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balloon vaporizer - which one to buy

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by btka, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

    7th heaven - 666th pit (EU)
    @Used2use I feel like spamming the thread already ,so i would stop. In my book 30mm bowl isnt a great thing. The abv from the EQ is pretty even.
    The Volcano is just a heatgun with a valve system into a blender body,you can see videos of the OG vriptech digital steinel heatgun setup if you like noisy as hell.. Sorry my language skills are bit off ,obsolete might not be the best word,i meant mostly outdated.
    BBQ will never get obsolete too,it is really easy to do and convenient ,but i prefer not smelling smoke and using the electric stove,i also prefer using my induction stove over the classic one.
    Cheers to everybody and have a good one :p !
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  2. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

    Well i like large bowls ;) and i only have a VapormaticDeluxe as 2. 'bag vape' comparison. It's almost as good as the volcano design wise on the outside imo :brow: and the bags have a nice pattern on it :lol: but i only blew 2 bags with it (that's noisy af:D)- definitive a vape that is better used for decoration than vaping :rofl:
    I don't like bags to much for solo use, but for a group of people bags are the most 'social' way to vape imo bc everyone gets the same amount of terps and taste - honestly a big problem with most other vapes, only one gets the first terpy draws that way...
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  3. arb

    arb Well-Known Member

    Solo,duo or group I find my volcano handles it all exceptionally well.
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  4. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

    You know I love you @Abysmal Vapor . I think your posts are some of the most interesting on this forum.

    Seriously, I enjoy so much of what you put up...thanks pal.

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  5. VaporWare

    VaporWare Well-Known Member

    I don’t have one, but it sounds to me like a Tubo Evic may be a good option for you. No, it’s not a bag system, but you can hold it or use a whip, and you can put it in wattage mode where you hold the button down to get the heater going or temperature control mode where you can just set it aside and keep drawing off the whip without holding anything else.

    From what I hear, it can produce desktop class vapor in a (somewhat large) portable body. Again, I haven’t used it myself, but if a whip system would meet your needs and you don’t want to connect one to your glass and try to use your FP that way, the Tubo is at least worth looking into.
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  6. ginolicious

    ginolicious Well-Known Member

    Man I love bags. I think everyone should have a bag vaporizer haha. They are so much fun. Especially in a group setting.

    Personally I stick to my guns. Vapir Rise 2.0. Does both whips and bags.

    I own a little bit of everything. Haze Square, Haze Dual, and the Rise. Gotta cover all the basis.
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  7. ViCKi LEEKX

    ViCKi LEEKX Fuck Vaporizer Combustion

    Totally agree - bag vapes are ideal for groups.

    They give desktop power with a bit of added range and a whole lot of convenience. No first hit drama, no parts that are easy to break when dropped (or thrown), easy to teach buddies how to operate most units so you don’t have to hover over it at parties, everyone can inhale their preferred size hit, can DIY ideal bag size and even have multiple bags going at once, etc. If someone can’t understand “just put it to your mouth and inhale” it might be time for them to chill on the hits anyway.

    In the time since I bought my Volcano in 2011-12 I got too old and married to want to run a party house, but my Volcano has been in that type of usage for its whole lifespan. Now it lives in a party house full of bartenders who use it constantly and it still performs as well as it did when it was new.

    Sure it’s loud, but especially in a group/house party situation who cares? If it survives years of insanity, the vapor goes down better than smoking, and it gets everyone high AF I consider it a win.

    I’ve used the hell out of it solo as well, but even as a heavy user I would probably prefer a more efficient and less noisy vape if I had to choose only one for personal use. My Glass Symphony and FlowerPot are great for me in that aspect, but my friends are scared to operate them, and I’m always a bit nervous about someone knocking over the glass with the coil cord.
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  8. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

    Nothing beats a bag for a complete newbie. It is not scary or wild looking it is just a bag of cloudy vapor.

    On the idea of something being obsolete. How can something be obsolete when it does exactly as it was designed to do, built to last easily for many years, and currently leads the vape bag category?

    That is called success not obsolescence.

  9. little maggie

    little maggie Well-Known Member

    What would be perfect for you? I think the fury 2 is a great small one but if I could only have 1 vape of all I own or have tried it would be the tubo. It has great vapor and I forget how powerful it is when I use anything else for a while. I think it's close to perfect.
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  10. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

    The Vapor Trail
    I agree 100%.
    I have the:
    1. Zephyr Ion
    2. Herbalaire
    3. Herbalizer
    4. Super Silver Surfer
    5. Vapir One
    6. Vapir Rise
    7. Vivape
    8. Extreme Q
    9. Volcano
    I love each, and each has a place in my rotation.... but I do not use all with bags.
    For bags, the Volcano still outdoes them all.
    Faster....Thicker Vapor.... and better experience.
    Remember... we are talking about "Balloon Vaporizers" here!
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2018
  11. virtualpurple

    virtualpurple Well-Known Member

    @btka I third the tubo. The tubo is incredible. I prefer it to just about all else. It churns out thick vapor and huge clouds. It can microdose or it can handle a ton. It can be used on demand or you can set it to cruise mode and have a nice 10 minute session. It is 100% convection so it only cooks as you draw. Vapor is a little harsh through the stem at higher temps but the whip is more my style when I want to sit back and relax on the couch. I pop it on the cruise mode and let myself melt down. I unfortunately am far away from mine but on my next trip home I’m making room in the suitcase to take back with me!
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  12. habitat-fc

    habitat-fc Member

    I haven't tried it but what about the Valloon by Vriptech? Has anyone tried this bag vape? As the owner of this company is considered one of the leading experts on vaporisation in the world so wouldn't this be up there as one of the best?
    I consider the Volcano to be outdated I have one but it is obsolete since I got my more efficient vapes, but surely there are more efficient bag blowers by now then the Volcano? I mean it is old and surely technology has increased in this area?
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  13. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

    The Vapor Trail
    I had one here, but gave it to a patient withing a couple of weeks of receiving it.
    It was not easy to use, and required 2 handed operation.
    All Hot air guns can produce vapor, but this was complex, and I did not find the vapor to be satisfactory enough for the work needed to "get there".
    That is why it is listed as retired on my signature.
  14. btka

    btka Well-Known Member

    can you maybe compare the tubo evic to fury2 and splinter...
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  15. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

    The Vapor Trail
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  16. btka

    btka Well-Known Member

    you are right uncle vitolo ;)
    then maybe @little maggie can you p.m. me
    thank you!
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  17. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

    I have a Volcano and have absolutely no plans to sell it.

    I agree with the above comment that for those people who are new to vaping, and in particular new med patients in the list of expanding med legal states who don't have a prior background in rec MJ, the Volcano is non-threatening looking, easy to use, and extremely consistent in operation.

    I have a number of other vapes so the Cano is not used all that regularly, but while older and also not running a "party house", I do have the occasional dinner party and nothing beats passing around a Cano bag. Easy, no technique or instructions really required, and I can dial up vapor density as I wish by adjusting temp (well, for the most part).
  18. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

    The Vapor Trail
    While I listed my "balloon vapes, and said I loved the Volcano best... part of that came from maintenance and cleaning also (and the time you can let it go between)... it does not mean I do not love the others... I am strictly speaking from a patient/performance standpoint.
    Proof of that is in this Zephyr Ion Video;
    Click to play YouTube Video
  19. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

    So Cal
    Vito, WOW!

    That's crazy! :)

    Ok, so my 1st venture into vaping was the original Herbalaire, which Bohdan (original designer, owner) upgraded to a v2.2 gratis :)

    I used it for flower, concentrate, and greased up flower.

    I had more visitors back then, so filling a bag was just convenient.

    It is convenient, but not as smooth as from a whip, and then over time you have to decide what to do with the bags that have a sticky layer of resin coating the insides (vapor condensates!).
    (Everclear wash for reclaim?)

    The Herbie worked great for this, they can even fill as much as 5 bags at once if you're having a big party.

    After 10+ years of great service, I gifted it to my brother (along with the pump, Hydratube, TonG adapter), it's still kickin' butt.

    I replaced that Herbie with a new Elite with the high output pump.
    The one thing to note is that you can't get the Herbie hotter than about 410F (with indexing in play).
    But at that temp, it works pretty damn stellar.

    I still have my Herbie Elite, but most of what I use are the newer 'palm-vapes', similar to the Tubo Evic.
    With these you have a selection of MODs to pick from, as well as atomizers to use on them.
    My last pick was an eLeaf Invoke 220W, I use my Divine Tribe (@divinetribe) atomizers on it, good stuff.
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  20. oddjobold

    oddjobold 510 Vaporist

    +1 Arizer EQ.

    Had a EQ and a volcano. Volcano is better at bags. However its not that much better, and does not deserve the price tag. Volcano bags are self sealing, EQ bags are not. Sure you could figure out a stopper for the EQ bags. EQ is way more versatile with whip options, DDave mods and comes with a remote. Its at a bargain price and you get loads for your money. Would not buy a volcano again, but if i could buy a desktop vape EQ would be high on my list
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  21. Cheesequake

    Cheesequake Well-Known Member

    If you can find a good deal on a Zephyr Ion it can't really be beaten. I just snagged one on ebay for $60 and it works great. Deals go up like that on ebay pretty often it seems like.
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