Cheap High Quality Bubbler

ataxian

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If you're talking Authentic Mobius vs a Chinese Knockoff, from a pure functionality standpoint, I'd get a chinese knockoff. If it breaks, it's much cheaper to replace, and you can get 2 from different sellers and have a backup for under the price of an authentic.

You both should be more specific about your concerns though I guess if you're trying to decide between the knockoff and the real thing.

Edit: Now that I have a knock off piece, I don't feel so scared whenever someone is smoking my bong/vape. Before, I'd worry they'd drop my Mobius piece, but now it's nice and safe and I have a $20 bubbler to use instead. I'm hoping the thickness is better on the other pieces I ordered from Kathy though and interested to see how Steven and CCG play out.

Edit2: Steven has a couple new glass pieces in if this wasn't mentioned already. Smaller 8 inch Mothership clones of the Klein and Taurus recyclers. Also a slightly larger piece with what looks to be double circ percs?
How is steven's glass thickness especially around the stem? I found Kathy's to be weak. I guess I'll know for sure though once I place my order I think I'll test 2-3 pieces from him as well including another little cake rig so I can directly compare the quality of the 2.
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/ might be better for you.

FC, kathy57, sunshine, clearglass, liberty and more!
5mm thick minium
Custom 7 or 9MM thickness.

I have both because I break glass more than most!

@Andrew26 FC186 works with a "Q"
D020-D I don't have? (FC 187 is what I have instead)
The FC MOUTHPIECE work with a NANO or Q even a EVO.

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Andrew26

Happy Dabber
@abcd5432 I'm strictly talking dhgate. I wouldn't ever be comparing a 300$ bong to a 30$ bong lol. The Mobius is from Steven on dhgate.
Was trying to decide between the D020-D or mobius matrix with sidecar and improved birdcage perc. Will only be using it with my Extreme Q and dabs.
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
That perc was in your dreams I remember you saying, now its going to be in my dreams.

That piece looks terrific. Have you run the E-Nano through it?

nano fuckin hums through this thing!! It does steal just a little flavor, but worth it for the ride IMO. Not all the time, but it is fun to hit. With the added diffusion smoothing things out, I can take bigger hits from this, too.

Best fun so far was a concentrate sandwich using some stuff that had a bit of a bite (and makes me want to cough a little). Had nano about 8.0, just a little rough ground above and below and a nice chunk of shatter in between. Nice, full, tasty hits forever. OK.... not forever, but at least 10 huge ones and a few more (5/6?)lighter ones while I hit it here and there for the next hour or so. Not much more than a tickle in the back of my throat, even with this stuff, which is noteworthy.

Forgot to post in my first review, but this bubb has a weird almost tinky sound when you hit it and changes tone when you clear it. Was kind of odd at first, but really kind of like it!

That glassartist piece looks nice. I already have a D020-D for my DBV but I was wondering if you think it's worth it to upgrade to the glassartist piece. Thanks,

IMO? Yes! Or, the sidecar below. D020-D is a great piece, but if you're ready for a little more volume either of these (this or sidecar) would be a nice upgrade. The glassartist one is more $ (close to 2x I think), but it really is well done for a Chinese piece. Don't get me wrong - I love all my cheap pieces - but there is a noticeable difference in both form and function. True reti gives some more action, slits are pretty damned uniform for Chinese (not perfect, but more perfect than most DHGate I've seen) and piece has a nice girth/feel to it. I was worried about the weld to the mouthpiece. It's solid, even if not the most perfect work. Didn't get a good pic of it on last photo-shoot. Will try to get one up soon.

Hey guys I was looking thru the last 10 pages to see if anyone has or likes the Mobius Matrix sidecar with improved birdcage perc?
I wanted to use it with my Extreme Q and also Dabs as well and I'm stuck trying to decide between the D020-D or the Mobius Matrix? Any tips or suggestions I'd really appreciate :) thank you

Different strokes for different folks and all, but if I were you I'd get this sidecar piece. I have one that is the original and still love it. If you're looking for just a bit more can size and diffusion (and want to buck up the extra $) go for the glassartist piece I've been talking about. If you just want one solid, decent piece for a great price - get the sidecar!

Be forewarned you have to be more creative with dabs on a center dewar joint bubbler (joint on top of can). There usually isn't enough clearance to hang a drop down off it, and I try to be extra careful with a torch if working right on top there. You may be able to find (or get a custom) dropdown that will fit - but they're not common.

^ Heh, im wondering the same exact thing.

Yeah.... like i just said. Really can't go wrong with that one in my opinion. Bonus with the sidecar.... it makes it really easy to see your hit while hitting, so really takes down the learning curve or getting the hang of your vape with glass. With other vapes that sit right on top, it's nice to have the vape off to the side instead of right in your face. Not as much of a concern with EQ, DBV or other hosed vape, but I think a sidecar is a little more future-proof depending on what vapes you may get later.
 

Andrew26

Happy Dabber
@flotntoke Okay sweet man I really appreciate it! You definitely cleared some things up for me.
Regarding the dabs, I have a 19 mm male quartz banger with carbcap so that shouldn't be a problem right?
And that glass artist piece you talking about looks pretty damn nice to :brow:.
Where can I find that piece on dhgate brother? And is it possible to get an artist piece of the Mobius Matrix sidecar? That would be awesome lol
Thanks man cheers!
 
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Silat

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http://aqualabtechnologies.com/ might be better for you.

FC, kathy57, sunshine, clearglass, liberty and more!
5mm thick minium
Custom 7 or 9MM thickness.

I have both because I break glass more than most!

@Andrew26 FC186 works with a "Q"
D020-D I don't have? (FC 187 is what I have instead)
The FC MOUTHPIECE work with a NANO or Q even a EVO.

Modnote: Fixed link (ataxian can't type)

Great post.
 
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DrSteez

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@ataxian I dab more than most too! I know you have an Evo, if you can stop breaking your nails those are decent to dab out of BUT if you want something less fragile with the BEST flavor and efficiency for dabs you should consider an E-nail with a Titanium nail with SiC insert. The Liger I have makes dabbing so enjoyable! I can't stand the taste of anything besides Quartz, SiC, and Sapphire anymore. You should try one!

With these you have an indestructible Titanium banger (a Must have for your robot fingers!) with a SiC insert that is also extremely durable and has so much better flavor than Ti. You can get a quartz insert too and it also tastes great but a lot less indestructible although It is really hard to break anything CCA makes! it's all super thick and durable.

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Oh my, so I finally got the glass artist little bong like yours. Filled it up, and HOLY SHIT IT'S QUIET. Like a whisper.


Who just took a dab?

Shhhh


Amazing.

Only problem is the joint is high up, I have to get a male thing for the quartz halo... Or maybe a liger? :D
 

abcd5432

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@flotntoke Okay sweet man I really appreciate it! You definitely cleared some things up for me.
Regarding the dabs, I have a 19 mm male quartz banger with carbcap so that shouldn't be a problem right?
And that glass artist piece you talking about looks pretty damn nice to :brow:.
Where can I find that piece on dhgate brother? And is it possible to get an artist piece of the Mobius Matrix sidecar? That would be awesome lol
Thanks man cheers!

So to go off what flotntoke said, it's about how you want to smoke. That is the most important thing.

So a sidecar is useful if you want to see smoke build up in the bubbler. This is something I personally like, even if I don't use it as a visual indicator while smoking.

Next, I prefer smaller pieces now. Why? FAR easier to clear which means a more pleasurable smoking experience.

I refuse to get a straight up and down piece because I watch TV while I smoke.

So the most important part for me is a downstem that is curved so I can look straight ahead while smoking.

Seeing my piece isn't a big deal if it means I can get a recycler style piece like the Taurus clones.

My current daily smoker is the "cake" clones. But since mine is thin glass (imo) and steven charges similar I'd get the mobius sidecar.

Although StevenLMZ has a 1 day sale going, and the Atom Matrix piece is included in this one day sale. Despite the fact that I like the sidecar design visually (I mean my cake piece is like that), that atom matrix on sale is what I'd look as well. I just like the design and the mouthpiece. easier for people to use who haven't used the piece before. The mouthpiece on the sidecar actually sucks to use but I've figured out an amazing way to hit it (IMO), that every person I've seen use my piece pulls better hits like that.
 

abcd5432

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About thickness:) I cannot find anything about the thickness of pieces on aqualabs or for that matter on dhgate. Maybe it is my old eyes. Could you direct me to that stat on some pieces?

I don't think many people list their thickness so it's hard to judge. I just know that my piece from Kathy was very thin at the mouth piece.

I'm just confused as to why they'd even use thin glass in the first place? By using thick glass it wouldn't cost them much extra, but they'd be assured repeat customers.

With Aqualabs, they sell pieces that are, according to the manufacturer site, not sold online, which makes me vary wary of their site.

I might try that fab piece next that was just posted above. That's tiny and looks quite thick.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
@flotntoke Okay sweet man I really appreciate it! You definitely cleared some things up for me.
Regarding the dabs, I have a 19 mm male quartz banger with carbcap so that shouldn't be a problem right?
And that glass artist piece you talking about looks pretty damn nice to :brow:.
Where can I find that piece on dhgate brother? And is it possible to get an artist piece of the Mobius Matrix sidecar? That would be awesome lol
Thanks man cheers!

glassartist is just another seller on DHGate. His store is here.

You should be fine with a banger if you have a 19mm M-M. It will just sit up on top. I like bangers with a little more stem to the bucket. Less mess in the can.
 

sokesleezy

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To answer your question nah, I haven't tried either piece before. In fact, whatever piece I get will be my first.


I was wondering about taking dabs with a piece where the joint was in the center. I figure a male to male adapter with a drop down on top would work and keep the piece cleaner.
 
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mrbonsai420

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I know of a few of you were asking about a new hydratube , well its made and finished , I cant tell you how it works just yet but here is the link and a function video - http://www.dhgate.com/product/2016-new-vapexhale-hydratube-9-8-inches-glass/385487849.html


Looks like the Yingmin version has 4 Honeycombs and the Sunshine store has 3. I was going to buy one but I wonder which hits better? The HUGE first slit in the inline on the sunshine store version looks like crap but I'm sure they will both have quality issues like that. I may go for the extra comb since I already have a VXH turbine for low diffusion and Hydrobomb for low drag.

http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-v...atube/385485538.html#s1-3-1b;searl|1173520965
 
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mixchu69

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Always wanted a banger hanger. I'm a fan of some chug. Do you think it can handle the weight of a dropdown and liger?
 

gaseous_clay

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Those look awful. If the function is comparable to the difference between a Mobius piece and the fakes, I'm glad I have one of the originals.

Good glass vs Chinese glass... you can see the difference.
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DHgate pieces often remind me of an infamous old mansion in Detroit, nicknamed "Slumpy."

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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
@ataxian @abcd5432 What mouthpiece are you guys talking about when it comes to the Mobius Matrix sidecar v2? I don't really like the flared mouthpiece so is there something better in terms of mouthpiece ? Thanks man
A large canned ash collector and attach a JHOOK will be a new trend.

Shipping a MOUTH-PIECE?

The new wave of CANNABIS consumers like smaller mouth-pieces.

Bong like mouth-piece's are gross for some.
Flared is lame as well.

My option only!
 

YungLeaner

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Those look awful. If the function is comparable to the difference between a Mobius piece and the fakes, I'm glad I have one of the originals.

Good glass vs Chinese glass... you can see the difference.
IMG_2811_1.jpg


DHgate pieces often remind me of an infamous old mansion in Detroit, nicknamed "Slumpy."

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Möbius isn't the best brand name to bring into this discussion, honestly, read the thread for their glass and you'll see a shocking amount of misaligned mouthpieces for high end scientific glass. Their matrix perc is more intricate, but for 300$ish dollars it's a bit ridiculous. A company named Sky glass has some great big-can bubblers for much better prices. I mean, unless you're addicted to maximal diffusion then the functional distinction between a GB187 and a Möbius is fairly minimal. You're mostly paying for the quality control. But you can literally buy 9 of the former bubbler, and do your own quality control, not to mention you could break 5 of them for fun and still have a lot more glass. Props for supporting American glass but talking shit about Chinese glass kind of misses the point and hurts the American industry we are supposedly supporting. Sorry if I sound frustrated. I am all for spending money that goes to Americans, but sometimes people around here talk like buying American glass is tantamount to positive political activism, while each Chinese bubbler purchased is a stab in the heart of the American economy. A much larger problem IMO is the vast, drug dealer-driven inflation of the upper end glass market. Hang around that crowd for awhile, at least in LA, and you'll get a sense of what I mean...money laundering, cross-country shipments of concentrates and gang connections are all part of the picture.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
@ataxian what is your absolute favorite china glass piece for the lotus?
I have a odd style of vaporizing!

I do what works for my situation.

The LOTUS and CONCENTRATES I like a bigger can.
For portables a BUBBLER.

The LOTUS I use a FC186 usually.
The mouth piece is too big for me so I modify it.
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This small one works.
I use the @DDave kit to modify my FC186
 

Andrew26

Happy Dabber
@flotntoke Had a pretty sweet suggestion for a nice glass can piece from glassartist on dhgate. I may decide to go with that one over the Mobius Matrix sidecar (the Chinese one), it's like 35$ more but it looks like it would be worth it. Hmmm decisions decisions :wave:
 
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