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A wise man speaks because he has something to say, a fool speaks because he has to say something. I've gotten the answers I was looking for, I have no further questions. If people wants to discuss about butane allergy on my thread, please don't make them stop because I stopped posting.

As I said in my second post, I can't spend more than 40$, I am not seeking a long term vaporizer yet. It is just to try vaporizing, I don't even know yet if i like the vapor high. I don't want to buy a 100$ vaporizer just to realize I prefer the smoking high.

Just an exemple ^^

I appreciate the effort you put into helping me not to get caught x) , but my parents don't got their eyes on me 24/7 quite the contrary actually, it's just that I'll have a hard time hiding a big-ass bong in my closet without them finding out. Any portable sized vape or blubbler won't be a...

I do not plan on vaping in public^^ But I don't really like the fact that I'll be inhaling butane fumes, it seems hard to get the heating right.

They don't look closely at every centimeter of my room, I can afford getting something as big as a bubbler, I'll hide it anyway. mod note: From the rules page- Forum Policies This forum is for mature adults only. We don’t want to hear about you needing to hide things from your parents.

This vape looks like nothing^^ I'd rather get the classic VG

I had absolutely no idea those existed, but after a small google search they seem hard to find. Anyway, as I said, one of my most important criteria is stealth, I live with my parents and they are not fairly in favor of recreational weed use, so I think I'll have a hard time hiding a big-ass...

Thanks for the vid :) Yeah this seems like a good alternative, but unfortunately I don't own a bong and it would cost me more to buy a bong + the stems than a cheap vaporizer as the vaponic or vaporgenie.

I was talking about the Eagle Bill vaporizer when I mentioned the meth pipe. Although the vaponic do look like a crack pipe, but this is not a problem since I will only vaporize when I am alone (I prefer smoking when with friends).

Thanks for your answer. I do not seek the ultime vaping experience, I just want something that is cheap, stealthy, save weed and which produces decent vapor. I definitely would order an Arizer Solo, but I definitely can't put that much money. I need something that cost less than 40$, and there...

Hey I was thinking about buying my first vape and after a lot of research on what would suit me the best, I ended up having to choose between two vaporizers : The VaporGenie and the Vaponic. It seems to me that the Vaponic is way simpler to use, and also cheaper, but apparently it's not as...