Best of the Vapman thread

Discussion in 'Best Of' started by Rmpl Stltskn, Mar 11, 2009.

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  1. u bwade wunner

    u bwade wunner Well-Known Member

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    Man go easy on the of- he's a Vapor Jedi round these parts and has helped many as You have yourself..be nice man.;)



    Vapman is a vape You can take out to your moms place for a BBQ and not be too bothered using if around a table with folks and I have many times.the natural look,the tiny scale, and precision feel of this tiny little vaporizer goes unnoticed really quickly mostly.It can become a focal point in company briefly but folks leave intrigued and positive from their experience of it after You offer it to them.
    The lotus is an occasional vape for me nowadays.

    hits can be however You like it thick or light and very flavoursome on the first inhalations,very short airpath and no waiting around.I need that.its a manual vape.you control the heat of the device,it's simple. And once You get it down you will miss the vapman if it's not there.its my go to mostly purely for it sedative conduction hits.too much sticky slab as a kid I think.i find it mimics those effects well.

    My favourite vapman vid or one of them,

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    You can load it with a slurpee straw if you like,no need for the ring but I use it sometimes.only other thing is a tiny brush to dislodge the herbcake after roasting it.i get 5 or so hits from a load first three are super flavoursome to flavoursome then last two dwindle to coffee colour grounds .the last hits are the hits that really work for me though.Im sure I could get more,that's just how if works for me.then I reload and it's back to flavour city yum.

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  2. steama

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    I love the Lotus and the Vapman and would not be without either. That said I use my Vapman more. My Vapman is my most unique vaporizer and produces the most unique vapor. It is my only conduction vaporizer and somehow it has become my favorite. I also feel that although a person usually has early success in using Vapman it takes sometime, with use, to truly master. You must become one with the copper crucible to get the best performance. Using my Vapman is like walking a familiar path in the woods, after a awhile you know what is around the next bend. The entire Vapman process has become very relaxing for me.

    The Vapman is so unique that I cannot reliably say if a person will enjoy it as I do.

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  3. steama

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    It sounds like you are coming along just fine.

    Try these tips.

    Here is some information of flame adjustments and heating times from the Vapman website:
    Flame approx. 10 mm: 5-6 seconds
    Flame approx. 15 mm: 3-4 seconds
    Flame approx. 20 mm: 2-3 seconds

    Adjust your flame to be longer, and instead of heating 4 to 6 times of 2-3 seconds (with pauses) try to bring it down to heating 2 times by heating it longer and less pauses. Don't be afraid to push the heat envelope a little so you can develop a strong understanding what is too much flame and what is too little — soon you will be hitting it just right. Hash does need more heat than weed. For learning the Vapman I would personally stick to herb until I had my technique down better but that is just me.

    Also, don't be too concerned with visible vapor when you take your first draw. I don't have hardly any visible vapor on my early draws but it sure tastes good.

    As far as cleaning your concentrate screen goes I would only soak it in ISO and take care not to deform the screen. Also the concentrate screen does not make the Vapman a convection vape. The types of heat that are happening are conduction and radiant. For a heat source to be convection air flow is required.

    You can vape tobacco in the Vapman. The Vapman is one of the best vapes that can help you quit smoking. Personally, I would never cross contaminate an herb vaporizer with tobacco. I would have a separate one for herb and one for tobacco.

    Good luck friend

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  4. OF

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    You're using boiled linseed oil, right? That's the traditional wood finish although you can get raw versions as well.....they take much longer to dry. Which is why they 'boil' it. It doesn't boil as much as gets cooked in an oxygen free way. This makes "Stand oil", an intermediate step that's sometimes used as is.

    Modern boiled linseed oils are further processed with metal salts to dry even faster. These same salts are also available as "Japan dryer" and similar to further enhance this effect. This increases the tendency to 'cross link' (turn into plastic basically). Using modern boiled oils 2 days at normal temperatures (and humidity) is a good number to work with.

    Long ago, Lead salts were used for this, modern dryers use less toxic metals for a number of reasons.

    BTW, "oil based" paints do the same thing since it's basically the same thing going on (which is why you can't wash it off the wall with 'paint thinner'.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linseed_oil

    Check out "Stand oil" and "Boiled Linseed Oil" about 2/3 of the way down.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_drying_agent

    A good description of drying agents, IMO.

    Regards.

    OF

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  5. VAPEHUNTER

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    I used "boiled Linseed oil" and I think I learned to post pictures:). They are crappy phone pictures but I think they get the point across. I want to use this weekend but I may just leave it to polymerize over the weekend instead. I'll post more pictures when I reassemble it.
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  6. VAPEHUNTER

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    Mine (oiled with "boiled" Linseed oil) seems to be doing fine. It feels dry to the touch but still has a hint of oil smell so I think I will give it at least another day before I try using it. It feels dry so I decided to go ahead and put it back together.

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  7. steama

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    More on oiling your Vapman. The first thing to know is you don't need to oil your Vapman to maintain it. The manufacturer uses special linseed oil because the pure linseed oil does not dry 100%. I do not know if the special linseed oil was boiled but I got the impression the oil Vapman uses contains drying agents.

    I temporarily damaged a middle section of my pearwood Vapman. Beware — oils and waxes can be a problem for your Vapman. Beware of oiling or waxing your Vapman's middle section as most oils or wax like beeswax will never dry and will leak and sweat out continuously when your Vapman gets hot. I have made it my personal policy not to apply any oil or wax to the filter assembly middle section.

    I contacted the manufacturer and they said to remove the excess oils or waxes soak the middle section in acetone as this will not harm the wood (this is also mentioned in the user manual). The heat protection mica section should not be cleaned (it will ruin it).

    I saved my over oiled pear wood middle section by soaking it in acetone.

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  8. u bwade wunner

    u bwade wunner Well-Known Member

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    I love experimenting with this little guy.I was chilling last night in front of haven caressing the contours of the vapman content as I drifted off to sleep,as you do half way through a show with the vapman:D


    It's been Two weeks or so using that I/2 stainless screen I made for herb in my vapman.

    What I can say:
    Flavour and vapor is improved and heat seems perfectly balanced,it all feels...and I don't want to big up,but it's a bit magical.
    I'm experiencing no char until the last moment unlike before.it was in the background after the first few hits.

    My method of heat is 4,1,4 seconds & hit then 4.pack is reasonably tight.

    I was thinking, never a good thing;)...Without the screen the herb is directly in contact with the crucible.good vapor no doubt but as I say I did notice charring taste on the herb quite early on.I got used to that having used the mflb before the vapman.My way to deal with the degrading taste was to disassemble,remove the mouthpiece bit stir my material with the peg on the mouthpiece to move darker roasted herb sitting against the crucible and mix it into the greener less heated herb., I feel that the vapor from those darker herb grains were contributing to my tickly cough.

    So With the screen installed the herb sits suspended above the crucible in a springy stainless hammock the air pocket between the two is allowing more convection and is grilling the herb.more so than frying the herb.

    I'm really liking it.no stirring necessary,much more even heat and the inner surface of the crucible is staying clean.i had some black spots developing on the inner surface of the crucible before which was a concern.herb sticking and combusting I think.funny though I can't seem to shift it with ISO.its a delicate area so I didn't want to exert too much force.

    The vapman holds a little less with the screen..I'm getting straight to visible vapor from the first hit.I get 3- 5 big clouds on a fill and then I notice the char taste.when I remove the mouthpiece to examine I'm finding perfectly even brown avb .my vapman is more intuitive now hmmm.i get the best flavour till the last hit which let's me know to refill

    The screen stays put when I empty too.it catches on the notch in the crucible column and stays there.

    I will write a note to vapman today and see what he thinks.will let You all know..

    A worthy experiment I think especially for a lazy Sunday.drive a nail or skewer through a 1/2 screen ,dome the screen enough so it's just off the crucible,fill on top of the screen and enjoy.

    I won't go on waffle,waffle, :)but I just felt I had to mention it to people who like to tinker and mod.im having a blast.

    I will say this about the vapman to finish.

    I leave my vapman for a few days and use other units. when I return to it it knocks me for 6.its the smallest of my vapes but it medicates me so fully I can't leave it for long...great late night vape,gets you sleepy,horizontal and also medicates you're muscles and limbs perfectly I find.a great vape if You need to belt yourself quickly and hard if the stress monster appears.shopping trips for me are :disgust::lol:

    Have a peaceful Sunday folks.

    Btw I'm intrigued by the charring going on in this thread and I think vapman is too.

    Char-char
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    Stay tuned for a little vapman porn:)....

    Edit:an older one plugged with a walnut stem from MFLB

    the MFLB stem was washed in clothing & subsequently trapped inside my washing machine for 6 months or so.you can see the divits in the stem between the grains.but it survived all that time jammed inside the washer filter.gotta love wood.

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  9. vapmanjoe

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    I think i better post a Video because pictures say more than thousand words. Keep in mind that this is the secon bowl, the station is still warm and heats up faster than at the beginning. The instructual manual states that the station works basically with the same temperature. The different temperature settings only have an influence on the length of the cycling process. When the station is cold, first you see a red light, after 30-45 sec the lighter turns orange and you can put the vapman onto the station, then it starts to blink. After 10-15 sec the light turns green and you can start drawing. If you put the vapman onto the station again it blinks orange, again ready to use and so on.
    It starts with 2-3 tasty, almost invisible draws till you get some thicker hits. From the second bowl on you could use it with at least two vapmans in rotation as you see the heating cycle is pretty fast.
    I tried it with herb, hash and wax. I feel it gives you the same tase and quality of vapor like with the lighter. Really nice! I'm perfectly satisfied.

    I'm looking forward to see you people get your stations soon to share some nice experience...

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