Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)

WakeAndVape said:

Yes! And there are detailed accounts of it if you search the thread!

I believe some of the earliest folks with them only had concentrates and gave good details on procedures and results.

They do work great however.

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I've used wax and shatter just never used the hash oil, almost looks like black hard jelly! I wanted to purchase some sour d but passed because I didn't know if it was possible like it was with shatter. The hash oil seems super thick as sticky like taffy

murf2010 said:

I've used wax and shatter just never used the hash oil, almost looks like black hard jelly! I wanted to purchase some sour d but passed because I didn't know if it was possible like it was with shatter. The hash oil seems super thick as sticky like taffy

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All full melt hashes react the same way when heated.

But even traditional hashes will vape in the mi

Are you new to concentrates?

Dramma Lamma said:

Huffing glue must be a great bonus here, as I'm 100% certain you all are doing it to some degree or another. Perhaps you just have a poor sense of smell/taste, or are to scared to admit the design is poor and that the $$ was a bad spend

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I mentioned the smell very clearly when it happened, and the glue was claimed safe with a curing process so I figured I would give it some time to let the glue cure. The taste was never defined and it's difficult to know if you actually are with the taste of herb. With a dry unit, I can't taste it if I apply heat and inhale. Also, the glue is on the opposite end of the intake. I don't believe the air will ever pass over it. I said it "possibly may have had"... doesn't seem like the most definitive answer ...

It's hard to differentiate between taste and smell sometimes, but it 100% had a smell, still not sure about the taste. New unit will help me know if it was in my head or actually in my taste buds. Like I said though, hitting it without any herb in it did not yield a taste other than a used stem.

Maybe it's just cuz I'm huffing glue and therefore can't take a big draw....

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I used the MI all day yesterday and was getting mysterious headaches (I only get a few a year, extremely rare for me)
It would slowly be getting better, then would be right back after a few draws from MI.

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Also, not sure why you required my specific input to decide that you are huffing glue. You couldn't have figured that out with your own senses? Seems more of an attack on me. Which, again, I don't believe I'm huffing glue, because it's on the opposite end of the intake, has never changed form, has never dripped or showed any sign of reacting to the heat...Shouldn't you have been mad at the glue and significantly earlier than my post about glue? Where was your post about your headache before saying "wtf" about mine?

Ill admit what a lot of people here seem to be to chicken to say: "I got ripped off here, you all convinced me the issues I knew I would have were sorted out or a non-issue, that was wrong and I wasted $$ here."

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I also find this to be quite the opposite. I think many people would jump at the opportunity to talk shit about RBT and be upset about his QC and CS, but, in the end, many of the nay-sayers are enjoying their unit, and the ones who didn't have sold theirs and moved on.

My unit doesn't (and didn't) smell/taste of glue or anything else.
If I fire her up without any herb the only taste is of 'hot air', I can't even taste 'hot metal', which I have experienced before on other vapes.

And I for one would never dream of misleading people regarding health issues.

The presence of glue in both the RBT vapes is handled in such a way that it doesn't worry me in the least.

WakeAndVape said:

All full melt hashes react the same way when heated.

But even traditional hashes will vape in the mi

Are you new to concentrates?

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Sort of new yeah. I mean I have a ff2 and a Mi. Used concentrates in both but never owned a nail or anything. No rig. What's the difference in the medicated effects from full melt hash to shatter? I have super super clear shatter, their unreal. Sunset sherbet is what I've been using and I can get a MONSTER hit out of the Mi partnered with long stem.

murf2010 said:

Sort of new yeah. I mean I have a ff2 and a Mi. Used concentrates in both but never owned a nail or anything. No rig. What's the difference in the medicated effects from full melt hash to shatter? I have super super clear shatter, their unreal. Sunset sherbet is what I've been using and I can get a MONSTER hit out of the Mi partnered with long stem.

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I'm not a science guy, so probably not the one to answer that question with the clarity it deserves...nor is this the thread for it, but in the mi...the hash oil will preform the same as the shatter as far as your method, stuff with plant material in it won't.

Shatters and oil vary widely by flowers used, buds vs shake, curing method, solvent used, ect...

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That's not how it works. If you are intoxicated in any way shape or form they can and will take you in. Doesn't matter if its "medicinal" or not. I've got the T-shirt.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure that's how it works. You've kinda said the same thing I did...

WakeAndVape said:

I'm not a science guy, so probably not the one to answer that question with the clarity it deserves...nor is this the thread for it, but in the mi...the hash oil will preform the same as the shatter as far as your method, stuff with plant material in it won't.

Shatters and oil vary widely by flowers used, buds vs shake, curing method, solvent used, ect...

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Do you feel like the high from concentrates are all
Similar or will hash treat me way different than shatter? That's probably an impossible question to answer lol

So have any of you wood butchers on here tried finishing your wood with coconut oil? I used it for an outdoor fir shelf a couple of months ago and it looks great. Feels nice on the rough fir (finished with a grinder. It's an outdoor beer ledge). Anyhoo, just a question as I've never tried it on weird before...

Mi 3 arrived today from PV, ordered Mon. Pebbles (m1) is spare parts, BamBam (m2) is kicking ass, m3 needs a name. Finish is best yet, smooth, uniform, recessed, I can see white epoxy, all neat, screen over intake perfectly in place. Awesome looking piece of wood.
I am not planning to rotate just yet, as I haven't given up on Pebbles, more advice, research, repair called for, and Pebbles and BamBam will tag team, while Mi Precious sits on her shelf, all pretty. I want to give her a dark tone, lots of research to get a coffee or chocolate kinda nano effect.

In the meantime, the new PV stems arrived and I'm testing today.

PVFS

Those PV stems look very, very nice. Looking forward to them being available.

I picked up and used my Milaana for 1 day. I have been a mighty daily heavy user since November 2014.

I also bought and sold a pax2 recently.
Didn't like it.
I got a retail unit at planetvape.ca. I am happy at the moment. First few attempts were not great. But managed a few good ones last night.
So far great backup and secondary manual vape
I like that I have the options as far as power. Really riding the needle and flirting with combustion which I have done so far.

I tried many techniques and grinds. I found with stem in, preheat up to 5 seconds, let go and you can pull hard or soft. It almost wont combust if you draw right after releasing button.
Then I draw a bit. Button a bit. Feather etc.
Yes you can get tasty hits. Not near as dense as I can with mighty. So I'm glad I have both.

And I have a fairly strong glue smell!!! Seems to be going away now.

I find this vape is not super consistent as far as browning and charring. It does get every bit extracted out of herbs pushing to near combustion. I feel I won't be able to make edibles from my Milaana abv like I do with mighty.

Over all I am happy to have it.
I hope this glue smell is just cuz it's a recent manufacture.
Overall it looks good and has the screen air intake.

@PlanetVape did an awesome job with cs. They walked me through using it and battery stuff. Great guys and gals there. Love planetvape.ca.

Here's the milaana with the stock shorty and the planetvape.ca shorty which uses extreme q screens. Easy to preload pop in and out. Like theirs the best so far.
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Heres the abv milaana on right mighty on left.
I will see what the milaana abv does through the mighty. Bet I'll get a puff.

All and all I am happy I bought it. Dont be surprised though even though the company is called rbt . It is a company and the cost compared to the retail price. They are marking it up large to me.

All di best

AJS said:

I mentioned the smell very clearly when it happened, and the glue was claimed safe with a curing process so I figured I would give it some time to let the glue cure. The taste was never defined and it's difficult to know if you actually are with the taste of herb. With a dry unit, I can't taste it if I apply heat and inhale. Also, the glue is on the opposite end of the intake. I don't believe the air will ever pass over it. I said it "possibly may have had"... doesn't seem like the most definitive answer ...

It's hard to differentiate between taste and smell sometimes, but it 100% had a smell, still not sure about the taste. New unit will help me know if it was in my head or actually in my taste buds. Like I said though, hitting it without any herb in it did not yield a taste other than a used stem.




Also, not sure why you required my specific input to decide that you are huffing glue. You couldn't have figured that out with your own senses? Seems more of an attack on me. Which, again, I don't believe I'm huffing glue, because it's on the opposite end of the intake, has never changed form, has never dripped or showed any sign of reacting to the heat...Shouldn't you have been mad at the glue and significantly earlier than my post about glue? Where was your post about your headache before saying "wtf" about mine?


I also find this to be quite the opposite. I think many people would jump at the opportunity to talk shit about RBT and be upset about his QC and CS, but, in the end, many of the nay-sayers are enjoying their unit, and the ones who didn't have sold theirs and moved on.

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Ok it's not a peronal attack, so stop acting like it is.

Go thru a few pages of the nano thread, people will mention how the cord is a bit of a frustration, go a few pages of the crafty/mighty threads and you'll see something about poor lifespan, read briefly about the GH and you'll learn the batteries leave a lot to be desired.

With a quick and simple cursory glance you can read about the biggest issue the vapes all have.

But glue here, not mentioned prevalantly.
And to that I say, WTF FC? How and why is this not being discussed in large volume?

Hell you yourself even admitted you didn't want to talk about it. Why? Are you concerned someone would jump on you, like you are jumping on me here?

WakeAndVape said:

I'm not a science guy, so probably not the one to answer that question with the clarity it deserves...nor is this the thread for it, but in the mi...the hash oil will preform the same as the shatter as far as your method, stuff with plant material in it won't.

Shatters and oil vary widely by flowers used, buds vs shake, curing method, solvent used, ect...

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I just went and grabbed a gram of sour d full
Melt hash. I'll report back looks great!!!!

Dramma Lamma said:

But glue here, not mentioned prevalantly.
And to that I say, WTF FC? How and why is this not being discussed in large volume?

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Gosh, I wonder. Maybe because it isn't a problem noticed and therefore mentioned by a lot of people? Do you think that might be a factor? Maybe?

I personally have had no glue issues with either of my RBT products. So, of course, I have never mentioned glue issues. Duh.

Recieved my Milaana an hour ago. Had a mini session. At the end I tasted the glue. Thats not good is it? How toxic is it to breathe glue fume/vapor?

I'm happy it works but worrying about the glue...

Will write more later.

Here's my question with those planet vape stems...I thought u weren't supposed to use the arizer basket screens because of that metal lip.. I had really good results but I believe maybe @Shit Snacks had said rbt advised against using the baskets because the lip and the screen or something along those lines..hopefully I'm just crazy and imagining things because I likes those over the rbt dome screens..

I smelled the female joint after heating and definitely got a whiff of glue, but I have never tasted it during a session.

I thought the glue issue was discussed during beta testing, as well as by a few members thereafter. The consensus was that the while glue isn't the safest option, it isn't in the airpath and thus not a concern?

interestingly enough I haven't been feeling 100% the last few weeks (headaches, and feeling "off"). not ready to blame the Mi, but the timing is suspicious.

suprised you weren't more concerned by the taste of glue @AJS (not a personal attack, you did post about it and let other people know. whether you choose to continue using the unit is your business). do you mind commenting on why you were able to to look past the glue taste and continue using?

I mentioned it in my post. Glue smell. New unit. Not super hype on that. I'll keep you posted. We should all do the same.

subway13029 said:

Here's my question with those planet vape stems...I thought u weren't supposed to use the arizer basket screens because of that metal lip.. I had really good results but I believe maybe @Shit Snacks had said rbt advised against using the baskets because the lip and the screen or something along those lines..hopefully I'm just crazy and imagining things because I likes those over the rbt dome screens..

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I don't know for sure this is just a guess, but it looks like those pv stems males are much shorter. The issue was the lip resting on the heater and damaging over time, so with it being shorter might not cause problems.

I have never smelled glue in my unit.

No glue on mine. Will check when the new ones arrive and report back with what will surely be a long list of issues, like the other two. Oh, wait. No issues. Fit and finish could be perfecter, but it's not a decoration. I treat it like a tool. I'm kinda surprised I haven't at least broken a stem yet...

i want one of those planet vape stems.. they cut down the ground glass so you can but the basket in there.. super smart. i have never smelled glue in my unit either, though i can see the white epoxy.

My milaana smells like raw wood around the glass joint. No glue smell or taste. Mine is 7-14 days old I estimate.

Seems like a lot of the units with glue smell or taste are new ones that shipped after the manufacturing pause to work on better quality control. Am I wrong about that?

DocGonzo said:

Seems like a lot of the units with glue smell or taste are new ones that shipped after the manufacturing pause to work on better quality control. Am I wrong about that?

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I ordered mine the last few days of May from PV