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Athlete Vaporists?

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by Vapinghole, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. SmDeox

    SmDeox Member

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    DAMN .7 is a good dose. Have you monitored the effects of different strains on your runs?
    When I was doing longer distances green crack was my go to. It didn't motivate me to do exercise, but like you were saying it kind of locked me into zone. I'm really really curious on how different strains play out but unfortunately I can't just go to a dispensary and get a gram of each to try.


    MJJ+Tennis didn't work out at all but it was amazing at night... muscle soreness, relaxation, etc. The 3 on the team from Europe swore by speed for matches... which was hilarious since they were all from different countries.
     
  2. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    Once I get everything else prepared and out of the way (Half cup of strong coffee, Running cloths on, Music lined up, Foot grease applied to prevent chaffing, sneakers tied just so)..... I vape and stretch at the same time with my running music on setting the tone and getting my mind right.

    I tend toward smaller and more hits when I'm getting ready to run. I take a hit leaving enough lung space for deep breathing techniques into the stretch, relax into that single stretch and finally exhale. Rinse and repeat for the next stretch. By the time I complete the stretch routine I'm buzzed, warmed up, loose and my mind is right.

    Some folks meditate ... running does the same for me when I do the above. By the time I hit the 20 minute mark in the run I've got the runner's high melding with the MJ buzz, and coffee buzz and mentally I'm not even running anymore. Everything except running takes control of my thoughts and it's common for me to 'come out of it' and not remember parts of the run. I barely hear most of the music by that point. Mostly it's the beat. I know these kind of runs can be made up of garbage miles since my beats per minute are not being monitored nor pushed and I'm also not worrying about pace but mentally it's a 'I really needed that' clearing of the mental bullshit.

    Occasionally I still seriously train for something but that's a whole different mental game.
     
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  3. HighSeasSailor

    HighSeasSailor Well-Known Member

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    I, uh, mistyped that.

    My typical dose is 0.07g. 0.7g would be a crazy big pre-run toke! Might be fun but probably not great for speed!

    I tend to favor indica or hybrid strains; for early day I prefer a hybrid for obvious reasons, but I still like some indica effects in there. I personally don't find it all that "depressive" in effect but more loosening. Goes great with a foam roller.
     
  4. GetLeft

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    I have the greatest stretches following a session. Everything just flows the way it's supposed to. I just follow along for the ride. Always feels great.
     
  5. sanfranciscosadhu

    sanfranciscosadhu Well-Known Member

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    I teach yoga for a living and have a steady personal practice. I can totally testify to the fact that cannabis makes it easier and far more enjoyable to stretch and open the body up.
     
  6. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Recently read about "canna-yoga" classes somewhere where folks are encouraged to imbibe before attending.
    Do they drug test??? No canna, no class ;)
     
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  7. sanfranciscosadhu

    sanfranciscosadhu Well-Known Member

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    Cannabis enhanced yoga classes are nothing new in the Bay Area in Northern California. Probably in other MJ friendly places as well I would presume. Here in San Francisco we have a yoga teacher Dee Dussault who teaches ganja yoga classes regularly. You have to bring your own herb and can use on the premises before the class starts. She is coming out with a book called Ganja Yoga later in the spring.
    I myself used to regularly substitute teach a class at the Berkeley Patients group, one of the oldest cannabis clubs here, as far back as 2001. The class is no more alas, though I fondly remember the setup: the cooperative would provide an eight of an ounce to share with the class and a Volcano vaporizer for those that preferred vaping over smoking.
    Harbor Side in Oakland provides yoga classes as well though local regulations don't allow for medicating on the premises.
    All that said, the combination of yoga and cannabis goes way, way back as many sadhus in India have combined the two for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
     
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  8. duckTape

    duckTape Well-Known Member

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    +1 for the Cannabis & stretching :love: It has taken my flexibility to a whole new level.

    I also find it very useful for perfecting martial arts techniques like spin kicks and other techniques where you don't see everything with your eyes but have to somehow feel it instead.

    I feel 200% more in touch with my body's when medicated :leaf: :peace:
     
  9. HighSeasSailor

    HighSeasSailor Well-Known Member

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    Since the weather's been warming up (well, it never really cooled off this year did it?) I've been hitting the pavement extra hard. I'm up to 40-50 miles per week, not counting recovery walks, and putting in maybe 5 hours a week on an indoor bike for extra cardio and muscle balancing. Lately around mile 4 or so on each run, I've been hitting a sweet running nirvana, where I'm still good and baked from the pre-run vape, the runner's high is kicking in full force with endorphins aplenty, and my cardio hits the "sweet spot" so my heart rate drops about 5-10 BPM naturally. I only seem to get drawn out of it when either dehydration or the carb wall rears its ugly head.

    Treated myself to a Garmin GPS watch. Really feels like it opens up the streets for me to explore, knowing I can easily check distance at any time - to say nothing of having drastically enhanced metrics. I have to say, of all the devices I've ever owned, this watch feels, somehow, the most improbably futuristic, and makes me feel the most old. Computers have been around for ages, cell phones have had some kind of form or predecessor around for decades, but wearing an accurate GPS with this much shit in it, on your wrist, the same size as a regular old watch?! Am I in Back to the Future?

    Vaguely considering the judicious use of edibles for extremely long runs where I can be expected to sober up well before the end from vaping alone. Or I could try stowing a vape in a hydration vest...
     
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  10. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    Been curious about the edibles too for the long runs. For me, any run lasting beyond 2 hours would qualify. For 2 plus hours I hydrate during the run, stack easy-on-the-stomach carbs an hour before running and bring gel packs to avoid hitting the wall during the run if need be. Would love to add a buzz booster to the scenario.

    Since I'm not in a legal state I'd steer clear of vaping during the run, there is the breath control (not sure I could hold it in long enough while running) and my personal rule that there is no walking allowed. Edibles can be erratic in terms of when they kick in and for how long and then there is the horror of horrors....getting the runs during the run. I figure I would need to take the edible 2 hours before running and can eliminate the potential for diarrhea by eating bananas and white bread 30 minutes to an hour before running to bind everything. I've used the bananas and white bread routine successfully for years without adverse stomach issues but everyone is different. I used to run with a guy who would eat an apple, a banana, 2 slices of whole grain bread and down a small Gatorade 2 hours into a marathon training session without loosing a beat. I tried to eat like him and within 15 minutes had a intestinal event.

    If you delve into the edibles I'd love to hear how it worked out!
     
  11. HellsWindStaff

    HellsWindStaff Dharma Initiate

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    Weed high + runners high = CIVILIZED

    I've never been much of a runner but I have been the last 2 weeks and it's a real treat lol, I rip the Mighty and then head out. To the point I actually look forward to it. I've hated running my whole life - flat feet and was never good at it.

    Been doing this about 2 weeks and watching what I eat, actually gained 5 lbs but I do look and feel slimmer/healthier and believe that I just gained muscle mostly. Really the only explanation as I've been on a steady diet of fish and rice from a steady diet of fast food and my caloric intake has to be down like over 50%. My dinner last night was 360 calories and my usually fast food dinner is over 1000 so it's gotta be muscle right lol
     
  12. lwien

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    Or water. For me, I've found that if I don't run for 3 days or more, I urinate like crazy every hour for about 4 hours. When I get into my typical routine, that stops so my assumption is that our bodies will acclimate to increased sweating by retaining more water in order to help keep our bodies cooler.

    So that weight gain may be a combination of increased muscle mass and water, eh?

    Also, I've found that running definitely increases my appetite. It's like my body goes into that Little Shop of Horrors mode and screams................FEED ME !!!
     
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  13. HellsWindStaff

    HellsWindStaff Dharma Initiate

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    That's a good point - I naturally drink a lot of water but I've definitely been pissing less

    My appetite is weird I usually am only hungry early evening and eat a big (huge) meal but I've been trying not to do that and to just eat many smaller meals.
     
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  14. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Yup, smaller meals (grazing) throughout the day is MUCH better for you. Helps to keep your metabolism fired up while helping to to steady your sugar levels. I eat 4 meals a day and snack on fruits or nuts in between.
     
  15. duff

    duff What...is your quest?

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    Not an athlete per say but I do ride the bike every day for an hour and exercise another 4 times a week.
    Vape at least once daily but usually 3 times a day.

    I do enjoy getting on the bike after a session.
     
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  16. HighSeasSailor

    HighSeasSailor Well-Known Member

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    That's about how I feel about it. I can go 2 hours without a drink but any more than that and I actually feel my body weaken from dehydration.

    I'll probably start doing the gels at some point. Right now I usually drink slightly high concentration gatorade and eat a banana right before going out so I have a carb load in the tank. I have a pretty stout stomach, or so I like to think, things still digest but I don't typically have to stop to find bushes along the way home...
     
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  17. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Outside temp plays a big part in that, eh, especially on a two hour run?

    My runs are never longer than an hour so I never hydrate during a run even in 90 degree heat but when I know it's going to be that warm, I will hydrate a bit extra an hour or two before I head out.

    Regarding food, even something as light as a banana, I can't go out for at least 2 hours after I eat. If I run sooner, I don't get any cramps or anything but I do burp, fart and get some acid reflux which isn't fun. The most embarrassing part about all that is when I let go of an uncontrollable fart which is really audible when I'm either running along side someone or passing someone. When that happens, all I can do is exclaim......"Afterburners....:tup:" while trying to kick it up a notch..............:uhoh:
     
  18. HellsWindStaff

    HellsWindStaff Dharma Initiate

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    I am say way @lwien but I just cramp super easily I need a good 2 hours.

    Did an extra mile today for 3 and a lil change. Felt good could of done a little more maybe but I was beat and my music died.

    I did intervals it was nice- it made it less boring for me, I am just running on a track. I tried to go as fast as I could first mile and kind of naturally fell into an interval so I kept with it, walking the bends sprinting the straights, I am whipped feel great.
     
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  19. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    It's easy to get ahead of your conditioning and cause an injury that turns you off from running. There's a fine line between that soreness that you can run through that disappears after you've been running for a bit and that soreness that disappears similarly but causes real damage over time because the endorphin's are masking the issue.

    There's a bunch of good rules out there but the two I follow religiously:
    - Never increase your intensity or distance in a given week by more than 10%. This gives your body a chance to condition itself each week without weakening and causing long term damage. Conditioning isn't just about going faster and farther. It's about allowing your structural components (back, knees, feet, etc.) to get used to it's new job over time. Conditioning also includes your body getting used to heat stress and hydration. Cardio is just one part of equation but it tends to be the focal point early on. My cardio got under control well before my knees were ready for what my cardio conditioning allowed me to do.
    - If you can't think clearly during a long run....STOP! Your inability to think clearly is one of the first indicators that the wall is ahead.

    Here's a link to one of the most respected running sites. It has a bunch of free training programs and great insights:

    http://www.halhigdon.com/
     
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  20. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    One more item to add to those rules. Take rest days for recovery. Those rest days will actually add to your conditioning. You can cross-train on a rest day. If you run, you can walk on a rest day or you can do nothing on a rest day.

    My schedule is running 4.2 miles every other day. On the days I don't run, I walk 2.5 miles and about once every 10 to 14 days, I don't do a damn thing.

    Ya gotta give your body a chance to recover and mend itself and the older we get, the more important this becomes.

    Edit: Oh, and being that summer is coming up, heat can become an issue. If you're out running in 90+ degree weather and all of sudden you notice that you're beginning to feel cold or that you're beginning to sweat less or that you're getting a headache, or you're beginning to get a bit lightheaded, or as HH stated above, you begin not to think clearly, stop and seek some shade and water. That feeling cold and ceasing to sweat in very hot weather has happened to me a few times. Very odd feeling to feel that way when you know that it's fucking hot outside.
     
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  21. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    @lwien - Good mention of the 'chills' on very hot days and the rest days/weeks. Got those chills several times and was surprised afterwards that I didn't feel bad at the time they occurred.

    Some of the links in the running web site I posted have free training programs for specific distances that are using the premise of '2 progress weeks' followed by a 'resting/establishing a base' week.
     
  22. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    I know, huh. Ya feel fine but it's hot as hell outside and ya got the chills. Weird, but a major warning sign that ya gotta stop and get into some shade.
     
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  23. organic weed

    organic weed Well-Known Member

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    Amateurial athlete. Running half marathons, competing in long distance water races (2 to 4 miles) and competing in triathlon. My performance are better now that I quit vaping than when I used to vape... better breathing and endurance. When I vaped I felt less tired in the run but I was performing worse.
    I think if you use very little quantities as a recovery when you are tired with high TBC it could help. I read something about it a few months ago. But I would never ever vape before a race or when preparing for it...
     
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  24. HellsWindStaff

    HellsWindStaff Dharma Initiate

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    This post resonates so much especially considering the post above it is me talking about pushing myself LOL. That interval run killed my plantar fascia and my ankles. Assumed it was simply hard workout pain. I was still jogging lightly and walking, and I guess about a week later I felt pretty good and did intervals again. This damn near crippled me. Hobbling all over the place.

    I stopped jogging and strictly walked to get blood in. Felt pretty shitty. Walked about 2-3 miles every day post injury. Took one day off before trip. Went to Atlantic City for 4 days and walked about 3-5 miles every day there albeit not continuously. Got back Sunday, while feeling better still a bit of pain, lightly lightly lightly jogged 2-3 miles (13:30 miles so pretty slow, my walking miles average about 15). Felt good though. Tuesday I walked 4 miles in an hour, felt great.

    Foot is basically healed. I jogged faster yesterday and did 2.3, with an average of 10:10 a mile! My first mile I did in 9:30! I don't remember the last time I ever was able to do a 10 minute mile let alone a sub 10 minute LOL. And wasn't even trying to go that quick lol just trying to push myself a bit and see how foot feels

    More importantly my foot/feet feel great. My aerobic ability is definitely improved and I can go longer/faster/harder without gasping for air. Legs feel stronger. Stomach and in generally my body seems slimmer. Body feels good!

    Today I'm just going to do a long long walk though to recover from yesterday. Tomorrow I will try to do 3 miles at a quicker pace since I don't workout as much on weekend.

    If anyone gets mild plantar fascitis, this is what I did for it to heal pretty well in 2 weeks.

    -Lots of water, lots of protein
    - Calf stretches against a wall, specifically trying to stretch behind the ankle (5-6 times daily for 10 seconds each leg)
    - Sat on ground took belt over foot and pulled foot back (1-2 times a day 10-15 sec per stretch)

    Most importantly IMO is I took a golf ball and put my foot on it and rolled my foot back and forth over it. I could hear all kinds of crunching and it felt pretty tight and eventually smoothed itself out. I did this 2-3 times a day, tried to at least, but at least 1 REALLY good session after a hot shower while muscles are loose.

    :peace:
     
  25. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Have you heard of these supplements?- "sunflower lecithin" (supposed to benefit the muscular and nervous sytem and aid in excercise/strain recovery), and even more powerful, "Great lakes gelatin "collagen hydrolysate"".
     
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