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Discussion in 'Cannabis News and Activism' started by vtac, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    people questioning why cannabis was illegal and banned has led to other questions... the moral break down of acceptance or not of a ( who's your daddy) type authoritative figure who have been lying just to serve a purpose while honest people seek truth. honest people just turn elsewhere for that truth... now it's blatantly obvious that cannabis has been demonized for political reasons plain and simple
     
  2. OldNewbie

    OldNewbie Well-Known Member

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    THAT is the political dimension in all of this. Who is in charge? The federal government or the states? I like federalism and the concept of each state being a laboratory of democracy. However, I have little patience for those who pick and choose which is or should be preeminent based upon if they agree or disagree with the results in that particular instance. Instead, if we get the process right, it should guide us to the best solutions in most cases.

    This case isn't quite that distinction. While federalism and anti-commandeering are related, they are not exactly the same thing. I think most agree the feds have some purview over drugs in the country. The states cannot overcome that with a federalism argument without really messing up huge bodies of law and practice for all drugs, supplements and any other pills, potions or powders consumed by us. But, this case tells the laboratories (aka states) they don't have to assist the feds with any fool idea they happen to come up with.
     
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  3. florduh

    florduh Well-Known Member

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    Didn't this ruling basically end any ambitions by the Feds to crackdown on Legalized States?

    Any move against them would result in multiple lawsuits, bolstered by a 7-2 SCOTUS decision.
     
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  4. OldNewbie

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    Only if the "crackdown" requires assistance from the state. The case did not challenge federal supremacy as it acknowledged the feds could make laws in regards to online betting. But, they could not force the state to help them enforce that law.

    The actual case had an extremely long and fact sensitive discussion on how in this case, the action had to be allowed due to commandeering. I didn't find the argument there that persuasive. (That commandeering took place.) Even though I like the black letter law reinforcement of the 10th amendment in the holding AND the expansive determination of what commandeering could be, it would depend on the form of any crackdown to know if it would even remotely apply.

    If the goal is to stop feds in black helicopters from rappelling down a line and burn the marijuana fields, the decision probably won't help much. If the goal is to stop the feds from demanding the state turn over its medical use database, the case should prevent that--absent agreement from the state.
     
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  5. florduh

    florduh Well-Known Member

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    @OldNewbie Thank you for clarifying. I think this is still modestly good news.

    But you bring up a good point. The Feds don't have enough "black helicopters" to storm every dispensary in the country. That would require local and State assistance. It sounds like this decision helps prevent that.

    However, the "crackdown" would likely just be a memo issued by the Justice Dept. The mere threat of strict enforcement could decimate the "legal" industry. So we still need new legislation from Congress to completely resolve this.
     
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  6. BabyFacedFinster

    BabyFacedFinster Capo di tutt'i capi

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  7. OldNewbie

    OldNewbie Well-Known Member

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    One problem in the industry is that many of the principals come from a place where following the law was not the first priority. Casual compliance can sometimes lead to problems in completely unexpected areas.

    https://mjbizdaily.com/lawsuit-lead...broke-federal-law-with-illegal-text-messages/

    One of the biggest facilitators of marijuana deliveries in California faces a possible class-action lawsuit that one Bay Area attorney says could threaten the company’s existence.

    Farrah Williams, of San Diego, filed suit against San Francisco-based Eaze Solutions on May 2, alleging the delivery business violated federal law by spamming her and other customers with unsolicited text-message marketing.

    Eaze is a technology company that is not licensed to engage in commercial cannabis activity but, rather, contends it acts as an intermediary by taking orders online from customers and facilitating deliveries from retail partners.

    The firm operates in more than 100 cities in California and has reached over 300,000 customers since its founding in 2014, according to the lawsuit.

    The company has raised $52 million – much of that through venture capital financing – and turned itself into a cannabis industry force.
    But Eaze’s status could be jeopardized if Williams’ lawsuit succeeds – although success isn’t a sure bet.

    The case also could have wide-ranging ramifications for an industry whose marketing avenues already are limited and heavily scrutinized.

    “The reality is that (Eaze) ‘growth hacked’ its way to the top of the pot delivery business – specifically, by relentlessly bombarding existing and prospective customers with text messages and other digital spam … without anyone’s permission,” the suit alleges...​
     
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  8. Polarbearboy

    Polarbearboy Tokin' Away Since 1968

  9. grampa_herb

    grampa_herb CO2 oil bigot

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    So true. Many of us do not have respect for the law because of our experiences with the law. A tiger doesn't change its stripes easily.

    The law sez my dispensary cannot reuse CO2 oil syringe containers for fear of marijuana residue, so....
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    interesting to note, the amount of stuff going into the landfill from Prop64 is rather prodigious, and we've barely scratched the surface with licensed and approved manufacturers and dispensaries (yeah, 5.5 months later, here we are) :(

    Will be nice when it can be packaged in biodegradable hemp plastic.

    I hate most of the CO2 oil dispensers now :( Huge ugly globs of plastic that wastes concentrate.

    Glass syringes, can be cleaned and sterilized for reuse at least, plus I can always get the last bits out before I recycle.

     
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  11. Helios

    Helios Well-Known Member

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