all they want. I don't believe it.
     
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  17. turk

    turk turk

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    ..both... occasionally I buy shatter...I press rosin.
     
  18. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    You are so right folks are not getting the befits that the plant offers, that is part of the problem of turning construction and management of a pot marketplace over to the same system that has historically maligned and fought against access. Sometimes you don get what you want, sometimes you don't even get what you need.
     
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  19. Monsoon

    Monsoon Well-Known Member

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    I was nearly exclusively DIY for the last few years but now I'm buying all my shatter for dabbing from online recreational dispensaries here in Canada. I was pretty much forced to make it myself when I started due to lack of availability or just too expensive but now my stuff is only $5-10/g cheaper if that. While my QWET is pretty good overall I don't find it tastes quite as good as some of the shatters I can buy. I plan to keep making my own QWET but probably just use it for edibles and lotions.
     
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  20. nosmoking

    nosmoking Fogmonger

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    I would love to have more DIY knowledge, skills, tools and equipment. The only DIY I currently do is Rosin. I have access to some of the finest medical marijuana that Colorado and California produce. The nugs are always cured and trimmed very well and have very strong effects. Their all dispensery grade top shelf basically and I usually have a choice between 5 or more strains. Typically I load up on a Sative dominant strains and then get a little of an Indica dominant strain as I need daytime medicine more than night time medicine.

    Since July/August I have been consistently relying on concentrates only to medicate. All my flower I have gets pressed eventually. I have been fortunate that most of my medication has been BHOSTCO Extracts which his BHO Nug Run Shatter and Live Resin. This stuff has been great, however when I run out and don't have access I tend to press whatever flowers I have. My favorite to press lately has been Sour Tangie but if I could make my own BHO I totally would as I prefer the effect and flavor I get from the Bhostco Extracts than the Rosin I press. I even thought about reaching out to you @herbivore21 for some knowledge and help! I hate running out of concentrates as my life is very busy lately(out the house at 6am and not back until 8pm + 3 kids) so trying to find time to press a couple grams of bud just for a day or two of medicine can be near impossible some days. A weekly or bi-weekly BHO run would probably keep me happy and medicated if I would just learn how and by the necessary tools and equipment.
     
  21. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Man that is such a high cost per month! What are these guys consuming and how much are their meds costing? Sounds like some insane prices going on there!

    Definitely man, cannabis medicine is far too expensive for a lot of the most needy patients atm :( Same with a lot of other medicine. The state of healthcare is fucked up :(

    Definitely drop me a line man, we can get your rosin tek as dialled in as possible. What temp/pressure you using for rosin atm brother? If your rosin doesn't taste as good as your BHO (of course live resin is a different story some live resins might taste better than a good rosin if made well), this usually means that something is not being done ideally on the rosin side. :)

    BHO in the home is really not recommended if you have no experience with solvent processing, you would need a closed-loop system and a space away from the family to process. Open blasting BHO is fucked up and I do not recommend it at all to anybody. Please do not store butane cans in the house with kids, a single exploding can could lead to horrific results. Of course you may be aware of all of this but we gotta make sure we look out for one another here :)

    I think it is best to work at your rosin technique first all the same ;)
     
  22. TwistedGray

    TwistedGray Well-Known Member

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    I have a friend with two scars, one on the inside of each arm. They are about 4.5 inches in length, both of them.

    He had a tray blow up in his hands while they were making shatter in their house, and the explosion broke a glass dish (presumably the tray) and projected glass at him.

    Needless to say, he isn't making shatter anymore, lol.
     
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  23. nosmoking

    nosmoking Fogmonger

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    I will drop you a line soon my friend. As far as BHO, I understand the safety concerns and risks and if I ever went that route I was hoping for a closed-loop system as you mention and running it out of my shed which is detached from the house.

    As for my Rosin tek, I am getting great results IMHO but I am working with a hair straightener that only goes down to 310F in a shop vice. I get really good tasting Rosin and it probably is considerably better than the terps in the BHO. The BHO I get has more of a smooth and creamy flavor profile whereas my Rosin seems to have a highly terpy Piney flavor profile typically. I am sure I could refine my tek and get it much better, but I don't really like the idea of pressing and collecting through so much because it becomes very time consuming. Perhaps it would be less time consuming if I was pressing more than a gram at a time but I don't think my setup would work for that.
     
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  24. zenmasterofzinfandel

    zenmasterofzinfandel Well-Known Member

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    I currently purchase only, bc I am in a certain very stressful point in life where I have little time to grow or process flower. Same for if I purchased flower/trim to make hash and/or press rosin, just do not have the time (wish I did as I hate going to dispensaries and wasting so much time with ignorant budtenders).

    I have many heirloom/landrace sativa strains supposedly from 60's/70's/80's- seeds of questionable origin that I would love to grow out, as they may be genetics you cannot find anywhere commercially, which represent possible better meds. If only I had the place to grow...not now, maybe in the future. I think the prices for MMJ are just insane, for the wealthy; much like big Pharma charging armNleg for various cancer drugs.
     
  25. Winegums

    Winegums Sticky and chewy Accessory Maker

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    I tend to make my own QWISO more often than I buy any other concentrates. I'm mostly an herb guy but I love concentrates when I can get them.
     

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