Divine Tribe atty's

mrbonsai420 said:

I know most of you , like myself use a PWTA with your DT atty just using some tubing. The 2.5 works with 14 and the 2.7 works with 18mm with no adapters other than silicone. But. I was playing with my new 510 Henail and the bubbler works perfectly on the 2.7 mouthpiece! Check out this portable rig setup.

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It's funny that you would switch that out from the ppwt. I actually don't use my ppwt anymore but Imo it's way better than the henail bubblers. I am not a fan of their bubblers at all. Very little water action and splatter in the mouth makes it obsolete Imo. The ppwt isn't spill proof but is basically a better version (pretty much same perc) of the henail bubbler. It seems you don't mind the size of attached water tools. May I suggest you try some Hydratubes with the 2.7 cap. It will triple the function of that henail and will give you a comparable rig set up for filtration. If you like how the henail hits, the Hydratubes with the dt donut will blow your mind

OH, I love you guys. So DEVOTED to the craft. Love your big photos, Vape Donkey! I was out and about and moon-walked into a vape shop in Paris. Ever wonder who buys those original SvoeMesto V4 RTAs at like a zillion Euros each? They do.

But medical, schmedical, in France they adopted the American approach during the Nixon era, and all cann products are still profoundly unlegal. It's really ironic, because before then nobody cared what you ingested, it was considered a private matter.

But I'll never forget walking into a little cafe to ask for directions. This girl started explaining, drawing sketches on a napkin, and little by little most patrons started coming over to assist, as she was getting mixed up. It was then I realized I was surrounded by a sea of grinning and completely stoned Arabs, every one with a different theory as to how to get there. Most congenial GPS I've ever experienced.

Anyway, the e-cig salesguy was young and cool, fully appreciated the rhyme and reason of my DT + Evic rig. Gave me a roll of SS316L 0.4 mm wire for "Le Dripping" as a sign of bonding. I see it has about 1.5 times the resistance of Ti, so one could build some nice dual/quad coil drippers, with no tendency to oxidize. Anybody here have any experience with SS316L coils in TC mode?


For people who aren't TC believers, the practical side is that it can automate the vaping process by preventing overheating. Overheating destroys part of the oil. What you get from a free-running atomizer is an impressive cloud with only a portion of the available cannabinoids. It's a throwback to smoking, and it's a waste. With a TC rig, a BB sized drop of oil goes a long way, and the atomizer lasts (almost) forever.

The other thing is that there are dozens of active substances in the oil, each has distinct properties, but we never had a way to try them out individually, just as we never had a chance to compare different varieties until the growers created distinct strains. In the Medical Cann states we can now get different strains as morning energizers, afternoon concentration boosters, all the way to after-dinner layback, and nighttime sleeping aids. Same thing with temperature. It's not quite perfected yet, but we can get different ratios by picking the temperature we vape at. It turns the atomizer into a sort of fractional distillation column. Not taking advantage of TC is a lot like not choosing the strain. And did I mention waste? Get a TC rig and try it!


Some thoughts about the "high terpene" concentrates that are coming out. Once the different terpenes become widely available, it will seriously tempt people into cheating. If a strain that's in demand is in short supply, adding terpenes to change the flavor can fool most users into thinking they're getting what the label says. In addition, crap from stems and trim can be made to taste more like best o' buds.

And terpenes aren't risk-free. We've been getting minute quantities in natural cann oils. We know that's pretty safe. But nobody knows what larger doses will do. The claim that using terpenes as solvents or flavor-boosters is natural and therefore perfectly safe is made without the slightest supporting evidence. I'd be more worried about inhaling more terpenes than tried and true e-cig solvents like propylene glycol or glycerin.


FWIW Gearbest is a good source, they respond to customer issues and they accept Paypal. That's worth a lot.

CloudCat said:

I tried it on my eVic-VTC Mini with the exact same result. It's not the Cuboid this time unfortunately. The Cuboid's issues have been very disappointing to me. I like the form factor, the way it fits my hand, and the software, but the 510 connector problems has me using it for the single top it likes.

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KeroZen said:

Hey guys don't forget to update your evic and cuboid firmwares by the way. There has been some known issues with TC when using some particular versions.

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When you say 510 connector problems with the cuboid, do you mean the inaccurate resistance with the DT donut or other attys, or the actual connector pin on the mod itself?

The 510 connector actually feels like one of the strong points on the cuboid. (and mini too) It's screwing in tight and snug the my donuts, and the correct reading eventually settles in. Since I tend to keep the same atty on the same mod, this is a minor annoyance, but I wonder if other cuboider's have had this problem too?

I haven't had this problem at all with any of my evics.

And yes, kero, I've kept my cubes and all my joyetechs up-to-date. Hasn't been new firmware for a few weeks, but this Ω problem with the big cube has remained thru all versions

Volteric said:

A friend sent me this. All I know is that I put a small BB on that stainless steel coil, add a littl VG on the cotton, set at 20 watts and babam. One 6 second toke and it's all gone, very little if any spatter, cool vape, massive clouds. It seems like a mini-rig, but I prefer DT 2.7 ceramic atty because I like taste and enjoy a few more hits than one.

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Seems like a good use for your lil' ol mini-volt since you got your DT on the pico now

I'd bet that alot more people than we would think are doing this with their RDA's since this is the preferred method for tons of people to vape their juice, and there's lots of gear and potential combos to possibly vape concentrates.

Yours here is actually, kind of a smaller, DIY version of the saionara, which appears to me as a high-end customized RDA for concentrates, not juice.

There's a bunch of discussion about this kind of stuff in a few other threads in these forums. But I agree with you, I still prefer the donuts for the slightly higher capacity and flavor.

Since we're showing some of our on-the-road packages, this is what I've been stuffing into my jacket pocket for use during lunch breaks or such. Bringing even a small bubbler or a rig would require a backpack or case, so this is the most I cant manage. The mini-ness and top notch performance of the new cubes is much appreciated by me now. Ryot cases are cool too





Just started a new gram since I finished my old one. This donut load is enough for me for a good session. I don't bother bringing a reload. A little pre melt for the crumbles.

mrbonsai420 said:

I know most of you , like myself use a PWTA with your DT atty just using some tubing. The 2.5 works with 14 and the 2.7 works with 18mm with no adapters other than silicone. But. I was playing with my new 510 Henail and the bubbler works perfectly on the 2.7 mouthpiece! Check out this portable rig setup.

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Steven said:

It's funny that you would switch that out from the ppwt. I actually don't use my ppwt anymore but Imo it's way better than the henail bubblers. I am not a fan of their bubblers at all. Very little water action and splatter in the mouth makes it obsolete Imo. The ppwt isn't spill proof but is basically a better version (pretty much same perc) of the henail bubbler. It seems you don't mind the size of attached water tools. May I suggest you try some Hydratubes with the 2.7 cap. It will triple the function of that henail and will give you a comparable rig set up for filtration. If you like how the henail hits, the Hydratubes with the dt donut will blow your mind

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Looks pretty cool and elaborate for the car. Do you live in a tropical jungle?

I think I read a review for that e-nail and bubbler a while back (or something very similar, a 510-powered mini nail) But the reviewer / commenters complained of the lack of airflow through the bubbler. Like, saying you could only take little sippy-hits and mini-dabs or else you'd waste oil or be overloading the nail.

Steven seems to know what's up with the portable bubblers and dab rigs.

i'm still using my pinnacle water tools. I thought it was just a pwt, what the extra p for? They are a little long, but sturdy. It would be alot better if it was more spill resistant. Ive actually been using one for flowers more, recently. Works great for that too,it's a vey adaptable tool.

But I guess Steve has been spoiling himself with the big hydratube on his donut while in the car?

You driving bubbler guys never fail to amuse me

fernand said:

OH, I love you guys. So DEVOTED to the craft. Love your big photos, Vape Donkey! I was out and about and moon-walked into a vape shop in Paris. Ever wonder who buys those original SvoeMesto V4 RTAs at like a zillion Euros each? They do.

But medical, schmedical, in France they adopted the American approach during the Nixon era, and all cann products are still profoundly unlegal. It's really ironic, because before then nobody cared what you ingested, it was considered a private matter.

But I'll never forget walking into a little cafe to ask for directions. This girl started explaining, drawing sketches on a napkin, and little by little most patrons started coming over to assist, as she was getting mixed up. It was then I realized I was surrounded by a sea of grinning and completely stoned Arabs, every one with a different theory as to how to get there. Most fun GPS I've ever experienced.

Anyway, the e-cig salesguy was young and cool, fully appreciated the rhyme and reason of my DT + Evic rig. Gave me a roll of SS316L 0.4 mm wire for "Le Dripping" as a sign of bonding. I see it has about 1.5 times the resistance of Ti, so one could build some nice dual/quad coil drippers, with no tendency to oxidize. Anybody here have any experience with SS316L coils in TC mode?

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Ha sounds like you were havin a good time. Bonding with random arabs in paris over some friendly vape doesn't shock me. Out in my area (and many areas problably) they own and work at a majority of the smoke-vape shops / head shops. They're down with the hookah.

It seems like youre editing your early post into a masterpiece disseration, so I'll let you finish, but my early take: yep. i think i agree with you

Last new stuff for now: got my brushed steel pico from gearbest today. Took over 4 weeks fernand





Aint she purty (hur hur)

I slipped a clear silicon skin over the new pico, but it looks alot better naked


Check out my atty's Ω! Super donut! I've never seen one that low

Steven said:

It's funny that you would switch that out from the ppwt. I actually don't use my ppwt anymore but Imo it's way better than the henail bubblers. I am not a fan of their bubblers at all. Very little water action and splatter in the mouth makes it obsolete Imo. The ppwt isn't spill proof but is basically a better version (pretty much same perc) of the henail bubbler. It seems you don't mind the size of attached water tools. May I suggest you try some Hydratubes with the 2.7 cap. It will triple the function of that henail and will give you a comparable rig set up for filtration. If you like how the henail hits, the Hydratubes with the dt donut will blow your mind

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I actually have 2 knock off PWTA and 7x Henail bubblers from different versions. I have 2 slot versions, 4 hole versions, 2 hole versions. And out of those 7, 4 are shit and are too restrictive. BUT 3x of them are really quite great and are completely spill proof. 1 good one is the 2 slot version and the other good one is the 4 hole version. Most of the 4 holers were way too restrictive but I got several from China early and cherry picked a few. I still use my PWTA, but if you can find a rare "good" henail bubbler they are close, plus spillproof. Plus the PWTA won't work on the 510 Henail, and that does give you a really nice, big, tasty dab. Although at the expense of a lot of battery life. So comparing it to one of my real enails, hell no it doesn't give you a hit like that. But if you are comparing it to a hit off of a DT donut, the Henail is a bigger, "more dab like" hit. But I will still use the DT more in everyday situations.
I am a glass fiend and I LOVE bubblers. I will connect any vape or pen to any of my 20 bubblers! I love vaping through water.

Vape Donkey 650 said:

Looks pretty cool and elaborate for the car. Do you live in a tropical jungle?

I think I read a review for that e-nail and bubbler a while back (or something very similar, a 510-powered mini nail) But the reviewer / commenters complained of the lack of airflow through the bubbler. Like, saying you could only take little sippy-hits and mini-dabs or else you'd waste oil or be overloading the nail.

Steven seems to know what's up with the portable bubblers and dab rigs.

i'm still using my pinnacle water tools. I thought it was just a pwt, what the extra p for? They are a little long, but sturdy. It would be alot better if it was more spill resistant. Ive actually been using one for flowers more, recently. Works great for that too,it's a vey adaptable tool.

But I guess Steve has been spoiling himself with the big hydratube on his donut while in the car?

You driving bubbler guys never fail to amuse me

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LOL, hell yeah. Actually that is just me about to go for a run in the woods on my lunch break!! I just require a heavy, water filtered medicating session before exercise OR work!

And I don't compare that little henail to my many enails and dab rigs at home, it can't compare. But it definitely keeps up with things like the DT Atty and Yocan stuff in every category except ease of use, battery life , and discreetness. But the hits taste and feel more like a nail hit than a Atomizer hit, and that can be really nice if you know what I mean.

Oh, and the TC on the VTC mini seems to work well at 45-50w in the 550 degree range on the 510 henail. or in power mode for a quick high temp dab. This Battery mod is Awesome with a good 18650!! Thanks for the advise on this one, I have already bought 3 more for other people!

@Vape Donkey 650 all I can say about that Pico is "Oh, man!!" It's gorgeous. Is the firmware reasonably close to the Evic, and do they have frequent updates? How about the button?

Hmm, 4 weeks. That's OK if you're in a "go the mailbox and get something every day" cycle. It's gotten so bad at times I find something and wonder who and when had the brilliant idea to order this thing.

if you like metal atomizers still , a fellow vapor enthusiast named Sai from Humboldt decided to have a go at designing his first atomizer, I am selling them on my site..
here is my honest review of the

saionara atomizer

negatives first
kind of pricey ,
eats a lot of wax or shatter(this might be a good thing for some)
slight metallic flavor toward the end of the session

positives
Huge clouds,
nice adjustable airflow
Clapton, and kanthal twisted coils
nickel coil for temp control
made of metal won't break



http://ineedhemp.com/product/medical-grade-stainless-steel-atomizer-3-types-wrapped-coils-clapton-kanthal-nickel/

I came to this thread looking for info on the different atty's on ineedhemp website. However I got sidetracked with these glass pieces. I'm relatively new to vaping MJ and lost on all the fancy bongs. The 1st and 3rd picture below look very promising. Can you give me direction on a good place to order.

mrbonsai420 said:

I am a glass fiend and I LOVE bubblers. I will connect any vape or pen to any of my 20 bubblers! I love vaping through water.

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Back to the atty's..
What's the difference between the DC 2.7 vs regular 2.7?

I currently rebuild my own e cig atty's and these look the same but I'm not sure. Most of my ecigs are TC although I mainly vape in wattage mode. I have kanthal wire and a small spool of SS316L. Not sure what other items I may need.

Vape Donkey 650 said:

When you say 510 connector problems with the cuboid, do you mean the inaccurate resistance with the DT donut or other attys, or the actual connector pin on the mod itself?

The 510 connector actually feels like one of the strong points on the cuboid. (and mini too) It's screwing in tight and snug the my donuts, and the correct reading eventually settles in. Since I tend to keep the same atty on the same mod, this is a minor annoyance, but I wonder if other cuboider's have had this problem too?

I haven't had this problem at all with any of my evics.

And yes, kero, I've kept my cubes and all my joyetechs up-to-date. Hasn't been new firmware for a few weeks, but this Ω problem with the big cube has remained thru all versions



Seems like a good use for your lil' ol mini-volt since you got your DT on the pico now

I'd bet that alot more people than we would think are doing this with their RDA's since this is the preferred method for tons of people to vape their juice, and there's lots of gear and potential combos to possibly vape concentrates.

Yours here is actually, kind of a smaller, DIY version of the saionara, which appears to me as a high-end customized RDA for concentrates, not juice.

There's a bunch of discussion about this kind of stuff in a few other threads in these forums. But I agree with you, I still prefer the donuts for the slightly higher capacity and flavor.

Since we're showing some of our on-the-road packages, this is what I've been stuffing into my jacket pocket for use during lunch breaks or such. Bringing even a small bubbler or a rig would require a backpack or case, so this is the most I cant manage. The mini-ness and top notch performance of the new cubes is much appreciated by me now. Ryot cases are cool too

Just started a new gram since I finished my old one. This donut load is enough for me for a good session. I don't bother bringing a reload. A little pre melt for the crumbles.

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Ya know, I only came across a review for the atmos kiln not too long ago and somewhere someone made mention that it's a ripoff of divine tribe. That's where I found the 2.7 and got a mod w temp control and now I'm enjoying the coolest smoothest concentrate vapes in a portable! The universe is good at times friends.

Got my Saionora in the mail today. Gotta say Im kind of disappointed.

I only have one coil in the box instead of three. I also can taste remnants of machining oil when I draw through the unit.

I paid more for the unit directly from the manufacturer than Matt sells it for and only got one coil. Thumbs down so far. Not even sure Ill use it. I may just return it.

It would appear I got the Clapton coil.

Mine required significant cleaning with iso before the protective oil came off. A really good scrubbing with an old toothbrush.

CloudCat said:

Mine required significant cleaning with iso before the protective oil came off. A really good scrubbing with an old toothbrush.

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Wish I would have known it was made in China before I purchased but oh well......

how are these recommended?

this is what i have to work with

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin-iTaste-VV-V3-0-Express-Kit-p/ink-vv3-b.htm

does it put out enough power for serious portable dabs?

QuittingVegas said:

I came to this thread looking for info on the different atty's on ineedhemp website. However I got sidetracked with these glass pieces. I'm relatively new to vaping MJ and lost on all the fancy bongs. The 1st and 3rd picture below look very promising. Can you give me direction on a good place to order.
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sure, Top one is an M&M tech bubbler. American piece. I LOVE removable mouthpiece rigs and small bubblers.

http://smokinjs.com/1'-Tall-Hand-Blown-Glass-Shower-Head-Oil-Rig-Bubbler-MMB8M/

The last is a PWTA knock off

http://www.dhgate.com/product/top-q...glass/265989755.html#s1-1-1b;searl|2677346893

Ton's of good stuff from DH Gate. Check out the cheap bubbler thread for info there.

Ive got to say that the Saionara hits like a mack truck. Put a gob of concentrate on the coil and in 2-3 hits, its gone. By far the hardest hitting atty Ive ever used. Almost too hard, if there is such a thing.

PoopMachine said:

Wish I would have known it was made in China before I purchased but oh well......

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It's made really well. All the parts are machined and finished nicely. There aren't sharp edges and all the parts fit together well. The air control turns with just the right amount of resistance, staying exactly where you put it but moving with little effort.

I'm not sure how it could be better being made in the US. Would probably cost at least twice as much as well.

Update to previous:
I've received the Hohm Wrecker G2. It's a pretty thing, if a little unwieldy. Initial results are inconclusive. It does seem to TC my ecig top Herakles 2 with its' .42 ohm atty. Didn't even need to do anything other than turn it to Kanthal, set the top wattage and temp. It worked great.

I've only spent a few minutes with the Saionara wax coil. It's a .28 ohm coil and I haven't found the right FSK setting to control it yet. I'll update when I do (or fail).

PoopMachine said:

Ive got to say that the Saionara hits like a mack truck. Put a gob of concentrate on the coil and in 2-3 hits, its gone. By far the hardest hitting atty Ive ever used. Almost too hard, if there is such a thing.

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Agreed. I've got the air wide open and still am limiting my hits to maybe 5-6 seconds. It's a one or two hit TKO.

CloudCat said:

It's made really well. All the parts are machined and finished nicely. There aren't sharp edges and all the parts fit together well. The air control turns with just the right amount of resistance, staying exactly where you put it but moving with little effort.

I'm not sure how it could be better being made in the US. Would probably cost at least twice as much as well.

Update to previous:
I've received the Hohm Wrecker G2. It's a pretty thing, if a little unwieldy. Initial results are inconclusive. It does seem to TC my ecig top Herakles 2 with its' .42 ohm atty. Didn't even need to do anything other than turn it to Kanthal, set the top wattage and temp. It worked great.

I've only spent a few minutes with the Saionara wax coil. It's a .28 ohm coil and I haven't found the right FSK setting to control it yet. I'll update when I do (or fail).

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Kanthal temp control?

Yes. Kanthal temp control. Still dialing it in. May take a while as testing takes a lot out of me. This thing hits so hard.

CloudCat said:

Yes. Kanthal temp control. Still dialing it in. May take a while as testing takes a lot out of me.

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Pretty damn interesting. Looks like it can also do nichrome.

That's what I hear. I haven't tried.

Here's the brag video from Hohmtech:

Vaporcube has the 151 watt limited edition refurbs for a hundred bucks. Couldn't pass that up. Can't say about one you'd order, but mine came looking like it was brand-new. Not a scratch or any evidence that it was refurbed. Mine came with the next to latest edition firmware, but as the latest firmware just pushes the max watts out to 171, I am in no hurry to update it.

i received my Pico and setup the values and temp to what i have on the TC100W(too heavy)
it works great. looks good in white with the DT on it. i'm glad i got it.

a battery advice question:
should i charge the 18650 with the usb in the pico or use the "better" charger i have from my W9 Herc days?

edit to add: i'm not talking about the w9 chargers, i have tons of those. The charger i bought from Lighthound.

Okay, I think I've figured out the Hohm Wrecker G2. It definitely will TC Kanthal, but it's not completely plug and play. It's not something a casual vaper would want to deal with IMO.

Here's the lowdown: You need to keep a certain ritual for it to work as it's crazy sensitive and anything can screw with it. Before every session, you need to unscrew the atty and hit the fire button so it notices no atty. Then screw the atty back in and hit fire again for it to read it fresh. It'll recalibrate and everything works. Without this ritual, it mysteriously doesn't work with exactly the same settings on a new session.

I don't know if it is temperature or wind direction or what that's throwing it off, but recalibrating before a session makes it work again. Works great though. Stops it from combusting wax and it still hits like a truck.

I did update the firmware and it seems there's a setting for tungsten now. Labeled "W" in the Insane Temps Mode menu. Wonder if that would work with tungsten in ceramic....

Was about to order the 2.5 + eleaf battery but their site says version 3 is comng out soon?
should i not order until then?