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Cheap, high-quality bubbler??

Discussion in 'Glass' started by Bleezy, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. just_the_flu

    just_the_flu they say im crazy but i have a have a good time

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    ... from my expierence, the FC-710 is better than the 'rattle can'... i got my FC-710 from Steven and rattlecan from sunshine store (looked same as pic above with 18mm female joint)... my rattle can did not function as it should have- pretty sure there was no hole where the ball sits (the 'valve')...


    ... i ended up getting two fc-710's from steven because it worked much better than the one from sunshine store... :2c:
     
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  2. Roth

    Roth Pining for the Mountains

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    Interesting. I didn't find the FC-Rattlecan on the Sunshine Store site. Not sure if they don't have it anymore, or I just didn't look hard enough.

    There's just no way I'm going to force myself to deal with a male joint on my rig, so it automatically rules out the FC-710. I've heard lots of good things about Stephen's quality with the Rattlecan, and my knock off Mobius pieces I've ordered from him have actually been better quality than I expected to get.
     
  3. just_the_flu

    just_the_flu they say im crazy but i have a have a good time

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    ...i got the rattlecan from sunshine store in feb of 2016, i just looked at my history to make sure i wasn't making it up LOL!
     
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  4. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    What's the problem with a male joint? Just use an adapter. Performance of the FC 710 is awesome but the noisy rattling is a bit nerving.
     
  5. pxl_jockey

    pxl_jockey Barely-Known Member

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    All the glass blowers and buyers decided that in 2018, male joints were to no longer be deemed desirable to produce or as possession. @Hogni My dear sir, are you not registered with the Global Glass Congress? Didn’t you see the annual newsletter? They’re to be held in contempt until such time they experience a comeback and it’s determined that there’s money to be made. ;)

    I joke but honestly saw a few IG artists post to this effect last spring: No Male Joints in 2018!

    ALSO: so many great members here sharing experiences and insights here through the years, this thread is one of my faves. What a resource and document of the evolution of Cheap Reasonable Quality Glass!
    @Roth & @just_the_flu you guys are everywhere around here, helping others and contributing to the vibe. Bonus Karma Points awarded!
     
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  6. wildything

    wildything Well-Known Member

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    I have the FC-710 and use an adapter to make it female and add a drop down from thickassglass to lower the joint and get it further from my face. I do not have the newer rattle can from steven but I believe the perc functions the same as the FC-710 since they are both sold by Steven. Members here communicated with multiple sellers to ask for a rattle can but I'm not sure if anyone other than Steven was able to make the perc correctly due to the complexity of getting the ball in the bottom. I'm very happy with mine but did want to upgrade to the newer rattle can version but I can't justify it since the FC-710 is a great flavor saver!
     
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  7. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    So, either one would make a good dab rig? I thought dab rigs had male joints so expanding metal nails would not cause problems/breakages.
    Edit. My CF/x S/S WPA broke one of my cleisen adapters when it expanded.
     
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  8. pxl_jockey

    pxl_jockey Barely-Known Member

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    @LesPlenty at one time not long ago IIRC our resident glass master @mrbonsai420 recommended both FC-710 and rattle can as great in flavour department and solid choices for those shopping dagate. That dude has so much glass and experience, that statement was enough endorsement for me. Such cool thing for him to say, most people with $$$$$ in artisan heady glass would never say a kind word about China glass. Humble. Class. Maybe because he collects out of love/appreciation and not to impress, out of ego?

    When using SS or Ti nails, I thought that was one of the reasons to use adapters/drop downs? I’ve seen the M/M glass adapter recommended as great if you own female nails and protects the rig’s joint, this was from well experienced guys who only dab. Idk? Hopefully somebody smart pipes up! :D

    :peace:
     
  9. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Protection of joints + lowering the nail + increasing distance to the face/draw resistance + reclaim catching
     
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  10. Roth

    Roth Pining for the Mountains

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    I guess you could also ask the question, why would you want a male joint at this point in time?

    It's a hold over from the early days of dabbing, when people would heat up Ti "nails". They had a use/benefit back then, but that style of dabbing has quickly (and rightly) fallen out of favor.

    I could be wrong on this next point, as I've never personally owned a male jointed rig, so have never had to clean one up. But to me, it looks like a male jointed rig would be messier than a female jointed rig.

    It looks like reclaim would start to eventually build up on the lip of the male joint on the rig. Whereas with a female jointed rig, the reclaim would be inside the piece itself. More likely to catch dust, other debris when outside the rig itself.

    I did a quick and dirty paint drawing to illustrate. Red is vapor path, and the green is reclaim buildup.

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    Add in the fact that I don't want to have different adapters/drop downs for all my different glass, and the decision is easy for me.

    Is anything these days, besides old style nails, really made with a female joint to fit into a male jointed rig?



    Take a rip on the Flowerpot for me, I won't be back home to hit mine for a few weeks!



    PS: No male joints in 2018!!! j/k People enjoy what they enjoy, but I won't be buying a male jointed rig.
     
  11. ClearBlueLou

    ClearBlueLou unbearably light in the being....

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    I made a similar decision over a year ago, when I let my favorite iHS know that I would not be purchasing any straight-tube pipes of any kind in the future, and that I was standardizing everything to 14mm female joints. I told,them that if they wanted to sell me glass , that was how.

    As for how that ended up working, I got my first dab rig last month. 14mm female, twin barrel percs, curved neck. Haven’t used it yet, I expect it to freak out one of my roommates.

    And since this is the place for cheap, high-quality glass, the rig I picked is pretty freakin flawless...ALL the joins are beautifully done, couldn’t see them if you didn’t know, the entire thing is massive, it looks 4-5 mm throughout, and the wide flat base must be 7mm or more. It’s from thick-ass glass, and I’m assured that they’re a domestic gateway for high-end Chinese glass. Shipping very quick, very securely packaged.

    https://www.thickassglass.com/collections/oil-rigs/products/10-hammer-head-perc-side-car

    The only real downside to it is, it’s a big can. I guess this is where I milk it? Just fill the can with vapor, then pull the banger and take it all at once?
     
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  12. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Only have bubblers/rigs with female joints for that reasons myself (but prefer 18mm mostly used with a 14mm inline adapter). The FC 710 is the only one with a male joint cause it's the only version to get at Steven. Not lucky about but not such a problem when using a f->f adapter, or better downstem, on it. That's all I wanted to say.
     
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  13. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Nice. I've had my eye on that piece for a while. I like the double mai-tai model.
    Although, I'll only buy in in a no-logo model. I hate having brand-name logos predominantly displayed on my glass. Out of sight, like something small in a corner somewhere, or simply on the bottom is fine by me...but I don't like my stuff looking like a billboard advertisement.
     
  14. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    I agree, they should give a discount for the free advertising they get from it.:tup:
     
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  15. bizwaxzion

    bizwaxzion Enigmatic Cannabist

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  16. nosmoking

    nosmoking Fogmonger

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    This was my first daily driver after switching from bongs to bubblers. Its a great piece for flowers or dabbing IME. It only requires a little water (just over the perc) and it rips huge bubbles so theres not much flavor loss. I really like mine...my better half dropped it and broke the base only but its still running strong. Its a great piece! I am going to have to clean mine up and bring it back into rotation this weekend.
     
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  17. D32320

    D32320 Noob Saibot

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    I finally received my piece from Steven, and used it for a few hours before I noticed it actually has a leak. Seems like the base isn’t sealed correctly with the bottom perc. Such a shame because it truly is a pretty piece.

    On a more positive note, I received this as well from yingmin5.
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    This piece is pretty nice for the price, about $21.37.

    https://dhgate.com/product/new-small-portable-glass-bong-glass-smoking/415629248.html

    One thing to note is that the sizes on both of the rigs are slightly different than described. They are both 14mm, however the YingMin piece is closer to 7.5” or 20cm, not 8”. The Steven piece is closer to 21 cm, not 19cm.
     
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  18. felon167inc

    felon167inc Well-Known Member

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    Contact steven
    I received my first sidecar from him broken in the box, very good CS and replaced the glass unit straight away with quick post for me
     
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  19. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    I find they are usually taller than specified as they don`t bother to bend the neck piece very far.:tup:
    Popular glass are god sellers, get in touch with them about your problem.
     
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  20. D32320

    D32320 Noob Saibot

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    Yeah I’ve done business with them a few times, they are true professionals. They offered to replace it once I provide a video of the leak.
     
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  21. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    I can`t even upload a picture on DHGate unless I open a dispute, good luck with a video, don`t converse with any seller outside of the DHGate system, scammers might get you and DHGate forbid it too.:tup:
     
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  22. virtualpurple

    virtualpurple Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone come across a miniature version of the FC-ufo? I really enjoy it but I would be interested in seeing a smaller can version that still stayed a bit wide to keep the stability. Bonus points if there is one with removable perc.
     
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  23. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    That piece would be really nice! I'd be in at once.

    Up to then, I'll give the EHLE AKW a try next time

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    There also is a whip adapter available. A whip with mps too of course.

    H 150mm
    W 110 mm
    18 f joints

    103€
     
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  24. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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  25. felon167inc

    felon167inc Well-Known Member

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    yer do you have a link for this?
    Looks great
     
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