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Broken bamboo...fixable?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by tepictoton, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. tepictoton

    tepictoton Well-Known Member

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    I guess pictures say it all...a silly push to the table and the machine falling on it's side was all that was needed for it to snap of...

    I am wondering if i can just put the torch to it...or should I worry bout damaging the connection point to the heater?

    Maybe another member has a spare bamboo laying around? Dunno if that would even be possible.

    Maybe some type of heat resistant glass glue? like for oven doors and such?

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  2. olivianewtonjohn

    olivianewtonjohn Well-Known Member

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    I ran into this same problem. Here are the possible solutions I was able to think of:
    -If the joint fits back together and makes a seal (broke clean off); you could try tracking down that grey glue that they used and put alot over it. I believe its a type of fireplace cement
    -Very carefully cut the heater off, have a glass blower repair it and then use a heater mat like this one:
    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-heater-mods.12014/

    You wont be able to torch it with the heater on since that would definitely lead to the ceramic heater breaking.
  3. Caligula

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    @herbivore21 whats that stuff you use to fix glass called again?
  4. olivianewtonjohn

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    Keep in mind if anything is used around the heater it needs to be able to withstand like 600-800+ degrees. When searching for adhesives almost nothing could handle the heat it makes (except furnace cement and a few others). That heater gets really hot to heat the air in the tube to vaporizing temperatures
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  5. Caligula

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    I thought about that. Pretty sure the epoxy he uses is good for high temp. I may be thinking about something else though.

    Edit: its called Hxtal, and I cant find diddly on the heat ranges its good for after curing. Uncured its flammable though... so probably not the droid you're looking for.
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  6. herbivore21

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    It is heat resistant to unknown high temperatures. Basically, if properly cured (curing just refers to the epoxy drying) you can certainly repair broken glass and it will withstand similar high heats to glass itself. Remember, this stuff is designed to be used to repair broken glass, and is safe to both eat off and vape/combust through. I was recommended the product by a glassblower who only works with smoking paraphernalia.

    They are serious about the slow curing times though, dry the stuff for a good 2-7 days! This looks like exactly the kind of job to use hxtal for!
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  7. olivianewtonjohn

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    Thats incredible!
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  8. tepictoton

    tepictoton Well-Known Member

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    okay, will give that a try if i can find the stuff over here in europe....

    Found it...will cost me 55euros for 40gr...sure seems like it might be worth it.
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  9. tepictoton

    tepictoton Well-Known Member

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    Hmm just checked the bamboo again, and even if I position it just right on top, air escapes somewhere if I blow into the bamboo from below keeping it closed on top...

    So no I doubt the epoxy will be usefull. Last hing I want to have is strange epoxy in the airpath I guess...? Anybody?
  10. olivianewtonjohn

    olivianewtonjohn Well-Known Member

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    How much is a bamboo straight from vapexhale? Maybe you could carefully get the heater off your current setup and put it on a new bamboo. I really wish they designed it to be more repair friendly like the 7th floor products, kinda ridiculous.

    Or carefully cut the heater off then have glass blower fix the bamboo. Then I could even send you the heater, just pay shipping. To put a new heater in you'll need to solder 4 wires (2 for the heater, 2 for the temp sensor)
  11. tepictoton

    tepictoton Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea how to get the heater off. It is cemented in with this grey stuff...appreciate the offer though...
  12. olivianewtonjohn

    olivianewtonjohn Well-Known Member

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    The grey stuff I believe is furnace cement or something similar. It's a job for a dremel or rotary tool but not a very easy task since you could cut into the glass. Just throwing ideas out there, you have to feel comfortable doing any of these fixes. Please keep us updated with what you do

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