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  1. darkrom

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    Its just my way of saying if they invented some awesome new solvent free technique, why can't they share that info so other patients can have "the best". Because they care more about being exclusive and the only ones having the method. That is very much saying fuck you to all patients who don't have access to the stuff in their lab.
     
  2. Chill Dude

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    So if Apple invented some awesome new technology that will transform the industry they should immediately send a memo to Microsoft telling them exactly how they did it? Darkroom, I hear what you're saying, but is just don't agree with it. Let's just agree to disagree....

    What you can do is tell your dispensary about this new concentrate that's quite the buzz in Cali called "The Clear". Then perhaps your dispensary can call them and see if there are any plans to distribute the product on the East coast( in your case Massachusetts).
     
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  3. Caligula

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    What we have here are two competing ideologies. Sadly, its difficult for the two to exist in the same place and time.

    Look at it like this. Without the incentive of profit, this concentrate probably wouldn't be around. This need to develop the "next best thing" is directly related to the all mighty dollar. Its nice to think that people would freely invest their resources (time, money, knowledge) for the benefit of others, but sadly that's not the world we live in, especially in this

    The world we DO live in, however, has progress driven by competition and profit... and (IMO) that's why we are now seeing products like Pure Gold and The Clear.

    So, while saying that they are being "greedy" is a truth, its really just an individual moral judgement, and not really something based in the reality of this specific situation.


    Anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyy....

    I just ordered more to try out. Got some Strawberry Cookies and Jack Walker. Ill post up after I get to try them.
     
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  4. Chill Dude

    Chill Dude Well-Known Member

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    Very well stated....Welcome to Econ 101 presented by Professor Caligula. Today's lecture: Supply and Demand as it pertains to the Cannabis Industry and... Is Greed Good?

    I've had both the Strawberry Cookies and Jack Walker and they were both solid. The Cookies hits more Indica than you might think nice sweet taste. The Jack Walker is my personal favorite. The flavor is really good with pine, lemon OG like taste on the exhale. The Jack hits harder with an initial soaring sativa high before it gravitates more to a deep intense indica body stone. Final Grade:

    Strawberry Cookies: 8

    Jack Walker: 9

    Let me know what you think when you get a chance to try them...
     
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  5. Caligula

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    The Strawberry Cookies tastes like fucking strawberry cookies. Its amazing! Im actually having a hard time believing that they didn't add something to the concentrate to get it to taste/smell this good!

    I just vaped off a good 0.25 in the Hercules via my Pinnicle WT, and I can say I'm on a good one right now. You're right, I really feel the indica effect in my lower and mid back, however the trouble Im having typing this has to be the fault of it's sativa side. Im liking what Im getting so far, and Im only 15 minutes in.

    Ill try the Jack Walker tomorrow when I can make a more solid comparison. Still amazed by the taste of this stuff though. Much better than the Ultimate OG IMO.
     
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  6. Chill Dude

    Chill Dude Well-Known Member

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    I agree, the Strawberry Cookies are super tasty indeed. The strawberry sweetness on the exhale is ridiculous! Wow dude, .25g of "The Clear" in the Hercules that's some serious medicine! The SC is very effective for pain relief. I only use that strain at night because it's too strong for me during the day due to its indica inspired effects. The SC couch locks my ass big time...A great nighttime med for me...

    I know, I know I was going to try the Ultimate OG last night, but I had some of the Jack Walker still left in Cera, so I got blazed on that. Still liking the Jack Walker a lot!!!

    Tonight I have an exclusive meeting with Mr. Ultimate Og. I'll let you know how that goes...
     
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  7. Space Case

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    so gram for gram the consensus is it is better than PureGold?
    I just ordered my first carts for PG. But if this is better and $10 cheaper then I might make the switch.
     
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  8. Caligula

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    I for sure overdid it last night. I had a slight weed hangover this morning, and I typically only get those if I eat a large amount of THC. That's no knock on the product, but more of an example as to how potent it is.

    I threw in some of the Jack Walker, taste is very good although I think some residual Animal Cookie is in there since I can still taste it. Not that I'm complaining. Id say so far this high is more "workable" for daytime use. Ill keep you posted.

    YES.

    Also, you can buy it in 0.5g increments. You dont need to buy a whole gram of it, although PGP has something like a $45 minimum and a half gram is only $35. That being said, its cheaper to get a full gram, and yes they let you mix and match.

    The only advantage I see PG having is that its undetectable when you exhale. Like literally undetectable except seeing the vapor. This stuff smells dank on the exhale for sure.

    But as I said in PM, The Clear stuff should work really well in Omicron carts. If you do get this stuff, go for a full gram. That way you can add to the cart before it gets empty. Dont put more than 0.7g in it at any one time and don't let it get below .02 if you can (I know its hard to tell without a scale, but if you do have one weigh the cart when its empty, & then after you fill it. That way you can tell how low its getting.).

    Thats the best way to prevent fouling since this concentrate is so pure.
     
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  9. Chill Dude

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    IMO, yes. The Pure Gold product has a kind of funky orange taste that simply does not agree with me. That said, taste is mostly subjective. I say give pure Gold a shot, you never know if it's right for you until you try it. IMO, Pure Gold is boring...it always taste the same and the effect is always exactly the same. So the question is, are you seeking consistency or variety? I prefer a more versatile product such as "The Clear", it comes in various strains with very different flavor and effect profiles. Sometimes I prefer a heavy indica for late night pain and insomnia and sometimes I prefer a strong Sativa dominant which doesn't limit by daytime productivity, but still provides some pain relief. PG always tastes the same and it's effect is always an even keel hybrid effect. The high for me is much stronger and more varied with "The Clear". However, as you know, a lot of people like PG a lot so it's worth a try. Additionally, Being that PG oil is so thin, it actually leaks in oil carts sometimes. In fact, PG is the only product that I've had leak in my Cera on occasion, and I believe it is also prone to occasionally leak in the persei and omicron units(Caligula might be able comment on that).

    Bottom line, wine snobs don't drink 2007 Napa Cabernets every night, so why should oil snobs vape the same oil with the same taste and same effects everyday? Variety is the spice of life!! I mean, for me, part of the fun aspect of weed and oil is to able to compare and contrast different strains, effects, thickness of vapor, consistency... With Pure Gold it's always the same all the time...BORING....

    Oh yeah, I think it well worth $60 a gram for sure....
     
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  10. Caligula

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    Yea you can get away with PG in an Omicron cart as long as you use up the cart in a few days time. No matter what it'll start to leak after a week it so, even if its just sitting there. Also, I wouldn't risk reusing carts with PG. Lots oof leaks and wasted PG to be had on that road.

    I honestly think The clear will feed better in an Omicron cart and it sure as hell won't be nearly as prone to leaking.
     
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  11. Space Case

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    That settles it...I'm getting both :dance:
    No smell is a big plus but I will need a change of pace too
     
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  12. Caligula

    Caligula Maximus

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    Let us know what you think!
     
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  13. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    @Caligula

    How does the potency compare between The Clear & the shatters or waxes from Frosty's Delivery?
     
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  14. Caligula

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    More potent for sure. Then again there's a reason why this is $60/g. Still can't beat Frostys 3/$100 deal (especially for their quality), but if I had unlimited funds I'd dab Clear until I got bored of it... Which could take a while.

    But let's be honest about it. At 81+% THC, The Clear can't be fucked with in the potency department by very many things.
     
  15. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    Makes me think that The Clear is some sort sort of nug run while Frostys is probably HQ fresh trim concentrate. Would explain the potency difference & the price difference.
     
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  16. Space Case

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    what is the minimum to load an omicron? does it need something like a full gram of solid?
    same with PG. can I load just a half or will it not wick up properly?
    has anybody tried the jack flower at frosty's?
    how about shatter in the omicron? Does it need to be heat softened? I see a jack shatter @ pgp that looks tempting but I need it for a pen. I have some gentleman carts...might they be better for shatter. (I was planning to return them after I see everybody saying they waste your product).
     
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  17. Chill Dude

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    Yeah, I had an occasional leaking problem with My Cera loaded with PG. I've been using "The Clear" loaded in My Cera for the last two weeks and no problems! The thicker consistency of "The Clear is a big plus.....

    I tried Ultimate OG last night. Effect wise, it was very potent and as the strain genetics suggest, it put me in a deep state of relaxation and I was comfortable numb for sure. Very effective for pain relief
    almost narcotic like. I wasn't super impressed with the taste. It was kind of earthy with a little pine OG spice, but the flavor was distant and weak. Also the vapor seemed a little thin for an OG....

    Jack Walker is now officially my best friend! Just took 3 monster hits and I'm feeling pretty fucking good. Did I mention this shit tastes awesome. JW is a very nice daytime choice...The perfect blend of pain killing indica along with a solid dose of Sativa inspired clarity and focus. Me like this!!

    So I'm flying over to Phoenix for a short business trip in a couple hours. I'm going to miss my oil, but I'm just too paranoid to travel with this shit. Fortunately, I have my OxyCodone for evening pain relief. Actually the only time I use Oxy is when I'm traveling and can't bring weed. It really shouldn't be that way...Shit man, I can take three big rips of Strawberry Cookies "The Clear" and have the same pain relieving effect as taking 10mg of Oxy.

    Sorry Space Case, I know nothing about Omicron stuff. I'm sure Caligua or somebody will chime in later....
     
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  18. Caligula

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    Have a good trip! I wouldn't fuck with MJ in AZ either. Pretty sure they make you break rocks for a few years if you're caught with any amount in that state.

    That being said, pure gold looks like vitamin E caps... Winkwink. I'm sure if u put those in a vit E jar or even a pill container, no one would bat an eyelash. Also they make oral gel caps as an edible.

    @Space Case I PMd u answers to your cart questions
     
  19. 2clicker

    2clicker up to my ears in clams Accessory Maker

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    i hate u guys with all of your options!:myday:
     
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  20. Caligula

    Caligula Maximus

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    So does my wallet
     
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  21. Denver912

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    I seen ads in a few weed mags here in denver saying the clear is on the way. I hope it's 50.00 a gram at most.
     
  22. Caligula

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    Probably not. Worth it to try @$60 here though!
     
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  23. Tsmit19420

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    what i know forsure is that the terpenes are first romoved then reintroduced after decarbing as for the extraction method im going to assume vacuum distillation/sublimation its the only solventless proccess that can allow you to evaporate the resin right from the bud at low temps and you can also isolate them seperately based on boiling points starting with the terpenes. ive heard that they all have similar tastes so its possible that terpenes extracted from other plants for use in perfumes and flavors could have been added they only say that it is not synthetically flavoured. there are many terpenes so if you added them afterwards youd likely only add the main ones wich would make them taste similar. but if they romoved the terpenes all in one go using the same proccesss for every strain then it is likely that similar terpenes would be extracted and minor more distinct terpenes gets left behind and destroyed in the decarb. after all some terpenes are extremely potent so there could be an incredibly small amount that vacuum distillation just isnt efficient enough to romove
     
  24. Caligula

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  25. Space Case

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    Tried the Jack Clear. Smooth taste and seems like minimal odor. Prefer it to PureGold and will probably use it instead. Can't say the effect is all that different from PG. Definitely a better experience but it could be just the taste that is far superior - have to give it more of a try-out. Wasn't super heady like most Jack flower. Will have to try more flavors in the interest of science.
    Works perfect with the omicron carts but did wick out a little between funnel and the top of the cart on filling. Not sure how to prevent that but it was probably minimal.
    How do you get the remainder out of the silicone? Freeze it? Now I am seeing the benefit of a shatter
     
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