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Discussion in 'Cooking with Cannabis' started by Nok21, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. Nok21

    Nok21 New Member

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    Hello FC, this is my first post! I got my first vaporizer about a month ago, the magic flight launch box. Once i heard about cooking with ABV material, i realized how much this investment was going to payoff.

    I had a rough time deciding what to do with my first batch of abv material (About 2.5g at the time), it was a light to medium shade of brown and it was put through my grinder up-side-down multiple times until it was a powder.

    There were not many appealing guides for a single-serving dose, so I decided to experiment with that 2.5g of ABV powder and a little 100 proof vodka.

    I took 2.5 shots of vodka and let it sit in a small mason jar with the ABV for about an hour. After that, I dumped the entire contents of the mason jar into my cheapest stove pot and slowly heated it from lo to medium very, very slowly over the course of a half hour or so, and I had the fan over my stove on high to help with the vapors.

    After I let it cool a little, I poured it through a cheese cloth. After squeezing every last drop out of that cheese cloth, I filtered it through a coffee filter. I put what I have left into a tiny mason jar, and have about a shot and a half worth of ABV Vodka sitting in my closet.

    Now Im not real sure if I want to even take this at all- Its a very dark brown and I have very little experience with edibles (If you consider this one). So, does anyone have any input/ideas/advice for me on this one?
     
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  2. Tweek

    Tweek Well-Known Member

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    I've made a rum tincture with my ABV. I simmered it at a low heat, and it was really potent. It didn't taste or look great, but packed a punch. You will definitely need more material than if you were using fresh. I would recommend building up a good stash of duff and then making an infusion for best results.
     
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  3. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    Hi Nok21, Welcome to FC!

    General Edible Warning: If you over-medicate, you're in for a long ride! In my experience, and from reading posts on FC, the effect from edibles is very long lasting (I've had 8-10 hour effects, with decently long peaks).

    With that, and since this is alcohol based, why not drop 5 or so drops under your tongue, swish around for a bit, then swallow it and see if you feel anything. Keep count and go for another 5 drops, maybe every 15 minutes.

    When (if) you reach your desired effect, you'll have a good baseline by your total count of drops, how much a single serving should be, then adjust for need or preference from there.

    My only concern with what you've stated above is the temperature of your oven. Maybe get an oven thermometer and check temperatures at the various settings on your oven to make sure you're not losing any goodies to overheating.

    Hope this helps!
    Please post your results!
     
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  4. Nok21

    Nok21 New Member

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    Thanks guys! I was concerned about over-medicating, and I've even heard that low doses (Such as this small batch) can pack some serious power. Its not strong enough to dose by the drop, at least i don't think it is. I'll try 1/5 or 1/4 of the total solution when i get home from work tomorrow.
     
  5. Negativebeef

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    Is it really possible to overdose on edibles? I remember reading somewhere that the vast majority of cannibis ER visits are because of edibles.
     
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  6. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    Hey Negativebeef, depends on the definition of overdose. If you mean to become toxic and life threatening, I've heard some ridiculous amount of product had to be consumed in a certain amount of time to be lethal....

    Now, to over-medicate, absolutely. IMHO, when you vape herbs the effect is obtained very quickly. You can only process so much before either passing out or becoming an inanimate object for a while. But when either of those two states are reached, you are also unable to keep putting more meds in your system. With edibles, first off the effect comes on slow(er). Many impatient persons jump the gun with edibles, thinking they've not consumed enough to reach the level they seek, and consume more. Unfortunately, this allows for you to consume more meds than ever could vaping (herbs), and to overmedicate.

    It is really worth it to pace yourself with edibles, maybe suffering a few low-effect eating sessions, until you know what your system can take and how high you want to be. (You can always supplement a low-effect eating session with vaping.... the two different types of effects can be a pleasant combination).

    Hope this helps!

    Vape On!
     
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  7. Nok21

    Nok21 New Member

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    Thanks for the input all! Anyone know how long this will remain safe to drink? I've had no time to mess around with it lately, and just want to make sure that this will be drinkable when I get around to it.
     
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  8. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    Safe to drink, probably a very very long time. But how long till the goodies degrade? Since it's alcohol based, it will last alot longer than glycerin, months easily, but don't sit on it really long as eventually it will degrade.
     
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  9. Nok21

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    Well, I now have a few days off and I think I'm going to let the vodka evaporate a little bit to make a crude tincture-style extract. The liquid is still a very cloudy brown, I'll probably let it sit out overnight in a Pyrex dish until its reduced by about 50%. Hell, i may even just drink 1/4 of it tonight.. I just know it will taste like total and utter crap.
     
  10. Nok21

    Nok21 New Member

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    Finished 1/3 the liquid, its now 1 hour 45 minutes since I started drinking it (Finished it 15-20 min into it)


    EDIT: Now 1:46 since preparing the drink, I feel pleasantly heavy. Hand/eye coordination is off a little bit, and effects are growing. This is enough for tonight, ill have to try the remaining 2/3 tomorrow afternoon in one big dose.

    I have yet to feel a peak, and will probably fall asleep soon enough. Overall, I'm very satisfied with the outcome. Simple, cheap and the taste wasn't so bad.
     
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  11. Buildozer

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    I made a serving of AVB vodka about 30 mins ago.. I didn't spend much time on it.. I probably used 1.5g-2g of AVB and about 2x as much 40%Vodka to cover it.. I shook it a hand full of times over about 15 mins.. I strained and drank.. It turned out a very nice rich amber color..which is what I was hoping for.. My AVB was pretty light too.. I'll see how it turns out, for a 15 min soak.. I hope to get decent results.
     
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  12. Buildozer

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    I've been vaping, but I'm still feeling pretty baked off 2 of these AVB Vodka shots that I took 5-8 hours ago.. I probably used a total of at least 4g AVB tonight... This has to be the easiest, and most rewarding thing I have done w/ my AVB yet.. I'm happy w/ it.. Not sure that I am missing all that much by skipping the heat, since it's AVB.. But I wonder??
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    Not sure, but it seems to have kicked in mild pretty quick, but then it seemed to suddenly kick in stronger some hours later.. Maybe it was because my 2 doses were staggered by about 2 hours? :shrug: Maybe it had to do w/ what I had eaten??

    The taste was not bad either.. This stuff would be cool to bring to a party or celebration of some sort.. :D :cheers:
     
  13. thesoloman

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    I smell a meetup
     
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  14. Buildozer

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    Another AVB vodka shot that I guess I forgot to post about.. I made it probably a couple of weeks ago.. It's so easy to make, and I feel I get good results..

    [​IMG] :cheers:
     
  15. Buildozer

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    So I have been saving my AVB up for about ten days, and now I have this half bottle of amber vodka.. :D and I'm about to take it w/ me to a triple birthday party.. :D :party: :cheers:
     
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  17. Lo

    Lo Combustion free since '09 Staff Member

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    I'm in FL and we can't get the good Everclear here but we can get the 151 version. I've used for several years without a problem though if I could get the higher proof - I would.

    Pfft! We are surrounded by nannys :(
     
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  18. ou812?

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    yeah same here, in FL. as well, south end... weather is nice but not the best place if your trying to evade the pork, they are in large numbers and patrol the shit out of this county. Pull you over because they can and arent a bit friendly when they do. They waste a lot of peeps in FL, reason they say is its crawling w/ transient types from all over that are basically criminals hiding out in the warmth..what ever!!! , seems like a tuff place to get the medical bill passed, even though i think it may be on the ballot in Nov, but we shall see. The headshops arent the greatest either but ,thank goodness theres the interwebs (LOL) :cheers:
     
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  19. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    I just made another small batch of AVB Vodka using 8g of powdered AVB..
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    This shit here is called Dangerous... :D

     
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  20. Puffers

    Puffers Micro-Climate Mastermind

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    @Buildozer same method as the first time? No heat. aprox 15 min steep/shake, then strain? What do you find easiest to strain through? I take it the bottle got the job done for the triple birthday party? :ko: :lol:
     
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  21. Buildozer

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    Yeah pretty much the same as before.. this time it soaked for almost an hour.. No heat, mostly because I don't feel AVB is worth the fuss, I have never tried it though.. For straining, I usually just use 2 coffee filters that I wick up w/ water and wring out..

    That bottle did alright hah, it was only like a third of a bottle or so.. It wasn't too strong either.. Everyone was really interested at first, then when it came time to try some they were like, "Uhh, I don't know... I think I hear some one calling me.. Hold on...."... LOL I enjoyed it though.
     

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