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There is a lot of conduction going on. The resulting effects are like that from an Iolite on roids.

My statement is accurate in the sense that breathing in vapour of any kind is less safe than breathing clean air. The magnitude of concern is minimal and not worth noting, but it will be by those with an agenda.

I'm in no way upset, simply promoting logical thinking mate. As you have said you have heard that vaping vg isn't good for you. I have heard the same in past. If you look into the information available you end with a better understanding of the concerns as well as the potential risks. In the...

Vaporising anything cannot be described as safe. As I said, I have looked into it in past and found nothing to be concerned with. The temperature of which concerns become apparent simply are no where near reached with any vaporiser.

You are a scientist.... Congratulations? I explained my vagueness in my post, yet you still feel the need to criticise me for it, only to follow up with your own vagueness? What chemicals in what quantities are released at what temperatures?

Heating VG to specific temps will release something a rather. What it is I don't recall, though the temp that it was released at was high enough for it to be of no concern. Research for yourself, I previously did and as so dismissed any concern.

This thing is amazing. a couple of minutes to get to temp, a couple of minutes to finish a bowl. I had a session with it the other day, when the load was spent I emptied it out, crushed it up and loaded it into an ELB. Cloud preheated to max for 20 minutes, not even a whisper of vapour was left...

Given this beast takes 30 minutes to get to temp I find I need to leave it running for several hours or all day. I have not seen any drop in output other than those relating to variance in powe supply (volts). When dabbing heavily I have noted a resulting decrease in max power consumption, but...

Taste comes down to preference, I prefer the flavour conduction adds. The cloud is my favorite all convection vape. The sub is my favorite vape.

Variation in max power consumption is most likely due to variation in volts. State volts and watts shown on your meter with the unit on max and lets see if there is a pattern. Mine is 61 watts at 121 volts.

Anyone have an update on planet vapes reclaimer?

They work a treat. I have a range of screens for the lsv, eq, iolite, and all the others I can't think to name right now. Of all, including the stock sub screens, I found the lsv wpa screens to be perfect.

Lsv wpa screens ftw.

The cables are the concern mate. Twisting and bending heavily isn't good for them, damadge the conductors, damadge the insulation. With mine I cut the cord where it meets the bottom cap, chiseled the epoxy out of the end cap and drilled the whole out to 12mm then reassembled with a cable gland...

Freddie, get someone to rewire that, looks dodgy as shit inside there.

If you wanted to have a relaxed dragged out session with the sub, you would want a large tube with a whip like that offered with the full sub kit. With this you could fill the tube and than sit back and clear it at your leisure.

Liking the idea of a revised model. The new shell looks nice. Detachable cord is a great idea. Suggestions Mention of a replacable bamboo, make this something that anyone can do at home. Do the same with the heater element, DIY plug in replacement. Having to send units back and play the...

I would love to see a review on this by a cloud owner, if it is on par with it, well its less likely to break, but what I want to know is can it hit harder? :)

After 15 minutes the outside will get pretty hot, the screws more so. Down the bottom is slightly cooler and easier to hold. Mine also had a smell at first, but within a week it was gone.

For those with a cloud plus that has failed, what symptoms are your units showing? I ask as I heard someone had a unit fail and was able to get it going again, maybe some of you will be able to use your clouds sooner than the 3 months quoted.