PLENTY Vaporizer

Trypsy Summers said:

I am sorry that the Plenty ain't giving it to you like you expected, I would suggest maybe not packing it as tight and use the liqui-pad!

However, if you want the authentic throat ripper effect, you gotta start on 7, that's the thing with this machine, to get that real throat ripping 'Chalice/Bong' effect you have to be on 7, there ain't no other way around it unless your herbs is the really mega powerful shit, by that I mean I'm talking north of 28% THC, to be sure!

But stick with it, for the Plenty is a an extremely capable piece of kit, when used correctly this thing is a like being hit by a runaway freight train, and that is the straight up WORD

Not saying, just saying, without saying

PS If the bowl isn't fully packed (packed as opposed to over stuffed -which can affect air flow)
Then ALWAYS USE the Liqui-pad, that is indeed a true sound!!

Peace

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Thanks. I'll try the liquid pad method. And the best draw method? Slow and light, or heavy and fast? One or two vape reviewers praised the Plenty for giving "consistent hits" no matter how you draw, but I'd assume the general vaporizer rule of slow and light would still be the best.

Bunnymustard said:

Thanks. I'll try the liquid pad method. And the best draw method? Slow and light, or heavy and fast? One or two vape reviewers praised the Plenty for giving "consistent hits" no matter how you draw, but I'd assume the general vaporizer rule of slow and light would still be the best.

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I find that like all Storz & Bickel Vapes (Volcano apart,) you have to take about three pulls before the payload comes, the first, second and sometimes the third draws/tokes are all about flavour then the vapor potency should kick in and you should be getting clouds comparable to the EVO.

As for how you draw, is a matter of personal technique, but I find that sometimes you have to kinda exhaust the coil, (draw it in your mouth, but don't inhale, just exhale that acrid little vapor) but there after, yeah, the clouds will come! I suppose the only factor/variable would be the bud you're using!

Not saying, just saying, without saying!

Peace

id say slow and light

..and long,of course

isnt that what you do with a whip/long vapor path?

I also want to ask, some vapes are more effective with a finer grind, others with a coarse grind. How about the Plenty? I imagine a fine grind is better, to promote air flow and expose more surface area. Plus the Plenty has very fine screens, unlike some vapes, so it seems like it could handle it.

So, I tried your suggestions. I half packed the chamber with the liquid pad, set it to 7 the entire session, took slow, light, very long draws (With one of those draws I coughed for the first time with the Plenty. Which is actually really impressive, because I haven't felt very much irritation with the Plenty, let alone a cough, until said draw. The Plenty's vapor is so smooth!) and after only a 15 minute session (which I don't consider very long) I was in the stratosphere!

It seems counter-intuitive, but less actually is more with the Plenty. Talk about herb conservation! I did a similar 15 minute session with the abv hours later and was just as high, hell, maybe even a bit higher!
Consider me a satisfied Plenty owner as of now!

... and now I'm eyeing that Crafty / Mighty again.

yay

Bunnymustard said:

So, I tried your suggestions. I half packed the chamber with the liquid pad, set it to 7 the entire session, took slow, light, very long draws (With one of those draws I coughed for the first time with the Plenty. Which is actually really impressive, because I haven't felt very much irritation with the Plenty, let alone a cough, until said draw. The Plenty's vapor is so smooth!) and after only a 15 minute session (which I don't consider very long) I was in the stratosphere!

It seems counter-intuitive, but less actually is more with the Plenty. Talk about herb conservation! I did a similar 15 minute session with the abv hours later and was just as high, hell, maybe even a bit higher!
Consider me a satisfied Plenty owner as of now!

... and now I'm eyeing that Crafty / Mighty again.

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You talking to me? If so, then welcome to the PLENTY CREW,
That's the thing with vapes, there's always a knack and technique to suit all and sundry.
Indeed the comment you make about "less is more" is a very true sound when it comes to vaping,
more often than not, over-packing the bowl only serves to stifle the flow, and another thing that should be noted, especially with the Plenty, is if you have half a bowl, or less, and don't use the liqui-pad, then when you hold it horizontally to inhale, the herb will drop down to the bottom half of the screen - thus resulting in reduced airflow thru the material!!

But anyway I'm glad that I was able to assist (along with the rest of the crew) in making you a satisfied Plenty owner, don't get me wrong, I don't use my Plenty as often as I should, but when I do -I got to big it up -every time, talk about riding shotgun with a shot gun, then you're talking PLENTY

As a PS; I ain't feeling my Crafty in the home situation, it's OK, but it seems to run out too quick for me and I'm talking both bowl and battery, what I don't like, is if like me you ain't got a smartphone, then you can't bounce the temperature further up (when the herb is getting spent in order to get more purchase on the bud,) other than to the pre-sets, I now have mine at 190C and 205C respectively! But as I said before, with the PLENTY and the other S & B vapes you can use the ABV in the volcano so its all good!!

Not saying, just saying, without saying,

Peace

only a suggestion but ..

if you dont want to get through an oz -do US ppl call them 'lids'?- or two (..or three) in the next few days/weeks (..guesstimate there)


you could look at trying micro-loads..0.1g


you keep it upright - to stop the tiny load moving around
and just use the same long slow draw

..plenty bowl doesnt even need to be half full to work fine
(.. tho more taste when fuller)
the secret is not moving the load, the very long slow draw
- and the Venturi effect
..i think
(edit: and something about plate sizes and portion sizes)

i dont use coil atm so im not sure of everything about technique

theres posts further back in thread giving details ..and pictures



or maybe (hope he doesnt mind) @ChooChooCharlie ..who made the posts ..will make suggestion
i like reading his posts - theyre usually quite good fun to read.. as well as useful
(hope this flattery will work)

@cloudsosmoke

I respect your suggestion re the 0.1g, I hear them over at the nano page chatting about those small amounts all the while and Ive not taken much notice til very recently, after the dreaded drought arrived.
I guess I like the long sessions, but I'm coming round to the less is more approach, its kinda like re-educating ones' self in term of intake..
I think you might just have inspired me to look at modifying my plenty -somehow!!

Not saying just saying without saying

Peace

lol i meant @Bunnymustard

- i was thinking now that hes got his plenty working properly he'll be on cloud 9 for a while
..and probly quickly vape a much larger quantity than he planned - hoho

i dunno - if you get a really good vape ..maybe just cos it tastes so good and goes down so smoothly ..when you first get it you just keep refilling - so i thought id suggest smaller loads to save him a few


but yeah its definately worth everyone experimenting and posting the results

cloudsosmoke said:

lol i meant @Bunnymustard

- i was thinking now that hes got his plenty working properly he'll be on cloud 9 for a while
..and probly quickly vape a much larger quantity than he planned - hoho

i dunno - if you get a really good vape ..maybe just cos it tastes so good and goes down so smoothly ..when you first get it you just keep refilling - so i thought id suggest smaller loads to save him a few


but yeah its definately worth everyone experimenting and posting the results

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Actually, quite the opposite. I was always vaping the Plenty (and Ascent beforehand) with a very full (but I hope not overpacked) chamber before I tried this. Now that I know it works, I've pledged to reduce the overall amount I use. Although not the frequency.

I half packed my Ascent tonight as an experiment (using the concentrate bowl method), which is itself a tiny fraction of the Plenty's half packed chamber, and the results were great. Granted, I wasn't stoned out of my mind as I would have been with a full pack, but I had a great time with an absolutely TINY amount compared to my regular sessions.

Trypsy Summers said:

You talking to me? If so, then welcome to the PLENTY CREW,
That's the thing with vapes, there's always a knack and technique to suit all and sundry.
Indeed the comment you make about "less is more" is a very true sound when it comes to vaping,
more often than not, over-packing the bowl only serves to stifle the flow, and another thing that should be noted, especially with the Plenty, is if you have half a bowl, or less, and don't use the liqui-pad, then when you hold it horizontally to inhale, the herb will drop down to the bottom half of the screen - thus resulting in reduced airflow thru the material!!

But anyway I'm glad that I was able to assist (along with the rest of the crew) in making you a satisfied Plenty owner, don't get me wrong, I don't use my Plenty as often as I should, but when I do -I got to big it up -every time, talk about riding shotgun with a shot gun, then you're talking PLENTY

As a PS; I ain't feeling my Crafty in the home situation, it's OK, but it seems to run out too quick for me and I'm talking both bowl and battery, what I don't like, is if like me you ain't got a smartphone, then you can't bounce the temperature further up (when the herb is getting spent in order to get more purchase on the bud,) other than to the pre-sets, I now have mine at 190C and 205C respectively! But as I said before, with the PLENTY and the other S & B vapes you can use the ABV in the volcano so its all good!!

Not saying, just saying, without saying,

Peace

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Thank you, and company, for the advice!

Those issues you have with the Crafty wouldn't bother me. Part of my plan is to buy an external USB battery pack for on the go (YAY USB CHARGING!), and to treat the Crafty as a plug-in vape when I'm home. I have a smartphone, but the Crafty's default temps are exactly what I use my Ascent at anyway, so I would never need the app.
Not the same temperature-wise with the Plenty, of course. We've clearly established that it's heat setting 7 or bust!

One of the reasons I like the Crafty over my Ascent (and even the Mighty for that matter) is really kinda stupid. It's that the Crafty can stand up on its own while loading. You most certainly can't do that with either the Ascent or Mighty, and it's something about the Ascent that annoys me. Gotta hold on to it with one hand and load with the other. Not the best idea, performing a highly coordinated, ambidextrous act while up in the clouds. Not that I'm contemplating the Crafty for that reason. It's all about the vape quality, of course.

@Bunnymustard @Trypsy Summers

ah right
youre both already trying smaller loads

i guess i was thinking of plentys undeserved weedhog rep and thought ppl were filling it to the brim because they thought they had to

lol i should read more carefully

Bunnymustard said:

Thank you, and company, for the advice!

Those issues you have with the Crafty wouldn't bother me. Part of my plan is to buy an external USB battery pack for on the go (YAY USB CHARGING!), and to treat the Crafty as a plug-in vape when I'm home. I have a smartphone, but the Crafty's default temps are exactly what I use my Ascent at anyway, so I would never need the app.
Not the same temperature-wise with the Plenty, of course. We've clearly established that it's heat setting 7 or bust!

One of the reasons I like the Crafty over my Ascent (and even the Mighty for that matter) is really kinda stupid. It's that the Crafty can stand up on its own while loading. You most certainly can't do that with either the Ascent or Mighty, and it's something about the Ascent that annoys me. Gotta hold on to it with one hand and load with the other. Not the best idea, performing a highly coordinated, ambidextrous act while up in the clouds. Not that I'm contemplating the Crafty for that reason. It's all about the vape quality, of course.

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Re the advice you're more than welcome 'each one - teach one' as they say, cos we gotta share the Love
I respect (and totally agree) with your assertion of the Crafty over the Ascent, I do like the fact that the Crafty stands up, and I too feel that the Mighty ought to be able to stand up as well WTF!!
I am not sure though about the quality of vapor with the Ascent when compared to the Crafty though, (not owning an Ascent myself)
I think the Crafty if great at what it does, but the bowl could be a little bigger! Maybe?? As previously stated, the Crafty seems to last for 5/6 draws then all the flavour has gone, don't get me wrong the vapor is quality, but I find it annoying when I'm paralyzed on the sofa and then have to do complex tasks like reloading the bowl! BTW I really like the Mighty, I think the vape quality is superb, but my other half has claimed that from day one -so I'm stuck with the Crafty -which is great on the go!

As for temps, I prefer the higher temps (I can function on the low temps) but I prefer the *John Snow
temp (210C) and upwards, but that's me, I like that Milky shit from the Volcano and also the cloudy throat ripper from the Plenty, but to be honest all S &B vapes have their own uniqueness which just hits the spot!

Ps I'm looking at the Hazemanv3 -what do reckon (anybody) is it in the same league as the Crafty in terms of vape quality? I'm just asking as it appears to have a good battery life compared to the Crafty! Cos there ain't nothing worse than when that Crafty's 'blue light' is blinking rapidly and then dying on ya when you want to vape -is there?

* For those outside the UK, Jon Snow is a C4 News presenter who took part in some Cannabis test on Channel 4 News and the fool got completely fucked up on the Volcano set at 210C, the stupid fuck had a proper episode (worse than a whitey) and after being comforted (whilst sobbing) he has become an avowed hater of Skunk! So round here we just love that temperature,(You know nothing, John Snow!!)

Not saying (that much) Just saying (something) Without saying (fuck all)

Peace

cloudsosmoke said:

@Bunnymustard @Trypsy Summers
i guess i was thinking of plentys undeserved weedhog rep and thought ppl were filling it to the brim because they thought they had to

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That's the exact mistake I made, hence why I posted here. Now I am on cloud 9, having figured out that less is more!

Trypsy Summers said:

I respect (and totally agree) with your assertion of the Crafty over the Ascent, I do like the fact that the Crafty stands up, and I too feel that the Mighty ought to be able to stand up as well WTF!!
I am not sure though about the quality of vapor with the Ascent when compared to the Crafty though, (not owning an Ascent myself)
I think the Crafty if great at what it does, but the bowl could be a little bigger! Maybe?? As previously stated, the Crafty seems to last for 5/6 draws then all the flavour has gone, don't get me wrong the vapor is quality, but I find it annoying when I'm paralyzed on the sofa and then have to do complex tasks like reloading the bowl! BTW I really like the Mighty, I think the vape quality is superb, but my other half has claimed that from day one -so I'm stuck with the Crafty -which is great on the go!

As for temps, I prefer the higher temps (I can function on the low temps) but I prefer the *John Snow
temp (210C) and upwards, but that's me, I like that Milky shit from the Volcano and also the cloudy throat ripper from the Plenty, but to be honest all S &B vapes have their own uniqueness which just hits the spot!

* For those outside the UK, Jon Snow is a C4 News presenter who took part in some Cannabis test on Channel 4 News and the fool got completely fucked up on the Volcano set at 210C, the stupid fuck had a proper episode (worse than a whitey) and after being comforted (whilst sobbing) he has become an avowed hater of Skunk! So round here we just love that temperature,(You know nothing, John Snow!!)

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Well, considering that I love the vapor quality of the Plenty over the Ascent, and people often say that all S&B vapes have pretty similar vapor quality, I think it's safe to say the Plenty will trump the Ascent's vapor. Yay!

Lol, there was a journalist in the US who did something similar. She was covering the legal recreational marijuana scene in Colorado. She apparently did her homework, but basically ignored all of it when trying edibles, and ate AN ENTIRE CHOCOLATE BAR. That gave her an 8 hour weed coma, with her convulsing under a table in the fetal position unable to do anything. Naturally, that story made waves, and did a great service to the public perception of marijuana.

Finally they did it: http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_eu/en/plenty-filling-chamber-reduced.html
Available for all !!





Liquid pad for capsules here: http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_eu/en/shop/accessories/liquid-pad-set-for-dosing-capsules.html
http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/shop/accessories/liquid-pad-set-for-dosing-capsules.html

Receptor said:

The Plenty....shock absorber stand prop...works fantastic after fiddling & tweaking. Easy to pass around and above all Safety First.

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Does anyone know what this Plenty stand is made of (and how to make it)?

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EDIT: Whoops - tried to copy the picture but was not able to do it. The original is posted on page 13 of this thread. Very clever and I would like to make one...

@Razshiro

well spotted!


got the cheapest option - cost euro 11.90

Delivery includes:
1 pc. Filling Chamber Reducer Insert (approx. Ø 15 mm/0.6 inch),
3 pc. Fine Screen
1 pc. Dosing Capsules



some first thoughts from week or two using dosing capsules in crafty

..i think it noticeably changes conduction/convection ratio
( it is now enclosed in a relatively large amount of extra metal )

seems you can get faster clouds so good for speed/stealth
i like it especially with tiny amounts - if you put load in bottom of bowl first as normal and just put capsule base on top as cover - its then trapped and vapes quick (i use capsule base - lid might slide down inside )

i guess taste not quite so good

holes are quite big so any grind seems to leak a tiny bit


but overall
i feel i have convection with conduction - standard
and
conduction with convection - capsule

so im happy with wider choice

Ordered reducer and capsules this morning.

Looks good, lots better than my goofy washer/basket thing.


For that wire stand on p.13:
Hi @loug - I think it's armature wire. On amazon, probably 3/16 in diameter.

Also onboard with the reducer!

Those capsules look neat! I get back to Oakland tomorrow night, maybe I should roll by S&B on Monday and see if they've got them in stock yet.

Ok I glanced at the Plenty Chamber reducer only for a moment and I'm not sure I understand. It's 24 bucks for the chamber reducer and another 12 bucks for 8 dosing capsules? From the looks of it on their official website it looks like the dosing capsules are optional? Looks to me like we either just pour our dry herb into the new tiny chamber or use only 1 single dose capsule? Am I right?

I find it very confusing how this is all explained on their website. It appears as if the dosing capsules can be used in the Mighty and Crafty as well as the Volcanoe.. meaning all of them? So there are chamber reducers available for every S&B vape now? Like I said I only glanced at the site for 1 minute but I'll come back to it later.

If anyone can clarify that would be great! In the meantime, I'm anxiously awaiting to hear about anyone's face time with them hopefully soon!

loug said:

Does anyone know what this Plenty stand is made of (and how to make it)?

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Thanks...

EDIT: Whoops - tried to copy the picture but was not able to do it. The original is posted on page 13 of this thread. Very clever and I would like to make one...

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The original poster has not been active for more than 2 years. Guess I'll try to figure it out on my own...

Yeah guys, if any of you get ahold of this reduced chamber, please let us know what you think of it. I'm really curious, especially having just discovered for myself that with the Plenty, less is more!