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Black Leaf 'Steely Dan' SS Grinder

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by Skunkport, Aug 2, 2018.

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  1. Skunkport

    Skunkport Well-Known Member

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    I ran across this looking at stainless steel grinders, it's the cheapest SS one I've seen by some way, especially for Europeans since it's from Germany.

    https://blackleaf.de/shopware.php?sViewport=detail&sArticle=1390

    The shop doesn't take cards unfortunately, I had to pay by bank transfer. I ordered and paid on Thursday, I received confirmation on Tuesday and the grinder was delivered today, Thursday again, pretty good considering the bank transfer took 2-4 days.

    The grinder is available in 2 or 4 piece configurations, 39mm, 49mm,59mm diameters and either a velvet bag or a small zippered case.
    It arrived very well packaged indeed along with a selection of stickers.

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    The case is semi-rigid and textured like carbon fibre, sturdy and well padded, with a logo on top and a Black Leaf logo on the padding inside the lid.

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    The grinder itself has a logo on the top which seems to be engraved somehow, and a machined finish. It feels nice and solid in the hand.
    The top is held on by a magnet and has a roughly 1mm wider diameter for the top half of it's height which helps to lift it off easily.
    The next section has a thin plastic 'slider' ring which seems fixed in place to reduce friction. The teeth are an elongated diamond shape with slight curves and the holes into the collection chamber are a regular size.

    The next section requires 2.5 rotations to open, the threads seem precise and solid. The sides slope down to a mesh kief screen which does not appear to be replaceable.
    The kief chamber also needs 2.5 rotations to open, it's nicely smooth and the edge is rounded where the base meets the walls.


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    There were some tiny metal shavings evident, so I cleaned the whole grinder with iso and swabs (no oil found, just a few bits of metal) then boiling water before letting it dry for testing.


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    The top went on easily and the reasonably sharp teeth sliced through the bud with ease although some bits were left in the top compartment.

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    The grind is an almost perfect joint grind, finely chopped and fluffy rather than powdered, this would have been awesome to roll with and is just right for big hits in my vapcap.
     
  2. grampa_herb

    grampa_herb Epstein didn't kill himself

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  3. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Yeah, load me a demon lung and I'll be alright now

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  4. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Yeah, load me a demon lung and I'll be alright now

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    Well these are around for some time,i plan one getting the smallest/cheapest one :D at some point. There are two series (i think) one is classic black leaf,other is named Steely Dan :D (lol) ... The difference is in the packaging .Steely dan comes with a ziplock case and BL logo ones come with a velvet pouch.
    Material: Stainless Steel
    Color: silver
    Print: Steely Dan, Black Leaf Logo
    System: Diamond-cut Teeth
    Supplies: Zip Bag
    Warranty: Lifetime Guaranty
    They got few sizes both 2 pieces and 4 piece.
    Smallest one is 39mmx15mm (can be found for 20 euro if you dig around)
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    http://www.neardark.de/en/equipment/grinders/black-leaf-steely-dan-edelstahl-grinder-2-tlg.html
    http://www.neardark.de/en/equipment/grinders/bl-edelstahl-grinder-2-tlg.html
    And they have big ones 4 pieces up to 59mm diameter .
    http://www.neardark.de/en/equipment/grinders/bl-edelstahl-grinder-4-tlg-16871.html
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    After a quick search i see that prices are varying a lot at different place. If you after one i suggest you dig around before buying one.
    https://www.head-shop.de/Headshop/Black-Leaf-Edelstahl-Grinder-zweiteilig---59mm-A.12679-
     
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  5. AtomicPB

    AtomicPB Well-Known Member

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    Hey @Abysmal Vapor, I saw the Steely Dan at VDNM and was always curious about it but actually didn't want to spent money on Grinders anymore after importing a Santa Cruz Shredder a while back.

    I am really interested in a report once you had the chance to test your new Grinder. :wave:Was always interested in Stainless Steel Grinders but too cheap to get one. :D
     
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  6. tepictoton

    tepictoton Well-Known Member

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    If you get their 'matrix' model you even get the 'trapezeum' teath also known from Santa cruz ...

    Should be a thread about it somewhere on here....

    SS might be a nice one too of course
     
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  7. dimmusp

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    Any more reviews about this grinder?
     
  8. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Yeah, load me a demon lung and I'll be alright now

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    I have the black leaf version ! Dont waste your time with the smaller ones, get the two piece 59mm. It grind nicely,if i have anything to complain about is the stupid texture ,there are ring channels in the same direction rotation happens,and it makes grip a bit hard when your hands are sweaty. Checkout vapo-city.de they got 11% for newly registered. Got mine below 20 euro,worth every damn penny. It is damn heavy and looks like it is going to last a few lifetimes :). That other NV desined in austria grinder also looks sweet,it has fewer teeth and looks liek they have secured a better grip for grinding,but it is twice the price and i dont know if it is really worth it. Designed in Austria means made in China also :D..
    @dimmusp
    I should have posted a review when i got it but i forgot about. The teeth are razor sharp be careful not to cut your fingers. Just do a couple of rotations cause on the 4th things get a bit too fine for some vaporizers. 1 time it is still fluffy,2 times just right. Hope this helped somehow with your choice. The blackleaf version comes with a pouch the steely dan with a zip case.But the blackleaf is more forgiving on the logo. I highly recommend those guys. One of the best prices on vapes in the EU and service is high quality !(A friend snagged a plenty for 169 euro recently and this is the price all year around. )
    https://www.vapo-city.de/navi.php?a=6216&lang=en
    https://www.vapo-city.de/navi.php?a=5878&lang=eng
    https://www.vapo-city.de/Stainless-Streel-Grinders
     
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  9. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Yeah, load me a demon lung and I'll be alright now

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    Hey guys sorry for the late reply ! I will post my thoughts also here as i did in the steely dan thread. @AtomicPB @tepictoton
    I have the black leaf version ! Dont waste your time with the smaller ones, get the two piece 59mm. It grind nicely,if i have anything to complain about is the stupid texture ,there are ring channels in the same direction rotation happens,and it makes grip a bit hard when your hands are sweaty. Checkout vapo-city.de they got 11% for newly registered. Got mine below 20 euro,worth every damn penny. It is damn heavy and looks like it is going to last a few lifetimes :). That other NV desined in austria grinder also looks sweet,it has fewer teeth and looks liek they have secured a better grip for grinding,but it is twice the price and i dont know if it is really worth it. Designed in Austria means made in China also :D..

    I should have posted a review when i got it but i forgot about. The teeth are razor sharp be careful not to cut your fingers. Just do a couple of rotations cause on the 4th things get a bit too fine for some vaporizers. 1 time it is still fluffy,2 times just right. Hope this helped somehow with your choice. The blackleaf version comes with a pouch the steely dan with a zip case.But the blackleaf is more forgiving on the logo. I highly recommend those guys. One of the best prices on vapes in the EU and service is high quality !(A friend snagged a plenty for 169 euro recently and this is the price all year around. )
    For under 20 euro with the discount it is a steel , i meant a steal :D ! I will never go back to other materials.
    https://www.vapo-city.de/navi.php?a=6216&lang=en
    https://www.vapo-city.de/navi.php?a=5878&lang=eng
    https://www.vapo-city.de/Stainless-Streel-Grinders
     
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  10. dimmusp

    dimmusp Active Member

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    Wow, thank you! Way better prices than directly from Black Leaf!

    59mm 4-part stainless steel grinder:
    - Vapo-City: €35.89 (https://www.vapo-city.de/navi.php?a=6213&lang=eng)
    - Black Leaf: €54.50 (https://blackleaf.de/en/bl-stainless-steel-grinder-4-part)

    59mm "Steely Dan" 4-part stainless steel grinder:
    - Vapo-City: €49.99 (https://www.vapo-city.de/navi.php?a=5880&lang=eng)
    - Black Leaf: €79 (https://blackleaf.de/en/bl-steely-dan-stainless-steel-grinder-4-part)

    Are there any performance differences between the "Steely Dan" and non-"Steely Dan" versions? Or is it just the logo and case? According to the specs in the Black Leaf page, the non-Steely Dan is 42 mm tall while the Steely Dan is shorter at 38 mm :hmm:

    What do you mean when you say that "the blackleaf is more forgiving on the logo"?

    Is having fewer teeth a good or a bad thing?

    I just noticed that the Steely Dan version of the Black Leaf grinders seem to have fewer teeth than the non-Steely Dan ones:

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  11. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Yeah, load me a demon lung and I'll be alright now

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    @dimmusp
    Sry for late reply again. I was told by the seller teeth are identical .You are probably looking at different sizes. By more forgiving i meant it is smaller :),just two letters.
    Having fewer teeth makes grind coarser . Which means you proably have more control,cause it is easy to over do it with the BL 59mm ,anything more than 3 turns and it gets too fine for my preference,but i like coarser in general. If you are the lazy type i dont overfiddle with your tools,then it is perfect.If you are the guy that like rotating on forever,get fewer teeths.
     
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  12. pakalolo

    pakalolo Toolbag v1.1 (candidate) Staff Member

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