The Firefly 2 vaporizer
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darkrom
Great Scott!
I would certainly hope so. Its one of its strong points. The convection vapor on the firefly is vaporizing the active ingredients from the trichomes, the nice blue light color vapor is very pure.
Now say in my pax 2 which I also like, you are vaporizing not just the trichomes, but the actual inactive vegetative matter. This is a dirtier, harsher vapor with worse flavor.
More vapor has nothing to do with strength. A little dab produces less vapor than a hit from a conduction vape would, yet undoubtedly provides more active ingredients.
Oh and I have a MASSIVE tolerance and find my firefly 2 gets me better results than my mighty. It was partial conduction. Not to mention all of the active ingredients that you can ONLY get with instant on vapes. Yes even my beloved underdog, my fav vape of all time, is destroying some actives that I can only get from an instant heating vape like this, or a cold long soak tincture.
The firefly 2 is not just for people with low tolerance as mine is INSANE, and its my daily driver now. Also, it is the best portable concentrate vape I've seen on the market since the thermovape cera. That is just my opinion, but its certainly one of, if not THE cleanest. I'm not going to be using china pens anymore now.
murf2010
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Sell it on eBay! Or here
@darkrom I know many people who would argue to their death that more visible vapor means more potency, period. Your vaped concentrate example is a great illustration of how untrue that previous statement really is.
Yeah I don't know about that either. But I have read a lot of positive reviews from people so I'm hopeful
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darkrom
Great Scott!
Let me phrase it this way, does a hit of 30% thc bud produce more vapor and thicker vapor in the same vape as it would with 10% THC? Nope.
I think the firefly putting out thinner BLUEISH vapor is a sign that its simply not hitting the plant matter.
I can get even more clouds with smoke, but we all know that isn't stronger.
I think the firefly putting out thinner BLUEISH vapor is a sign that its simply not hitting the plant matter.
I can get even more clouds with smoke, but we all know that isn't stronger.
murf2010
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rushncrush
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Worst Vape I've EVER OWNED ( have 10 vapes ).. FC is in cahoots with FF and so are some of these reviewers. I'd avoid all of it like the plague.
I Hate this thing with a passion. I'd rather use a $100 vape or the mflb. Overrated overpriced overhyped
Low vapor producer, High maintenance, Poor battery, Buggy firmware, Bad air restriction, Plastic smell taste, Auto shuts off with red blinking light every half a bowel becoming unusable, Fairly big, Exposes weed with glass window so poor stealth , Extra cheap flimsy charger and battery case, made in china, terrible customer service,
Review from someone who paid for this **** vape and doesn't make revenue expressing his opinions
the rest of the detailed review is on reddit explaining why this **** vape isnt even worth $100.. I fully expect to be banned again and have this deleted.
happy vaping
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I Hate this thing with a passion. I'd rather use a $100 vape or the mflb. Overrated overpriced overhyped
Low vapor producer, High maintenance, Poor battery, Buggy firmware, Bad air restriction, Plastic smell taste, Auto shuts off with red blinking light every half a bowel becoming unusable, Fairly big, Exposes weed with glass window so poor stealth , Extra cheap flimsy charger and battery case, made in china, terrible customer service,
Review from someone who paid for this **** vape and doesn't make revenue expressing his opinions
the rest of the detailed review is on reddit explaining why this **** vape isnt even worth $100.. I fully expect to be banned again and have this deleted.
happy vaping
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You were half right. I'm leaving the post. You, on the other hand have a very different fate.
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I think his point was that you can have vapor that is more potent that contains more THC while being thinner than some vapor that contains less THC but is much thicker.
If you compared the vapor from a desktop vapexhale cloud evo that is using dry herb on a high heat setting to the clouds from a Firefly 2 using concentrate, the evo would produce a much thicker cloud that contains less THC than the FF2 cloud that would be thinner but contain more THC for example.
@rushncrush Godspeed
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murf2010
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Read plenty of amazing reviews
Yeah not much credibility! Placed my pre order! The fact that there is a learning curve means nothing to
Me. Everything in life requires a learning curve. Makes for better performance anyways!
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darkrom
Great Scott!
I think his point was that you can have vapor that is more potent that contains more THC while being thinner than some vapor that contains less THC but is much thicker.
If you compared the vapor from a desktop vapexhale cloud evo that is using dry herb on a high heat setting to the clouds from a Firefly 2 using concentrate, the evo would produce a much thicker cloud that contains less THC than the FF2 cloud that would be thinner but contain more THC for example.
@rushncrush Godspeed
Exactly. I think I get big clouds...for a FF2. If I want big clouds I'll get a conduction vape, or a fucking ECIG haha.
I get satisfying large clouds that make it foggy in a car with the windows up. I get great results. I'm just saying thats not the point of the FF2, to make clouds. Its to make clean vapor and I get big huge hits of clean vapor and large but not impressive clouds. Oh well. I'm vaping to vape not show off to box mod users or soemthing haha.
purplenurple24
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@murf2010, @rushncrush has been slamming Firefly since before he even had his FF2. Don't pay any attention to his whining and crying. He has some sort of personal vendetta against Firefly. Nearly everybody I've talked to has loved theirs so we must all be getting paid by Firefly?
I fucking wish.... 
I fucking wish.... 
MonsterWithoutBorders
Philosophim
Just got mine back from ff. They said nothing wrong and I have made it work. It does seem to work better when I put pressure on the front end. Compressing the seal. I can see a little compression and I immediately notice the air is hotter. The difference is a bit subtle. And my first test was with a micro dose 1/4 filled chamber. This time it got toasted and I adjusted. Later I will try the normal filling. Maybe then compression will not make difference.
Just got my 2nd wave Black FF2. IDK if there is any difference in firmwares, but my FF has firmware 1.6. No lid issues, consistent vapor. I get visible clouds even on medium. Great results with concentrate, flower, and hash! Only big negative so far is the unit gets supeeeer hot under heavy use. Luckily, it cools rather quickly so setting it down for 30 seconds helps a lot.
VapourHaze
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You know ff2 is made in China right? What quantifies "clean" vapour.
Higher potency weed undoubtedly produces bigger clouds for longer periods of time.
YungLeaner
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Thin vapor is definitely not a guaranteed sign of better production. You can have perfectly satisfactory extraction with thin vapor, it's just gonna take longer to get high. The Herbalizer is about as pure convection as it gets regardless of how you feel about silicon and the hits are huge.
murf2010
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I have an herbalizer and it's phenomenal. I just want a portable as well. Smoking lately a lot outside on walks with the wife and hikes and am tired of not having one. Been smoking A j or my pen
AJS
Calm Consistency
What's considered a high tolerance?
I just got the Milaana and the clouds are huge from it. Would be fun to do side by side comparisons of the exact same amount, as the Milaana would most certainly win with clouds, but I wonder if the Firefly would win with effects? Would be a fun time testing.
darkrom
Great Scott!
I don't personally care about clouds. I don't really feel like discussing it since I can get big ass clouds with my pax 2, but I still prefer the firefly. I'll defer all future cloud questions to those who feel like they are important. They are fun, but probably THE last thing I'd ever worry about at this point.
As for a high tolerance I consider my 3+ grams a day, every day, while maintaining a fulltime job to be high tolerance. I also use edibles and oil. I'm cutting WAY back on oil despite having a firefly that excels with it now. Oil break until closer to the New England Secret Cup next month.
I struggle to feel effects with my pax 2 compared to the firefly2. I need more bowls of harsher vapor, and more bud used. The firefly 1 was helping with my consumption levels before. I was able to use less herb each day and still be satisfied medically. Now I'm noticing the firefly 2 doing the same thing again. The battery on the firefly 1 was my only problem. If I could have paid to upgrade the battery on FF1 to FF2 levels I'd have done that, and used the FF1 forever. The FF2 is exactly what I wanted so far, with some bugs of course. Sounds like firmware 1.6 is already in the wild. I would take that to mean a new FW for me soon.
Who wants to take bets that the battery issue is resolved in the very first firmware update? My bet is it'll be resolved. I don't need a meter to tell me the battery is dead and time to swap it. Its a nice touch and they need to get it working now that they offer it, but its not a big deal to me personally...
Oh and what makes the firefly clean vapor? What does that have to do with China? They used quality glass and clean metals on the firefly 2. The vapor path is pure and clean in the firefly 1 + 2. That is what I mean by clean. I don't want shady melting materials etc etc.
As for a high tolerance I consider my 3+ grams a day, every day, while maintaining a fulltime job to be high tolerance. I also use edibles and oil. I'm cutting WAY back on oil despite having a firefly that excels with it now. Oil break until closer to the New England Secret Cup next month.
I struggle to feel effects with my pax 2 compared to the firefly2. I need more bowls of harsher vapor, and more bud used. The firefly 1 was helping with my consumption levels before. I was able to use less herb each day and still be satisfied medically. Now I'm noticing the firefly 2 doing the same thing again. The battery on the firefly 1 was my only problem. If I could have paid to upgrade the battery on FF1 to FF2 levels I'd have done that, and used the FF1 forever. The FF2 is exactly what I wanted so far, with some bugs of course. Sounds like firmware 1.6 is already in the wild. I would take that to mean a new FW for me soon.
Who wants to take bets that the battery issue is resolved in the very first firmware update? My bet is it'll be resolved. I don't need a meter to tell me the battery is dead and time to swap it. Its a nice touch and they need to get it working now that they offer it, but its not a big deal to me personally...
Oh and what makes the firefly clean vapor? What does that have to do with China? They used quality glass and clean metals on the firefly 2. The vapor path is pure and clean in the firefly 1 + 2. That is what I mean by clean. I don't want shady melting materials etc etc.
Silveradio
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My vape was preordered on Feb. 29th...waited for blue and it has firmware 1.6.
The location issue is because of Google/Android.
Also I believe I've been on version 1.6 since I got it a few weeks ago.
From Reddit:
So... The electronics aren't completely separate... When I tested covering my ff2 with tape there was a significant amount of air going through the electronics area and battery area and into the bowl.
Is that of any concern? I find this more of an important topic than clouds. I am pleased with this vapes performance at this current point in vapor tech. But honestly am disappointed by the build quality. The first thing I though when I opened mine was that it felt cheap. In terms of quality my AA feels like its built better. I do feel like the vape was hyped to much. (I also have an extreme hatred for advertising and marketing... So this could be me being an asshole)
I understand how people are upset with their purchases. But as a vape its not bad... I think its great...
The winning aspects of the ff2 is the ability to be more precise, flavor/coolness and the true convection. If people don't need or want that than you'll be just as happy with a cheaper vape IMHO.
Build quality: 7.5
Vapor quality: 9.5
Home usage: 9
Ease of use in terms of portability: 7.5
Battery: 8
Price: 7.5
Stealth: 7.5
Draw restriction: 7.5 (a bit better than AA?)
Pros: cool vapor, fast hits on greener loads, battery, on demand, herb and concentrates.
Cons: build quality and company hype. It can be a bit of a hassle using on the go, having to stir etc. But that's only a problem for stealth situations or when doing an activity like cycling.
This vape has been my daily driver and will probably continue to be until something better comes out. If the grasshopper ever gets its ish together I plan on buying one for on the go stealth situations. (Thinking about my past before vaping... I was pretty wreckless haha)
For future buyers... Understand what you want and need. This is a versatile vape and I believe you should be happy with its usage and medication, but it could definetly be overkill for people when price and usage is considered.
Dry herb tech is still not at the point that people hope for. I think what people are dreaming for is a cross between a grasshopper, and firefly. I feel like the tech is pretty much there now and its just a matter of a company putting it together right (and also putting their product before profits)
GH and ff2 should mate.
Anyway just my opinions... And I'm probably not going to reply in defense about any of my thoughts.
Would love to hear opinions about the electronics air path. Its not really a concern for me as long as I take note of the any battery damage.
Also are there any official FF photos or illustrations of the air path?
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Morimoto
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In the 1st week of owning my FireFly2, I extensively and meticulously taped/sealed off areas on the device testing airflow with the device off. I also used 100% VG e-juice fog to visually "test" where the airflow enters during normal operations, It all goes in the front.
I have come to the conclusion that the air flow does not pass through the electronics under NORMAL USE!!! If you block the air holes on the front, the FF2 is designed to allow air to come in from other areas so you do not cook your FF2... The FF2 requires air flowing under normal use, the air flow is not massive, it's difficult to notice unless you test extensively.
I have come to the conclusion that the air flow does not pass through the electronics under NORMAL USE!!! If you block the air holes on the front, the FF2 is designed to allow air to come in from other areas so you do not cook your FF2... The FF2 requires air flowing under normal use, the air flow is not massive, it's difficult to notice unless you test extensively.
Eatrocks
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I think the ff2 is overpriced. They gotta recoup all the marketing costs they spent...i had ff2 ads all over my Web searches back in late feb/March. All the reviews sound great, I would use it as a one or two hits unit. U could buy a new mighty for less..which seems more versatile. Ff2 in a group session would be great since the on demand heating won't 'cook' the bowl while someone's in the middle of a story holding the vape and fucking up the rotation (do I press the button??)
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