Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by mpiccorelli89, Oct 3, 2010.
btw the most tasteful mod for any subie is a roof rack.
PS: A simple stage 2 setup (turbo-back exhaust and software tune) will give you gains of 50+ horsepower and 75+ lb. ft. of torque.
Before anything else replace the factory air filter with a K&N or a quality cold air intake.
Do any of you get problems with K&N air filters? I had a 2006 GTI and the sticky oil from that filter actually started coating the inside of the throttle body and after about 14 months had destroyed it beyond cleaning/repair. It was not over oiled nor were there any other mechanical problems.
Since then I recommend cold air intake chargers with real filters, not washable oil impregnated ones like K&N.
From motorcycles to cars, two strokes and fours, never had a problem.
You used the red K&N spray can oil and it really messed up
I always wondered if that could happen... I guess it did.
I got my 2002 accord v6.. Although I must admit, I too have the Subaru love. For my next car Im thinking any sti under 06 or the 09 hatch. I didnt like the hatch when it first came out but after seeing some of them modded they really started to grow on me. Anyway.. heres the accord.
intake mods don't do much for most subies.
He's right. The STi intake is pretty well designed from the start and K&N filter replacements can cause issues with oil as the other poster mentioned. There really isn't any need to mess with it on all but the biggest mod jobs.
while i agree they are marked up quite a bit, they are def not about an "off the shelf" look.
AEV is creating the best off road vehicles on the planet bar none period. and they will do toyotas as well! if i wasnt driving a jeep id be driving a toyota truck or fj, but the new jeep JKs are designed sooooo well for off road use.
and you COULD NOT have anything that would perform anywhere near the level of an AEV custom JK for 3-4 grand. not possible unless your fabbing the parts yourself and making an engine yourself.
i know all about doing things yourself and all that... just look at the homemade vape thread but this is completely different.
AEV has put in SO MANY hours of research and development on their products its amazing. besides the price of those is nothing compared to some of the 200-300K trail rigs that are showing up on the trails everywhere these days. while a 6 cylinder will do you well on the trail, its not an 8. putting a 5.7L or 6.1L hemi in a JK may seem extreme to some, but it is essential to others.
and they arent about the "look" as much as the performance. maybe their customs dont look "big" enough, but they will outperform anything else available today. its all about staying as low to the ground as possible while running the largest tires possible. tire size is where the ground clearance is really gained. not lift size.
Same with the new Honda Si's. It seems like new cars really got intake systems down. I will say however that it is ALWAYS worth it to switch from MAF to MAP based tunes. I'm sure COBB will let you do that in a subie. You don't have a real tune if you are using a mass airflow sensor...period.
i pull out modified yj to jk and similar loads of times trying to follow me, but hey its cool. there is no perfect setup (i have the stucks to prove it ha!), driving skills are a big part of it. it can be done on the cheap but yes you need to do all the work yourself or have friends.
i didnt mean to say that any JK was top shit. just that the AEV custom rigs are top shit.
they will also do YJs! i just meant to say that 3-4 grand isnt going to get the the quality of rig that AEV provides. they do more testing on their products than anyone else. they have researchers developing the most demanding equipment. they have taken their vehicles to parts of the earth that NO OTHER vehicle has EVER gone.
so if you were to buy the AEV parts and install them all yourself you could really save some money thats for sure. and they will in fact sell it to you so that you can install it yourself. again though no other aftermarket suspension/protection/bodymods/wheels/tires/etc... is going to get you where AEV can get you.
AEV is pushing the industry like no other MFG.
can a 3-4K rig provide you with a great time? for sure! but it wont take you to the edges of the world in the most extreme conditions.
and your absolutely right about the driving skills. even the nicest most well equipped rig on the planet wont do much good if the driver is worthless...
what do you think about toyota trucks for wheeling?
top shit or bottom shit, its still shit! just messing.
i prefer open body type vehicles for woods riding and for me its strictly cj. nothing wrong with a moderately built toyota though, dependable and lightweight usually means its going on through it one way or another. bobbed or tubed out rear always looked cool on them to me, know a guy who has one and i usually have issues keeping up with his speed off-road (suspension is better than mine), im more of a slow poke.
once you have built and repaired and wheeled a lot of different things you figure out what works and what does not, specific models rarely apply its what you modify and how you drive it.
best of luck on getting a rig.
until my next purchase this is what im driving... although it doesnt see much other than concrete/pavement more often than not
31"s on 3" '01 XJ 4.0HO
My 2010 WB Jetta is getting an APR stage 1 tune tomorrow. HP increases to 257, torque increases to 303 ib ft. This is from 200 HP and 207 lb ft stock. Can hardly wait to see how much faster it will be.
1991 Cadillac ElDorado, 4.9 v8
IIRC the MAF is part of the emission control system. Without it you would fail your emissions test.
mass airflow sensors read the velocity of the air, while as a map sensor reads the pressure (PSI) of the manifold. in a turboed application a maf sensor is nearly worthless as the velocity of the air doesnt really change a whole lot, but the pressure in the manifold does by alot. so from a tuning standpoint, the map sensor will be alot more accurate in sensing how much air is going into the cylinders to adjust fuel mixtures accordingly.
Got a 300C SRT8 and an 96 Impala SS
I love me some 4 door boats that are fast.
APR stage I tune is awesome.
i have a 96 GMC suburban
edit: i like the new chevy trucks and aston martin DBS.
Honda S2000, Mini Cooper S, Honda Element and soon to be BMW R1200GSA.
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so then why are all new turboed subarus maf?
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