The Firefly 2 vaporizer

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mitchgo61

mitchgo61

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MonsterWithoutBorders said:
If we believe Sneaky Pete and his video it is a bug. And it is a bug. It makes no sense. It is completely cold when it has this behavior. It is not standing by. It seems that Sneaky Pete talked to FF and they
agreed this is a bug.
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If we are talking about the precise behavior described in the bit you quoted, I spoke to them about this weeks ago and confirmed this was stand-by/sleep behavior. Personally I'll take the word of the guy who designed the device over "Sneaky Pete" any day.

(To be clear, the behavior described above is the stand-by/sleep feature. There may well be versions of the "static green light" that are bugs...I don't know exactly what behavior was discussed with FF...but the behavior that dooms describes above, quite succinctly, is not a bug.)
 
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mitchgo61 said:
If we are talking about the precise behavior described in the bit you quoted, I spoke to them about this weeks ago and confirmed this was stand-by/sleep behavior. Personally I'll take the word of the guy who designed the device over "Sneaky Pete" any day.

(To be clear, the behavior described above is the stand-by/sleep feature. There may well be versions of the "static green light" that are bugs...I don't know exactly what behavior was discussed with FF...but the behavior that dooms describes above, quite succinctly, is not a bug.)
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100% agree with this. Its very obvious this is what it is too. Tap both buttons to "wake it up" and then proceed as normal.

Not for nothing....this is kind of strange to complain about it literally takes an extra second to wake it up.
 
buckhakeesah

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doomsdalicious said:
Been using this rig for awhile now and a couple things that I've noticed:
  • As everyone says, the battery meter is way off. I'll run the thing into the ground and right up until the end it says full battery on both the device and the app.
  • What is the deal with the blue light? It seems to work properly the first time (flash until it heats up), but they i'll come back to the vape sometimes even 30 min later and it won't flash (just solid blue as if it's heated and ready). There is no way that it can possibly still be hot at this point. It seems to me that it's sort of a fake light and doesn't actually correspond with the units heat, rather provide a warm fuzzy to the user that the device has heated up. A better way for me to ensure I get a good hot bowl is to heat it up until the bowl glows, then unpress the button and repress, otherwise sometimes the auto-off on the unit will shut it down mid-pull (which is not fun).
Anyways, anyone else noticed these two things? And do we think that FF can resolve these issues with updated firmware? Do we know how they are going to release the firmware? Simply through the app and wirelessly push it to the FF?

BTW, not ripping this thing. I think highly of it. Never had a better vape and I've had Crafty, Pax, MFLB, etc. I think my favorite part is that the last pull is virtually as good as the first and I could never say that, about the Pax especially.
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I keep hearing this comment from new FF2 owners, taste throughout is as good as first pull. I like to take my material as far as possible. Most of my vapes, I usually get 3-4 really tasty pulls and it then it drifts off. My Air for example on white or blue provide a nice clean taste for about this many pulls or more depending on material used and then I start moving up temp to higher extractions. Are you guys exaggerating this a bit, cause if this is true, this might be the reason for me to finally breakdown down and try one.
 
Elac

Elac

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About the green warmup light I can tell you this.
If you remove the heating element and touch the buttons the green light blinks for around 5 second then turns solid as if it was a normal warmup.
 
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stinkytofus

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vapecritic says it uses about .10 to .15

i packed my haze v3 herb canister full, tamp it down, dumped it into the firefly, to my surprise... uses same amount, haze v3 is herb cans is suppose to be .25 to .40grams
 
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MonsterWithoutBorders

MonsterWithoutBorders

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mitchgo61 said:
If we are talking about the precise behavior described in the bit you quoted, I spoke to them about this weeks ago and confirmed this was stand-by/sleep behavior. Personally I'll take the word of the guy who designed the device over "Sneaky Pete" any day.

(To be clear, the behavior described above is the stand-by/sleep feature. There may well be versions of the "static green light" that are bugs...I don't know exactly what behavior was discussed with FF...but the behavior that dooms describes above, quite succinctly, is not a bug.)
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Concerning led green solid after firefly inactive for a period of time. Called by some the standby feature.

Just talked to firefly. This is now NOT a feature but a known bug to be fixed in a firmware update to be delivered by way of the app (updated). They said soon for the new firmware.
 
Baron23

Baron23

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MonsterWithoutBorders said:
Concerning led green solid after firefly inactive for a period of time. Called by some the standby feature.

Just talked to firefly. This is now NOT a feature but a known bug to be fixed in a firmware update to be delivered by way of the app (updated). They said soon for the new firmware.
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Too funny, thanks for going to the source and not just taking a defensive stance :rofl::clap::bang:
 
Stoney Baloney

Stoney Baloney

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MonsterWithoutBorders said:
If we believe Sneaky Pete and his video it is a bug. And it is a bug. It makes no sense. It is completely cold when it has this behavior. It is not standing by. It seems that Sneaky Pete talked to FF and they
agreed this is a bug.
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Hey monster! U, sneaky pete and any other person who thinks the warm up light is buggy is absolutely NOT wrong, there is def something wrong with it. If you are using ur vape and u think the light should be blinking when its not, just let go of the touch sensor and then put ur finger back on it again, it will start blinking as if the vape realizes that its not ready to go yet. Personally its not a big deal to me at all, I just didnt want you think you have gone crazy.

Edit: Sorry it seems u already figured it out, I didnt see your last message!
 
mitchgo61

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
MonsterWithoutBorders said:
Concerning led green solid after firefly inactive for a period of time. Called by some the standby feature.

Just talked to firefly. This is now NOT a feature but a known bug to be fixed in a firmware update to be delivered by way of the app (updated). They said soon for the new firmware.
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I got some clarity on this myself. First, mark down the date and time that I was wrong about something! :p (Stop laughing, Slow Draw! :lol:) I like Monster's use of the word "now" because six weeks ago I understood this to be an intended feature, since when it was discussed it was described as "sleep mode". But in fact, it's not intended, and it is a bug, even though it's completely consistent.

Apparently after six minutes of inactivity, the FF needs to be awakened by a touch on the buttons; the next touch is the one that activates it. That's it. Totally consistent, and all that's required to work-around it is...touch the buttons a second time. (If you wanted to design a sleep mode, this is how it would work, which is again probably why I misunderstood the lack of intent behind this behavior. Because apparently they didn't want to design a sleep mode. :p)

Sorry if I caused any undue confusion (because when were us vapists ever confused about vape features? :lol:) The good news is as bugs go it's pretty benign, it acts more like a feature than your average bug, and they are fixing it probably within the next six weeks with a firmware update.

(It's possible there was a missed opportunity here: "Firefly 2: Now with Sleep Mode!" ;))
 
Baron23

Baron23

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mitchgo61 said:
I got some clarity on this myself. First, mark down the date and time that I was wrong about something! :p (Stop laughing, Slow Draw! :lol:) I like Monster's use of the word "now" because six weeks ago I understood this to be an intended feature, since when it was discussed it was described as "sleep mode". But in fact, it's not intended, and it is a bug, even though it's completely consistent.

Apparently after six minutes of inactivity, the FF needs to be awakened by a touch on the buttons; the next touch is the one that activates it. That's it. Totally consistent, and all that's required to work-around it is...touch the buttons a second time. (If you wanted to design a sleep mode, this is how it would work, which is again probably why I misunderstood the lack of intent behind this behavior. Because apparently they didn't want to design a sleep mode. :p)

Sorry if I caused any undue confusion (because when were us vapists ever confused about vape features? :lol:) The good news is as bugs go it's pretty benign, it acts more like a feature than your average bug, and they are fixing it probably within the next six weeks with a firmware update.

(It's possible there was a missed opportunity here: "Firefly 2: Now with Sleep Mode!" ;))
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Thanks Mitch. I rather agree with you...it should be a feature. Not being touched for 6 minutes, go to sleep. I think if they just included that in their manual all would be well and they wouldn't have to make a change.
 
pushpaw

pushpaw

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doomsdalicious said:
According to what you are saying, there is a standby mode. This seems to expire at some point as well, because if I wait long enough in between sessions (for example, overnight) the next time I come back to it, it will flash again.

Seems to only be between those breaks that the green light will not re-flash unless you unpress and repress the buttons (after waking the unit as you say).
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Others have already replied to this a bit, but I wanted to add one thing that I have noticed (and I think I said this way back in the thread somewhere too, but anyway.) When I first noticed this it seemed intermittent, but then I realized that sometimes when I go to use it my fingers touch the buttons at the same time and if it has not been 'woken' already then it will go straight to the solid green light. But sometimes one finger will touch one side slightly before the other, or I may touch one button while picking it up or loading it or whatever, and this is enough to wake it up.

I have always figured this was a bug and that it is supposed to both wake and begin flashing/heating at the same time, and that they will update at some point so that it does.
 
doomsdalicious

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pushpaw said:
Others have already replied to this a bit, but I wanted to add one thing that I have noticed (and I think I said this way back in the thread somewhere too, but anyway.) When I first noticed this it seemed intermittent, but then I realized that sometimes when I go to use it my fingers touch the buttons at the same time and if it has not been 'woken' already then it will go straight to the solid green light. But sometimes one finger will touch one side slightly before the other, or I may touch one button while picking it up or loading it or whatever, and this is enough to wake it up.

I have always figured this was a bug and that it is supposed to both wake and begin flashing/heating at the same time, and that they will update at some point so that it does.
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Yep, agreed. I always wonder why sometimes it flashes right away (after break) and sometimes it does not. The more that I think about it, I accidentally touch the buttons a lot, so this would unknowingly wake it up so when I go in for it, it will flash (whereas if I don't accidentally touch the buttons, it will be solid and I'll have to wake). Seems weird either way. IMHO it should always register the heat of the unit and flash until its reached proper temp. Let's hope they make this happen with the update (and fix the battery level bug!)!
 
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The Natty Leprechaun

The Natty Leprechaun

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So I had to send my ff2 in for warranty and it has been 3 days and I have no vape to medicate with . I can not believe how nasty tasting combustion is to me now I feel like I have been hypnotized because I have been combusting for 20 plus years and always could taste the herb and now after having a vape as my daily go to piece all I can taste from combustion is so repulsive to me now.
So even though I was having low battery life issues with the ff2 that little vape has helped me say Fuckcombustion for good well at least till I get my vape back which might be awhile so I have cut back a lot on medicating since combustion is my only current option I thought I could send the vape out and go back to my old Glass bowl while I wait (THINK AGAIN) I am going to break down and get a desktop vape so my question is what desk top has the same quality of taste that the ff2 does and is easy to use not to restrictive and get some decent vapor that leaves you feeling well medicated no questioning is this thing working ?and some what conservative where you can take a puff or 2 and come back whenever to take some more
While using the ff2 my wife was not a big fan of it she had a tough time getting medicated even though I felt the effects most of the time . I think she was not patient enough to get the right draw technique and found that it was to restrictive and got light headed more often than well medicated and she would end up firing up the old combustion piece instead .
So I have been looking into the e nano ,the cloud Evo ,and the volcano I also am interested in the herbalizer but can't afford the price tag thanks for any suggestion
I think if I could not use a vape to medicate with now I would rather quit than fill my body with that nasty smoke and I only had this vape for 10 days before sending it back . The ff2 helped me to tell what this medication is supposed to taste like and what nasty stuff I have been putting in my lungs all these years.
 
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Baron23

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The Natty Leprechaun said:
So I had to send my ff2 in for warranty and it has been 3 days and I have no vape to medicate with . I can not believe how nasty tasting combustion is to me now I feel like I have been hypnotized because I have been combusting for 20 plus years and always could taste the herb and now after having a vape as my daily go to piece all I can taste from combustion is so repulsive to me now.
So even though I was having low battery life issues with the ff2 that little vape has helped me say Fuckcombustion for good well at least till I get my vape back which might be awhile so I have cut back a lot on medicating since combustion is my only current option I thought I could send the vape out and go back to my old Glass bowl while I wait (THINK AGAIN) I am going to break down and get a desktop vape so my question is what desk top has the same quality of taste that the ff2 does and is easy to use not to restrictive and get some decent vapor that leaves you feeling well medicated no questioning is this thing working ?and some what conservative where you can take a puff or 2 and come back whenever to take some more
While using the ff2 my wife was not a big fan of it she had a tough time getting medicated even though I felt the effects most of the time . I think she was not patient enough to get the right draw technique and found that it was to restrictive and got light headed more often than well medicated and she would end up firing up the old combustion piece instead .
So I have been looking into the e nano ,the cloud Evo ,and the volcano I also am interested in the herbalizer but can't afford the price tag thanks for any suggestion
I think if I could not use a vape to medicate with now I would rather quit than fill my body with that nasty smoke and I only had this vape for 10 days before sending it back . The ff2 helped me to tell what this medication is supposed to taste like and what nasty stuff I have been putting in my lungs all these years.
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Need to be careful and not hijack this thread, but the Volcano is unbeatable for consistent results, ease of use, and the ability to fill a bag or partially fill a bag and then set the chamber aside for the next session.
 
mitchgo61

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
The Natty Leprechaun said:
So I had to send my ff2 in for warranty and it has been 3 days and I have no vape to medicate with . I can not believe how nasty tasting combustion is to me now I feel like I have been hypnotized because I have been combusting for 20 plus years and always could taste the herb and now after having a vape as my daily go to piece all I can taste from combustion is so repulsive to me now.
So even though I was having low battery life issues with the ff2 that little vape has helped me say Fuckcombustion for good well at least till I get my vape back which might be awhile so I have cut back a lot on medicating since combustion is my only current option I thought I could send the vape out and go back to my old Glass bowl while I wait (THINK AGAIN) I am going to break down and get a desktop vape so my question is what desk top has the same quality of taste that the ff2 does and is easy to use not to restrictive and get some decent vapor that leaves you feeling well medicated no questioning is this thing working ?and some what conservative where you can take a puff or 2 and come back whenever to take some more
While using the ff2 my wife was not a big fan of it she had a tough time getting medicated even though I felt the effects most of the time . I think she was not patient enough to get the right draw technique and found that it was to restrictive and got light headed more often than well medicated and she would end up firing up the old combustion piece instead .
So I have been looking into the e nano ,the cloud Evo ,and the volcano I also am interested in the herbalizer but can't afford the price tag thanks for any suggestion
I think if I could not use a vape to medicate with now I would rather quit than fill my body with that nasty smoke and I only had this vape for 10 days before sending it back . The ff2 helped me to tell what this medication is supposed to taste like and what nasty stuff I have been putting in my lungs all these years.
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Any convection vape will suit your needs. A log like the Nano is a nice choice. Easy, on demand, great flavor.

You definitely need more than one vape, for exactly this reason....ports break and need service. Back on topic, glad the FF was helping you. Hopefully it returns quickly!
 
mitchgo61,
Vapenado

Vapenado

..you can put your weed in it
The Natty Leprechaun said:
So I had to send my ff2 in for warranty and it has been 3 days and I have no vape to medicate with . I can not believe how nasty tasting combustion is to me now I feel like I have been hypnotized because I have been combusting for 20 plus years and always could taste the herb and now after having a vape as my daily go to piece all I can taste from combustion is so repulsive to me now.
So even though I was having low battery life issues with the ff2 that little vape has helped me say Fuckcombustion for good well at least till I get my vape back which might be awhile so I have cut back a lot on medicating since combustion is my only current option I thought I could send the vape out and go back to my old Glass bowl while I wait (THINK AGAIN) I am going to break down and get a desktop vape so my question is what desk top has the same quality of taste that the ff2 does and is easy to use not to restrictive and get some decent vapor that leaves you feeling well medicated no questioning is this thing working ?and some what conservative where you can take a puff or 2 and come back whenever to take some more
While using the ff2 my wife was not a big fan of it she had a tough time getting medicated even though I felt the effects most of the time . I think she was not patient enough to get the right draw technique and found that it was to restrictive and got light headed more often than well medicated and she would end up firing up the old combustion piece instead .
So I have been looking into the e nano ,the cloud Evo ,and the volcano I also am interested in the herbalizer but can't afford the price tag thanks for any suggestion
I think if I could not use a vape to medicate with now I would rather quit than fill my body with that nasty smoke and I only had this vape for 10 days before sending it back . The ff2 helped me to tell what this medication is supposed to taste like and what nasty stuff I have been putting in my lungs all these years.
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The herbalizer is much better than the volcano. Check it out...
Although, there's absolutely no harm in a 2nd FF. Mine is my go to.....everytime. I dread the thought of having to send it in for repair. If I didn't already have a few backups....I'd seriously consider buying another.
You're so bang on with combustion. I recall having an urge to smoke a doob some months after my first vaporizer....it was disgusting.
 
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The Natty Leprechaun

The Natty Leprechaun

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Thanks for the advice /suggestions
I also was experiencing this stand by mode bug and would go solid green light after not being used sometimes overnight for 12 hours or more . I wonder if that has something to do with the lack of battery life i was having .
The activation buttons seemed to work sporadically too mostly on the right side one would not be able to sense I was touching it I would have to use my ring or pinky finger on that button .
My hands are very rough construction worker hands and my left hand ring and pinky fingers are softer than the rest and my wife never seemed to have that issue
I did try the option for activation from either button it helped but I found it was a lot easier to unintentionally activate taking it out of my pocket or picking it up and would rather conserve the 1 1/2 to 2 bowls I was getting per battery .
I hope Firefly can get these bugs/issues worked out soon so we all can experience the full potential of this vape
I am glad I bought the ff2 even though I have had some minor issues that I am sure will get resolved and I will have a solid working ff2 soon. It was worth it just to have this awakening to how unhealthy using combustion to medicate is and there is no way I can go back to using anything less in the quality of taste that the ff2 delivers
 
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jdent3

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I've now had my ff2 for 5 days and I've grown to like it more each day. The first day I was dissapointed with it but I knew everyone mentioned the learning curve so I kept experimenting. So far I found a coarse grind by using my hands produced very little vapor. My 4 piece Zeus grinder seems to work well for grind consistency. I've found packing it full and tamping it a little works best. Stirring seems to be necessary every 3 to 4 hits and I get about 6 to 9 hits per bowl starting on High. As far as drawing I found it best to draw slowly as many others have stated. The draw resistance is too high to do anything but a slow draw. I suggest all new ff2 users try it with various grind consistencies and draw speeds. Don't get frustrated and rush to sell it as you'll find the results very rewarding after working to get the best results.
 
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