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Asperger's Syndrome & MMJ

Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by DDave, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    To feel different, to see things differently, to always feel out of place. Like you were born on the wrong planet. :hmm:

    I read of fantasy.
    Of dragons and knights,
    Goblins and ghosts.
    I read of science
    With ships in space and guns.
    I read of mystery,
    Of murder and deceit,
    Or trickery and lies.
    I read of many things.
    Why can't I read your eyes?
    - Lawrence HSU, age 15.


    A quote in dedication of those misunderstood, who can never understand. Those both gifted and cursed. They call us Aspies.


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    Medical Marijuana can be used to alleviate the negative symptoms and accentuate the positive aspects of Asperger's Syndrome.

    Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and Cannabidiol (CBD) are the two main cannabinoids found in marijuana. THC is psychoactive, causing the "high" associated with marijuana use. CBD is non-psychoactive and has a calming effect. Aspies should choose high quality medical marijuana that has a high CBD to THC ratio. Use tinctures and edibles for long-lasting effects. Smoke or vaporize marijuana for a quick fix. Mix buds and leaf together to get more CBD's in your medicine.
    Anxiety issues can make it impossible to lead a productive life. CBD's calm the body and mind to relieve stress. but beware of high THC concentrations that can cause severe anxiety and panic attacks.
    Aspies are often ruled by their emotions and can have temper-tantrums well into adulthood. Smoke or vaporize marijuana as soon as you feel the anger rising and you should be able to calm down enough to talk about your feelings.
    Sufferers of AS can have stress management issues due to their inability to control emotions. This can lead to disorders of the gastrointestinal system, such as ulcerative colitis, inflammatory bowel disease, and Crohn's Disease. Marijuana has pain-relieving and anti-inflammatory properties that can ease discomfort. If you are malnourished, use marijuana to stimulate your appetite.
    Stress and depression can make it impossible to get a good night's sleep. Marijuana can help you fall asleep and stay asleep.
    Aspie brains can race out of control making it difficult to concentrate and communicate. Marijuana slows down your thought processes, enabling you to think clearly and focus on one subject at a time.
    Marijuana can alleviate social phobias, allowing you to leave the house and interact with the world without worrying about feeling different.
    Medical marijuana may not work for everyone diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. You may have to experiment with the THC to CBD ratios and methods of ingestion to find a treatment plan that works for you.
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  2. MinnBobber

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    A friend of a friend is on med disability for Crohn's disease.
    Would MMJ help him?
    My friend is a former military guy so I'd be unsure if I could suggest
    his friend research MMJ????????
    Thanks
     
  3. newVaper420

    newVaper420 Vapor Enthusiast

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    Not sure why you would post this here and not in a separate thread, or whatever, but yes, there is tons of research regarding Crohn's and Medical Marijuana. I have Crohn's and it helps tremendously.

    http://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/356512#AI
     
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  4. Snappo

    Snappo Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!" Accessory Maker

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    Outstanding post!!! DAVE - I don't mean to refute your belief that you have the trait, but you strongly impress me as being quite opposite in that your expressive & receptive levels of sensitivity demonstrate a much greater acuity and depth far beyond the average IMO only, of course. You seem to read people most clearly, and reach most ably into the souls of animals. In total your perceptive ability exemplifies how the rest of the human race
    should evolve - God willing.
     
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  5. paytonpenn

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    I went 17 years with no interest in actually hanging around other Humans, now I only have interest in them while vaping (pretty sure my interest is more of the vaping rather than the people) but if it wasn't for cannabis I'm sure I'd still be even more so of loner and questioning the purpose of mundane activities with temporary people.

    I'm self diagnosed and probably don't appear like a person with asperger's due to reasons that would appear obvious on the surface.

    I still don't have interest in being around people, maybe twice a month with no more than 4 people I will leave my room to see others for a couple hours; but I personally only want to discuss vaporizers and their accessories, unfortunately I'm alone in that department around here. But not so literally around here.

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    It was quite huge change in how I interacted with humans the years before and after. I would instantly inform people around me about the negative things I've noticed about them and literally couldn't understand why they weren't delighted to hear that. After using marijuana for a couple of months I noticed I just stopped doing that, and really disliked any negative comments my "acquainted friends" would say. While they would never actually tell the person about the negative aspects of oneself, I had no remorse from making jokes about a student who died the previous day and had no discretion of what would be referred to as negative.
     
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  6. DDave

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    Hi @paytonpenn

    It's nice to meet you! I too have an interest in vaporizers and their accessories. It's a subset of my need to review things that interest me, in effort to later think of how they can be improved (or used for something for which they were not originally purposed).

    If you ever want to chat, hit me up on IM. :wave:

    Hi @MinnBobber, while different people are affected differently, from a brief skim of the links below, many do benefit greatly! If it helps, please feel free to share my stories with your friend. The greatest relief I've gained from MMJ can be found in my posting in Menier's Disease. (if you need help searching, please let me know). Here's some useful links that maybe you can review so you have knowledge of other's experiences and various strains for the time you do decide to discuss this with your friends.

    http://www.medicalmarijuanastrains.com/weeditor-buggins/
    www.leafly.com/explore/conditions-crohns-disease
    https://weedmaps.com/forums/medicating/topics/34879
    www.medicalmarijuanastrains.com/tag/crohns/‎

    Hope this helps!!!

    Thanks @Snappo

    No worries, I take that as a huge compliment! Being a Spectrum disorder, any who have it have its components to varying degrees. I had a benefit that most don't. I knew I was different, just didn't have a clue why. (and boy did I create the stories in my head of possible reasons for this!) I can't tell you how difficult school was, but I turned my focus towards fitting in. That quest has not stopped to this day.... Even still trying to fit in here at FC. ;)

    Here's results from my last test....
    (Plots on the left side of the chart indicate "Normal", to the right, Aspie).
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    Those I feel most for are children with Asperger's who don't know they have it and whose parents don't know or don't know how to help! With such a small push in the right direction, an Aspie can learn to supplement shortcomings with skills and appear to be more "in the norm", resulting in a much easier time navigating through life.
     
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  7. Snappo

    Snappo Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!" Accessory Maker

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    As for myself, Asperger's was always a possibility, but I never got a pro diagnosis nor did I ever explore the topic much for myself beyond just thinking that I was on an alien world with a race of fucking unfeeling lunatics. I have mellowed somewhat since in that regard but still feel different from most. I took the same chart test a few years back and scored more heavily weighted towards the aspie side, but not significantly - don't recall the score exactly, but I think it wasn't far off from yours. Not quite sure what to make of that other than the possibility of it being a case of my maladjustment compared to the norm, or the norm's maladjustment compared to me. I'll not fret either way;). More directly on topic and to the original question: MMJ flips a switch in my brain that has me think and feel that night has turned to day, and that all I stressed over and raged against was all for naught - and all is right as rain. Wish that mmj effect was my natural neuro-mental state all on it's own without the need for a vape assist. :peace::peace::peace:
     
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    I second this notion.... especially the raging for not.... I can always tell when ive not taken enough for the day because rage is typically how emotions come out even when I am just trying to be helpful I get so frustrated that even my wife is like wtf. It takes hours to calm myself.... if I ever do without support. When I use cannabis... as soon as ive medicated and effect set in I have to go apologize for being irrational and mean... really tears me up when I have bad days in front of the kids. And I have a son thats just like me... im just trying to do better than I recieved...

    Understanding is the grestest tool in any relationship.

    So, now that im medicated im gonna go apologize for doing a very shitty job of "helping :rant:" my wife...:doh: just wish this would get stuck permanent.:doh:
     
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  9. DDave

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    ‎Oh I can definitely identify with these feelings and the wish for a "medicated" norm.

    When I feel this coming on, the best thing I can do for myself and everyone else is isolate myself. After a bit of time, my mind let's go of the frustration and I take time to rethink. If I isolate myself in time, I can actually avoid the subsequent apologies.‎ This is during the times I can't medicate.

    However, when I can medicate, I gain a focus. And empathy towards another's feelings seems to increase. It doesn't really, it's just my mind can focus and give me the opportunity to ask myself the usual questions about how someone else may feel about something.

    Good luck and hope some of this helps!

    Dave‎
     
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  10. MinnBobber

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    Thanks! The reason I posted here is I was reading med posts to learn all I can and you mentioned Crohn's disease and the bell goes off--that's what that new acquaintance John has. Geez, that would be awesome if MMJ helped that so replied to learn more.

    Thanks DDave
     
  11. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    Anytime! Happy to help! Hey, If you ever want to throw a question or two my way, please feel free. I may not have a particular affliction, but i'm an Aspie that seems to be focused on helping and how different strains (or combinations of strains) help various ailments.

     
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    This is what makes me who I am.
    It is both my curse and my blessing.
    It is both the cause of my bliss and the cause of my sorrow.
    It is both what leads me to make mistakes and what leads me to do great things.
    It is both the founder of my past and my pathway to my future
    This is what makes me amazing
    It is what gives me my talents and achievements
    It is what gives me my intelligence and ideas
    It is what gives me my humor and individuality
    It is what gives me passion and dedication
    This is what makes me flawed.
    It is what makes me confused and anxious.
    It is what makes me exhausted and frustrated.
    It is what makes me uncertain and complicated
    It is what makes me lonely and depressed
    This is what makes me different
    It is what makes me both distant and compassionate.
    It is what makes me both tired and creative.
    It is what makes me both sassy and awkward.
    It is what makes me both fairly normal and completely insane at the same time.


    By Anthony J. Piccione​
     
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  13. Deja Vu

    Deja Vu drawn to FC like animal magnetism

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    Very touching, and trippy that the author's name is Anthony J. Piccione. My actual full name is Anthony J. Lo Piccolo.. Not sure if on an acid trip or not..
    I love the perception of autistic people when they passionately enjoy a creative medium. Art and literature are the obvious ones, but musicians, savants and athletes are all shining examples of the profound dedication and deeper understanding of things that someone with asbergers can do. My favourite artwork to look at and appreciate is that of young children, and those with mental 'disabilities' or afflictions. I believe that it is an added ability though, and not a disability.
    One of my favourite novels is The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time which is written solely from the perspective of a child with Asbergers, and the world's inability to be understood (which he is actually indifferent to) effects him in more ways than his perceived 'disability' does. It is the rest of the world that cannot open their minds and hearts to children and adults with a state of gifted consciousness that they are not accustomed to or used to seeing in their day to day life. It's this same inability to empathise that causes racism and inequality.

    Mad respect for this thread DDave, as I have personally struggled with an array of mental difficulties for my whole life and refuse to buy in to the Eastern medicinal 'solutions' and the concept of a 'diagnosis' which is basically their way of labelling you. Any form of labelling (EVEN THE PHRASE 'I AM AUSTRALIAN, or I AM AMERICAN' is (in my opinion) a form of HATRED. Because it SEPARATES you or somebody else from the truth, and the truth is that we are all one divine consciousness.

    Anyway.. I lost sight of where I was going with that, but I even disagree with the word 'Aspergers', or 'Anxiety, or Autism and depression.
    These are all part of life, and even the most 'normal' person will share traits with someone who was unfairly diagnoses as an Aspie, and an Aspie will surely share similarities with a 'normal' person. It is all ridiculous that there is a line that is drawn in the personality and characteristics of a human being that defines them as having a particular mental 'disability'.

    Much love to all the aspies out there, you are all no different to anyone else in this world, and if anyone says otherwise it is because of their own sense of superiority or hidden personal inadequacies.

    and it's wonderful that MJ has been linked to alleviating some of the more difficult symptoms that people who associate themselves with Aspberger's Syndrome can experience.
     
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    How about a quick "elevating" rap from your favorite Aspie?

    Who wants to get their Herb on?

    Whats up everybody, is your boy DDave
    The same Vape Wizard you'll be seeing on FC
    With a Solo, EQ, Herbie, or a big bag
    The wicked weed that I always seam to have
    Yes I, always seem to have a little som'em som'em
    And I, always got the herb that keeps the people com'in
    And you, you know you cant repeat my spell!
    So now, just sit back, relax, an get elevated as well
    Blowin steam while getting blown, watchin the flow
    DDave, plus a bowl, plus a bag of enduo, Oooooooooooooo...
    And thats the stuff that people wants to dream about
    Makes you want to scream and shout
    The words that once came out your mouth
    Damn Dude, you need to relax on that thing
    Treat that thing like a nice glass rig

    Who wants to get their herb on? (get your vape on)
    Fire up the vaperizer
    Go clean out that water tool (get your vape on)
    Who wants to get their herb on
    higher than Babylon (get your vape on)
    Speak to the Wizard(?)
    Come along hit the tool (get your vape on)

    Simon says...
    Shut the fuck up if you aint got no weed
    You better sit the fuck down if you got sticks and seed
    D double DDave? say I got the bombest
    Everybody claiming that theirs is cronic
    Why, do you always smoke when you know your buds wasting(?)
    DDave vapes that purple kush, green crack, lemon super silver haze
    So now, you know what the fuck I mean when I say....
    Not a day go by, red eyed, dont ask why
    Tonights the night for me to let vapors fly
    If your down for my realm everybody get high

    Who wants to get their herb on? (get your vape on)
    Fire up the vaperizer
    Go clean out that water tool (get your vape on)
    Who wants to get their herb on
    higher than Babylon (get your vape on)
    Speak to the Wizard(?)
    Come along hit the tool (get your vape on)

    higher than Babylon (get your vape on)
    Speak to the Wizard(?)
    Come along hit the tool (get your vape on)

    (Elevate, lets Medicate)

    I wanna get lifted now, relieve my stress level
    Decompress, elevate like a true Vapor Rebel (?)
    expand my mind, let my senses run free
    loss track of time, let time grab a hold of me
    I'm elevated, my spirits are risin
    I'm on couch-lock this aint so suprisin
    I got the munchies, edibles seein new horizons
    Eyes goin red, now were vaporizen
    I vape a Dutch, Dragon, Magic Bud, Skunk-one
    Purple Haze, Superman, Hinduo, Kush, Chocolate Chump
    Cotton Candy, White Widow, Cali Mist, and Bubble Gum,
    Blue Berry, Mothers Finest, making peace with everyone
    And just think, this nights just begun. haha get your vape on

    Who wants to get their herb on? (get your vape on)
    Fire up the vaperizer
    Go clean out that water tool (get your vape on)
    Who wants to get their herb on
    higher than Babylon (get your vape on)
    Speak to the Wizard(?)
    Come along hit the tool (get your vape on)

    Who wants to get their Herb on

    Fire up the vaperizer

    Who wants to get their herb on

    Who wants to get their herb on
    Come along hit the bong

    I wanna get lifted now!​
     
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    farscaper Well-Known Member

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    get

    get

    get lifted :ko:
     
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    imasinner Just Some Loser

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    DDave Vape Wizard

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    !!!!! Explicit Lyrics Warning !!!!!!

    Alright, this one's a shocker! There's no way these dudes are Aspies! :hmm: But whomever wrote the song, well, jury's still out on them!

    Wrong With Me - Twiztid

    Leave me all alone,
    There ain't nobody calling on my telephone,
    Because I ripped that bitch right up outta the wall,
    I apologize to any of y'all that tried to call.
    I haven't been myself lately,
    I been slowly losing my mind
    And tell 'em it's gravy.
    I'm looking hella shady
    And I haven't showered in weeks
    I haven't washed my balls,
    I haven't brushed my teeth.
    All I see is demons everywhere that I look
    Was it the Ouija, the Black Magic, or The Warlock Book?
    I can't remember!
    But how can my memories leave me?
    I can't believe the spirits would try to deceive me!
    But they did, just like a little kid
    I was so eager to learn, so willing to give
    But all they did was hate me and break me
    Used my body for a host,
    And my mirror for the gateway!
    Something...is wrong with me...
    I can't be who I need to be...
    Something...is wrong with me...
    Will it last for eternity?
    Something...is wrong with me...
    I can't be who I need to be...
    Something...is wrong with me...
    Will it last for eternity?
    Please don't walk away,
    I want you to hear what I gotta say.
    I never had anyone ever care for me,
    I never had anyone ever there for me.
    If you would listen to me instead of calling me names,
    I would explain why I'm shaking and I'm going insane.
    My mind is on vacation,
    Like a conversation,
    I'm like a radio, with static on every station.
    Still I wanna know will I be normal again
    You say it's bullshit and tell me that it's all pretend
    But if it's false then why don't the demons just disappear?
    And if it's untrue then why am I seeing them crystal clear?
    Because I do, the mirror is turning blue.
    And soul after soul keeps walking right through.
    They're living in my house and living inside my head,
    Some sleep inside the closet, others sleep under the bed.
    Something...is wrong with me...
    I can't be who I need to be...
    Something...is wrong with me...
    Will it last for eternity?
    Something...is wrong with me...
    I can't be who I need to be...
    Something...is wrong with me...
    Will it last for eternity?
    All i wanted to be,
    Was a member of a family with unity.
    but the people that's alive will stab you straight in the back,
    and throw a stick in the spokes and flip you off of the track.
    If it wasn't for Monoxide and Violent J,
    that nigga Jack, Shaggy 2 Dope, and blaze ya dead homie,
    I probably woulda given up and called it quits,
    I probably wouldn't be here I probably wouldn't be shit!
    I find my self looking back in the glass,
    and reminisce all the times of the present and past.
    I'm feeling strange, I wonder if they can save me,
    I'm feeling cold I'm standing in front of the gateway.
    Here I am, I'm such a crazy man,
    I'm trying to control my life the best that i can.
    But the demons are around me trying to stray me away,
    I thank God that I'm standing right here today.
    Something...is wrong with me...
    I can't be who I need to be...
    Something...is wrong with me...
    Will it last for eternity?
    Something...is wrong with me...
    I can't be who I need to be...
    Something...is wrong with me...
    Will it last for eternity?


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    What? No humorous tone to my post? Well, I'm not done yet!

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  20. DDave

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    Another clip....

    Uh huh, we unreal
    Just like a seven dollar bill
    Voice my opinion regardless on how you feel
    Freak shit
    It ain't about being diff
    It's about Aspies being classified as lunatics
    As long as y'all rock this we won't quit
    We do it all for y'all, I mean that shit
    Everyone of y'all means everything to me
    We bleed for y'all, that's why we call it the family

    [Chorus]

    It's hard to explain the aspects of my
    Self inflicted pain
    Were not positive, and upliftin'
    Fuck you, walk a mile in our shoes
    Experience hard times and payin' helly dues
    Freak shit
    What I live what I breath
    Cast out like we have some kind of disease
    Still they try to ban our kind
    Cause supposedly it would be raising
    The evolution of a new type of mind!



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    No wonder I love Star Trek.... they're playing my tune!!!! :nod:
     
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    Snappo Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!" Accessory Maker

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    Piccard & Kirk said it best when they eulogized Data & Spock!
     
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    imasinner Just Some Loser

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    my middle son (of 3) was recently diagnosed as moderatly autistic. my wife really wants me to go and have a diagnosis too... eish:uhoh:. a whole other thought process that brings me great anxiety!...

    but in his honor I thought I would share a little photo of some pumpkin carving I did a few years ago for him. he thought it was the coolest ever! and it won me a little prize in the contest I entered it into... I really enjoy this thread every time I read it.

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