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Arizer Solo II

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by bluenavey00, Jan 31, 2017.

  1. Little Bill

    Little Bill Oldest stoner on FC

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    Both provide good flavor. Depends more on strain and vaping temps.
     
  2. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I want to buy more stuff!

    One day a new SOLO 2!

    I will look at the new ArGo?
     
  3. bossman

    bossman Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking about an argo but the reviews made it sound like a poorer performing but more portable Solo and I have no need for that. I want the option for big clouds from my vapes.
     
  4. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    Vaporizing keeps one in the game!
    I don't like portables in general.
    Now they come on handy in a pinch.
     
  5. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    I don’t have any problems with the flavor of the vapor with my Solo 2 except the last bit of ABV at the end. I will save it and vape it in my Enano later in the evening. The Solo 2 has better flavor than a lot of portables out in the the market market place. Others may have a different impression. A very useful tool in my arsenal.

    I don’t use a screen so it’s important for me to keep the holes clear so there isn’t a tight draw.
     
  6. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    @CarolKing i don't use a screen these daz's as well, however I clean more!

    Flavor and $ Make's da SOLO shine.
    Whatever is important 2 U?
     
  7. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge

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    I went back and checked...it's more like 60F. Still enough to preserve herbs for a couple minutes.
     
  8. Little Bill

    Little Bill Oldest stoner on FC

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    I saw your graphs months ago and had a thought which I want to share. The load temperature goes up a good amount during the drawing on the Solo 2. That has to be caused by heat flow due to air movement so that convection dominates over conduction for the Solo 2. That makes sense to me.
     
  9. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Without getting into this diversion again, it could also be that the load cools off between hits locally due to heat being drawn out the sensor leads (a known issue with TCs)? Doing the same experiment with thinner leads gives a different magnitude of shift (which is why they make such thin TC leads). Another example of the observer (in this case a sensor) changing the conditions of the experiment?

    Not that I'm sure it really matters. It is what it is, no matter what we call it. FWIW I think there are solid reasons against convection as the main heating mode (like battery life, Thermodynamics and so on.....). Vapes like FireFly have heat sources over 1000F (hence the name FireFly.....), as does ESV, T1, GH, Cera and other known 'power hogs' that work on convection? They feature mechanical separation of the heat source and load (to prevent combustion), unlike here.

    Lively discussion on the topic (at one point) going on here:
    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/arizer-portable-heater-tech-discussion.25914/

    OF
     
  10. Little Bill

    Little Bill Oldest stoner on FC

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    OF thanks for the link. That thread is golden thanks to @stickstones test results.
     
  11. malkan

    malkan New Member

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    Hi everyone, I am new to vaping and have recently purchased a Solo II and I want your opinion on whether water filtration is a must to get the best results? Does it improve the high? Which adaptor should I purchase - the official one that Arizer sells on their website or some other one?
     
  12. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    First off, welcome to the Forums and all the fun. Good folks around here. Great choice with Solo.

    No, it's obviously not necessary or it would be included by Arizer with each unit? It can help guys really pushing it, allowing them to avoid the harshness (or at least some of it) of higher temperatures or less than premium herb. Long term it can help dry mouth and other issues with the dry nature of the vapor by restoring some moisture.

    But it can't add THC that isn't there to start. It can, taken to extremes, actually reduce the effects by stripping terpenes first then to the really good stuff.

    I suggest you get to know the basic unit first.
    Then get a WPA and a proper bubbler like the D20 (very popular around here). Actually I suggest getting the plastic topped stem from the Air:
    https://www.puffitup.com/Air-Glass-Aroma-Tube-p/arz.air-106_tube.htm

    It fits Solos as well, and mates with standard 14mm GonG fittings found on many (most?) bubblers. IMO it's a very handy stem 'dry', and carries 'loaded and capped' well:
    [​IMG]

    This makes them handy in several directions. And cheaper than most.

    OF
     
  13. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I have a few water tool's = GAS
    WATER PATH makes it a bit Opulent?

    Not nescessary but FUN! (Glass)

    However let me rant?

    D020 from da sunshine store on www.dhgate.com

    After U see if it's your thing?
    Get one local?

    The SOLO is a great place to start!
     
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  14. malkan

    malkan New Member

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    Thanks, guys! I've been lurking here for a while and already got tons of valuable info from this forum. Really great community here!
    I forgot to mention that I already have a ROOR bong and I actually wanted to find out how to use solo with it. Arizer sells an adapter called "Solo II Frosted Glass Aroma Tube" on their website, but the shipping would cost me more than the actual thing because I live in the Eastern Europe. And this thing is not sold anywhere in my country. So maybe you guys can suggest an alternative? For example, maybe there are some generic (not made by Arizer) adapters that I can use to connect my bong to Solo (and will have a better chance of finding nearby)?
     
  15. BigJr48

    BigJr48 Well-Known Member

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    Hey welcome aboard and enjoy the path of a enlightening experience, I love the Solo 2 so much that I bought the Air 2 for on the go.
     
  16. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    If you have access to spare parts for Arizer Air the plastic topped stems are sized to mate with 14mm GonGs. This one:
    https://www.puffitup.com/Air-Glass-Aroma-Tube-p/arz.air-106_tube.htm

    There are in fact two different ones, 60 and 70mm, either works fine.

    Absent that, a short piece of half inch (13mm?) ID Silicone tube on the end of the standard stems mates with 14mm GonG as well. Or for that matter a couple rubber bands or strip of cloth can also be used for a gasket.

    The GonG adapters on EBay are problematic, steer clear of them. Cheap but useless, you're better served by known good part when it comes to fit in the oven.

    HTH,

    OF
     
  17. fernand

    fernand Well-Known Member

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    Wow, it's been a while -- good to see you guys still at it! And @ataxian has a cosmic avatar!

    My contribution? I left my Solo 1 in Le Stache, as I did other stuff for the last couple of years. Imagine the pleasant surprise: when I pulled it out to get back to ... things. It was still charged, taking just a few minutes on the charger to reach 100% full. Not bad for a built-in battery. I also had an exceptional bit of good luck with finding the Firefly charger: it only took a few hours ;-)

    Oh, I DO have a question for y'all up to date folks with the Solo 2. I was going to recommend a Solo 1 (that can be purchased at attractive prices) for a friend. And then I thought ... Hey I know just the people to ask. For an inexperienced guy, who's not going to be using it often at all, is it really worth the extra $100 to get a Solo 2?

    I mean I'm a big fan of the MFLB, and I can control temp on that contraption just wigglin' the battery, but why send him the way of a stick-shift Yugo when he can get a Solo 1 for maybe $20 more? Yet the Solo 2 seems like overkill. Yes? No?
     
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  18. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I'm a big fan of Solo 1 still. The longer battery life and more compact body of the 2 is nice, but really only compared to the 1 I think. I'm not all jazzed by the fancy display, in fact some details (like less precise 'battery meter') are 'better' on the original. I also think the screw off cap makes it much easier to get the debris out on the original model.

    For a 'first vape' I'd go with the Solo 1, and maybe include the bubbler stem from PIU?
    https://www.puffitup.com/Arizer-Air-Solo-H2O-Filtration-Stem-p/qtqc.solo-bubb.htm

    Welcome back.

    OF
     
  19. thekayo

    thekayo Active Member

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    Hey guys! I have been using the solo II for around 6 months now. My go too portable vape. But i use it with a water pipe as a back up when im cleaning my other unit. I wanted to go over some tips on how to get the most efficiency, flavor, and potency. Its really only a couple quick tips.

    #1 How to fill the bowl
    - Never fill it right to the top. Id say anywhere between 1/2 and 3/4 is safe. the reason for this relates heavily to the next tip. Basically if you fill it full then the top/bottom of the oven will burn the bud leaving a bad flavor. You also want alot of airflow when using a water pipe so I recommend never packing down your bud and just letting it stay light and loose.

    #2 Handling the unit

    - Never tilt it upside down! if you tilt it then you are exposing the bud to the hot oven and burning it to a crisp. My bud only touches the glass when i use it with a water pipe. It creates somewhat of a convection oven inside. Also I recommend only placing the heating element over the glass bowl when you are inhaling. Never leave it sitting on top. Treat it like an electronic lighter.

    #3 What temp should I use?
    - Now if you follow all these steps correctly I find I can vape at 220c no problem and rip as long as I want. It leaves the bud a nice even brown. Great flavor and potency. Less vapor then as if i packed it full but its more about the consistency, airflow, and EFFICIENCY!!! THIS IS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY OF USING THE SOLO I OR II. In my opinion at least haha. This is what works best for me. You guys may not like it but give it a try!

    [​IMG]
     
  20. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    @fernand welcome back to the Solo family. The Solo 2 is my “go to” vaporizing portable for me as well. It’s easy to use wether you are curled up on the couch or vaporizing on the go while camping. The battery is long lasting and charges up in 3-4 hours when almost out of juice.

    Mine works as well as when I bought it.

    Not using a screen works best for me but you will have to decide the screen thing for yourself. I’m wishing @ataxian buys one of these so we can hear his thoughts about the upgrades. Look for sales and take the plunge. Don’t buy one of these off EBay there are Chinese knock offs out there.
     
  21. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I'm guilty of buying knock off's to be burnt hard.6

    The SOLO 2 I WANT 4-SURE = REAL ONE!
    @fernand my 1st vaporizer was the same as you!
    The taste 4 me is why SOLO was 4-me.
    Flavor is important 4-some?
    How do U spell relief?
    C A N N A B I S

    Off point however i just had FRENCH ESPRESSO B-4 WAKE & VAKE.
    SOME R FINE avec JUS DE SHAUSSETTE?
     
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  22. OF

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    I intentionally bought a 'too good to be true Air' from China, to see what it was. I wrote a long post about it, warning others off. I think it's in a 'counterfeit' thread somewhere now (no longer in the Air thread). The 'detail errors' were small (hard to spot), but it was definitely inferior in quality and IMO more important deprived Arizer of it's due profit. Even the battery was counterfeit.

    I did a similar exercise 'in the day' with 'Thermovape Revolution kit' from EBay (again, how did it make it from California to China??? Dangerous in the opinion of the TV guys. Inferior materials, really dodgy batteries (tested low capacity and got much hotter in use). I trashed the charger and batteries, and the body (two piece build, and sloppy) and had 'the guys' rebuild the cart with the right (safe) materials for 3.6 Volts and it's still working.

    The packaging in both cases looked reasonable. You could easily mistake it for genuine at the local shop. Rules there seem a bit looser than here........ Which is too bad, big rewards for lying your way to a sale? And no apparent downside.

    I agree with @ataxian and the rest, stick with know good sources, avoid any 'too good to be true' offers.

    OF
     
  23. Ibn Vapin

    Ibn Vapin DIY Noob

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    Are these Arizer units dry herb only?
     
  24. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    No. Lots of use wrap a bit of concentrate in cotton and enjoy it. Others make a 'sandwich' with concentrate between herb layers so 'leaks' don't get into the works. Those loads go and go and go...... I've been known to do this with bubble hash until the bubble hash runs out. It's typically 3 or 4 times as potent as a gram of 'top shelf' for the same or less money. A handy way to stretch your 'weed money'.

    Do a search on 'sandwich' you'll see this has been discussed hundreds of times across many vapes.

    Most think it truly shines with good herb and clean glass, but that's not the only thing it does well.

    OF
     
  25. hans solo

    hans solo Left coast Canada

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    You can layer Kief with your herb or just jam in a nug. Personally I would aqauire a separate vape for each consumable.
     

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