PLENTY Vaporizer

smatchimo55 said:

this was only a few posts up from you lol.

"Oh yeah...if you ever so slightly shave the hole under the screen of the upper chamber so that a 14mm M to a 18mm F jointed adapter slides in,..and then sleeve that 14mm joint w/ the silicone from the steel whip..you have a perfectly sealed glass on glass connection..you are then open to use ssv,,or lsv wands or any 18mm male glass wand.
Or use a 14m M to a 18mm M for other jointed applications."

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Thanks for replying - I did see that post but did not understand what the poster meant by "shave the hole under the screen".

I want to try plugging a DBV whip into the upper chamber where the cooling coil fits. The opening appears to be about 14mm (a bit more than 1/2") so I'm thinking that a 9/16" vinyl or silicone whip might fit but was hoping to hear from someone who has tried it before I invest in tubing that will be useless if it's the wrong size.

Hope you like your Solo - that was my first vape but I didn't love it - had a bad experience with Arizer customer service and found a desktop (DBV) that met my needs better than a portable. Now I also have the Plenty but it's hard to pass around when I have guests (hence my desire to graft the DBV whip onto the Plenty).

im now using small tube bubbler directly attached to plenty rather than coil

.. bubbler flowthrough fills from above and can be restocked with fresh icewater really quickly (..5-10sec if im near sink with jug) - nice with high temp at the end of bowl


@loug
from p 47
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/plenty-vaporizer.4657/page-47#post-922582

Good evening FC,

I am currently on day 10 of a 30 day tolerance break, which will end on our holy day of the 20th of April. I was thinking that I would like to use my tax refund to purchase another vaporizer to celebrate this glorious day. I've been doing some research, and I am leaning towards the Plenty. I want to get a German-engineered Mercedes Benz vape, but I don't necessarily want to shell out the money for a volcano (and my experiences with the Extreme-Q have taught me that I'd rather use a whip than deal with inflating a giant crinkling bag most of the time).

I have one question/concern about this device, for those who have owned or used the Plenty. If I understand correctly, even when set at 7, that's only going to be a max temperature of about 200 - 205 degrees Celsius. How thoroughly does the Plenty brown your plant matter? I know that a Nano set at 7+, an Extreme set to 230+ Celsius, or a deep deep draw on the sherlock vapor genie can get your plant matter dark dark brown, should I choose to do so. Can the Plenty come close to that, or does it operate under the idea that you extract 90% of the goodness as you cook the plant matter to the golden color, and that any more is unnecessary? Or, is the Plenty's heating element + herb chamber design so efficient that it can get your matter dark brown easily?

@Fahrenheit450 : See that you are an experienced vaper. Compared to you, I'm a newbie.
Noticed you asked very similar question on page 25 of this thread. Lots of good responses on that page.

From my own load/screen temperature testing, this is not a vape for high temp chasers.
In my opinion, combustion avoidance is by design in S&B vapes.
Does not matter how I draw, or what temp setting I select -- no fucking combustion.

As to whether there is a direct correlation linking actives extraction levels to specific shades along the ABV color spectrum ... Intuition may be incorrect here ... Lab testing required.

@ChooChooCharlie
Lol, I *completely* forgot that I posted that in 2014!! Guess that goes to show how much vaping I've done over the past year and a half!

I did end up buying the Nano after I posted that...and while I absolutely adore my log as a "pinch per session" super-efficient daily driver, it did leave something to be desired when using with friends, or when I had a crappy day at work and wanted to get completely vaked (which it can do, but having to repack the tiny stem repeatedly was a bit of a pain). I think that the Plenty's big volcano chamber, low draw resistance, and tough German rocket scientist materials will make it a fine addition to my collection for using with clumsy friends, or when I want to rapidly blast through a bowl and get vegetative ASAP. And if it doesn't blacken the plant matter, than that just means more potent ABV edibles later ;-)

Thanks for the reply, I'll watch a few more reviews before I (most likely) pull the trigger on a Plenty in another 2 weeks!

hey Fahrenheit450,
the plenty would never make your abv dark brown/blackish, not even at 7. abv usually is brown/golden brown, never really dark...
at 7, the analog termometer will tell you're at 220 °C but i think it's not accurate...
it's incredible how fresh is the vapor even at max temps, you can really rip with this one.
i have tried a bunch of vapes, but i personally think nothing has ever gotten me as wasted (with flowers) as the plenty (not even combustion).
yesterday i tried the plenty with some nice oil i have, just placed a bit of it on the liquid pad. it did got me high but i could get just a couple of small clouds... i still have to find a vaporizer as satisfying as dabbing with oils...
cheers

@ChooChooCharlie nice posts in the prev. pages! you don't always use the liquid pad?

BTW i'm one of those who like the plenty with a big load... but this way it really eats a lot of herbs!

Fahrenheit450 said:

Good evening FC,

I am currently on day 10 of a 30 day tolerance break, which will end on our holy day of the 20th of April. I was thinking that I would like to use my tax refund to purchase another vaporizer to celebrate this glorious day. I've been doing some research, and I am leaning towards the Plenty. I want to get a German-engineered Mercedes Benz vape, but I don't necessarily want to shell out the money for a volcano (and my experiences with the Extreme-Q have taught me that I'd rather use a whip than deal with inflating a giant crinkling bag most of the time).

I have one question/concern about this device, for those who have owned or used the Plenty. If I understand correctly, even when set at 7, that's only going to be a max temperature of about 200 - 205 degrees Celsius. How thoroughly does the Plenty brown your plant matter? I know that a Nano set at 7+, an Extreme set to 230+ Celsius, or a deep deep draw on the sherlock vapor genie can get your plant matter dark dark brown, should I choose to do so. Can the Plenty come close to that, or does it operate under the idea that you extract 90% of the goodness as you cook the plant matter to the golden color, and that any more is unnecessary? Or, is the Plenty's heating element + herb chamber design so efficient that it can get your matter dark brown easily?

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I have owned the plenty it's very powerful and as far as extracting i think it did a fine job but what i didn't like is you have to put to much herb for my needs and to get the most out of it is to finish the whole bowl in one session even the smallest amount was to much for me
I have a Cloud EVO now it is very eficient you can turn the herb dark brown very easy i love it you will save in herb with an EVO over the plenty and the taste is so much better with the EVO

Weird thing about my Plenty - when I set the temp above 4 the unit maxes out the temperature gauge before clicking off. I've been trying to stay in the green area (the most efficient for vaping) but have to turn the temp down to 4 or so before the Plenty will stop heating at the top of the green area.

I emailed S&B about this, waited for many days, and finally received a reply that did not answer my question (should this thing heat up to max before turning off?).

Anyone else have this? Is my unit functioning properly?

TIA for replies.

Hi @loug ,

I've only seen the temp gauge needle max out when my Plenty is resting on its side.
My theory: the temp gauge sensor is affected by orientation; heat trapped near sensor.

To me, one of the attractive qualities of the Plenty is its old school analog electro-mechanical design.
I think the heater is controlled by a bimetallic switch, set by the orange level wheel.
That's the clicking sound you hear.

Don't think the heater is necessarily connected/controlled by temp gauge needle.
I suspect the temp gauge needle is merely informational (or mis-informational).

But I may be wrong.

Try letting Plenty warm up when holding it vertical.
Don't think you will see the needle max out in this orientation.
Let us know.

ChooChooCharlie said:

Hi @loug ,

I've only seen the temp gauge needle max out when my Plenty is resting on its side.
My theory: the temp gauge sensor is affected by orientation; heat trapped near sensor.

To me, one of the attractive qualities of the Plenty is its old school analog electro-mechanical design.
I think the heater is controlled by a bimetallic switch, set by the orange level wheel.
That's the clicking sound you hear.

Don't think the heater is necessarily connected/controlled by temp gauge needle.
I suspect the temp gauge needle is merely informational (or mis-informational).

But I may be wrong.

Try letting Plenty warm up when holding it vertical.
Don't think you will see the needle max out in this orientation.
Let us know.

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I always use the brush as a stand (inserted in the screw hole) so that's pretty close to vertical. The Plenty does work fine - it's just annoying that the temp gauge on a fairly expensive gadget doesn't read accurately and that I can't get an appropriate response from S&B.

re vaping small amounts

lots of posts on mighty thread about this already

i think there were rumors about s&b enabling change of plenty filling chamber size
well ..they now have dosing capsules for mighty/crafty ..maybe plenty is next

from vapormed.com (not accessible from US,i think)


DOSING CAPSULE SET, 40 PCS.

€12.90
Incl. 19% tax, Excl. shipping
Product code: REF 09 33
Availability: In stock


Quick Overview:
YOU CAN FILL GROUND HEMP FLOWERS INTO THE DOSING CAPSULES IN ADVANCE.

and








MAGAZINE WITH 8 DOSING CAPSULES

€5.90
Incl. 19% tax, Excl. shipping
Product code: REF 09 32
Availability: In stock


Quick Overview:
YOU CAN FILL GROUND HEMP FLOWERS INTO THE DOSING CAPSULES IN ADVANCE AND STORE THEM IN THE MAGAZINE.


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from link in crafty thread from
@theone

..from mighty thread originally

Does the plenty dry out your mouth? Do you wish it had a water filter?

Do you find there are problems clearing out the last of the goodness that requires a lot of low strength hits?

It's been a few days and I need to make this decision before the 20th.
Anyone want to chime in ?

KennyPowers said:

It's been a few days and I need to make this decision before the 20th.
Anyone want to chime in ?

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If you were a smoker you wanna go with the Evo but the plenty is very plentyfull I had both of them I found the plenty you need plenty of herb the Evo is very efficient.

I liked better the Plenty cause there's no glass, it isn't noisy at all cause there's no water bubbling (no need of it cause of that metal wire, which imho is a masterpiece), you can use it while on bed, I could go on. But yes, doing a pinch is "easier" on the Evo if you are inclined to long sessions sitting on a chair (sorry ).
Oh and if you are a smoker try to light up a fatty one after a Plenty session if you can.

cloudsosmoke said:

re vaping small amounts

lots of posts on mighty thread about this already

i think there were rumors about s&b enabling change of plenty filling chamber size
well ..they now have dosing capsules for mighty/crafty ..maybe plenty is next

from vapormed.com (not accessible from US,i think)

DOSING CAPSULE SET, 40 PCS.

€12.90
Incl. 19% tax, Excl. shipping
Product code: REF 09 33
Availability: In stock


Quick Overview:
YOU CAN FILL GROUND HEMP FLOWERS INTO THE DOSING CAPSULES IN ADVANCE.

and








MAGAZINE WITH 8 DOSING CAPSULES

€5.90
Incl. 19% tax, Excl. shipping
Product code: REF 09 32
Availability: In stock


Quick Overview:
YOU CAN FILL GROUND HEMP FLOWERS INTO THE DOSING CAPSULES IN ADVANCE AND STORE THEM IN THE MAGAZINE.


ADD TO CART



from link in crafty thread from
@theone

..from mighty thread originally

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And per S and B, there is a "reducer" for plenty coming soon for the plenty that fits the same capsules.

KennyPowers said:

Does the plenty dry out your mouth? Do you wish it had a water filter?

Do you find there are problems clearing out the last of the goodness that requires a lot of low strength hits?

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No to both. To be honest I rarely go below 7 of an evening. I stay around 6 if using during the day. I have used it with water but it's not necessary or worth the hassle IMVHO.

Mod note: posts merged and response moved from quote.

I recently cleaned my Plenty cooling coil after months of use. I used about 40 mL of 99 percent IPA. I filled up the coil with IPA using a funnel, plug both ends, and let it sit for a day, then dump it in the beaker. I repeated this five or six times. I let it evaporate for two weeks in the air then put the beaker in boiling water for 30 minutes. The result was about 3 grams of material. One thing I would do differently next time is to filter the solution since there is a fair amount of particulates accumulated in the coil.

Nice post above. I do similar with mighty. I don't boil the beaker in water though.I just let the iso evaporate in the air. And i put the solution in a glass jar and put the jar on top of the toaster oven for an hour or so.
Do you feel the boil is absolutely necessary. Thanks

By the way I am making canna oil from my abv and reclaiming mighty for oil. Man I love this new level of efficiency with mi herbs

S&B say pump hot air @100c/212f in volcano for alcohol based tincture until smell stops

from vapormed.com

As the alcoholic fraction is not supposed to be inhaled a separation is necessary and can be executed easily. The filling chamber with the liquid pad is placed on the hot air generator and air with a temperature up to 100°C is pumped through the liquid pad. In this temperature range, the cannabinoids do not vaporize, but the alcohol evaporates quickly. After the alcohol has vaporized, which, because of the alcohol's distinctive odor, can easily be determined by an olfactory test, the 'AIR' is turned off and the device is heated to 210°C. The cannabinoids will now be vaporized from the liquid pad and subsequently be inhaled. Dronabinol has neither odor nor taste and it can be easily vaporized at higher temperatures.


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nice pics

Receptor said:

The Plenty stand prop...works real well! Hope the link works

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Okay - please tell me how to make that!

All I know is that the Plenty is in the BIG LEAGUE, I have mine which I use from time to time, and each time I use it, I'm left with nothing but contentment, yeah it can be a guzzler, but once you know a few tricks, and acquire the knack and technique! Then what can I say, other than this vape is the real deal

Yeah don't get me wrong (just get me right,) it can a bit finicky, but as with all S & B vapes it has the shut off feature, which can be a bit of nuisance, especially given that its analogue!! But that apart, what I do like about the Plenty, and (to a lesser extent,) its smaller siblings, is that you can re-vape leftover shit (ABV,) in a Volcano (Digital) set at 230C and get a nice vibe!
So in that way the Plenty is efficient, as opposed to just basing efficiency solely on the initial amount of herb that is used to fill it! To be honest, I prefer a full bowl that lasts for a while, but in light of several comments, I'm gonna try 0.1g and those other real fucking low numbers, and see how that goes!

Not saying, just saying, without saying!!

Peace

Alan Partridge said:

I tried out what you did in the third pic (well kinda- 14mm male to 18mm female adapter, then an 18mm male to male adapter). Worked perfectly! Had a hydrabomb on it and also inverted it on a FC187. ENDLESS clouds.

Great testing finding out it's convection capabilities- I always said the Plenty is underrated for it's taste.

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would you say the plenty works as well as the evo for cloud chasers?

TLDR: DaVinci Ascent owner disappointed by Plenty “upgrade”. The Plenty just does not get me as high as the Ascent no matter what I try. Usage tips?

I’ve owned a DaVinci Ascent for many months and I love it. I bought a Plenty as a desktop upgrade. After more hours of research than I care to admit, it seemed conclusive that the Plenty is the second best vaporizer ever, next to the Volcano. (For that matter, it seems as if all Storz & Bickel vapes have pretty much the same vapor quality / potency, it just comes down to your preferred type of device and vapor delivery method.) BUT, despite the Plenty’s high critical acclaim, despite (compared to the Ascent) its massive chamber, supposedly superior convection heating method, and its cleaner, smoother, more pure vapor, it simply does not get me as high as the Ascent! Try as I might, I’m always left somewhat disappointed with the results of the Plenty.

Now I’m sitting here with a $400+ hole in my wallet, feeling that I might have made a mistake. How could a desktop vaporizer at double the price, from a company synonymous with the best vaporizers in existence, not “hit me as hard” a someone else’s portable at half the price?!

I always pack the Plenty’s chamber full, just tightly enough to keep everything in place, ensuring proper airflow with even vaporization. I’ve tried sessions with temperatures ranging from 5 all the way to 7 on the dial. Yet the results are always the same: I’m left feeling a little disappointed, like I could have gotten a more satisfying high if I had used my Ascent. When I switch back to my Ascent, I DO get more satisfying results, even with its smaller chamber capacity and mostly conduction heating, which is supposedly inferior to convection.

I want to like this vape, I really do. Am I doing something wrong? Should I take very slow, light draws, or slightly heavier, faster draws? Should I half pack the chamber and use the liquid pad? Do I need to have longer sessions, since the Plenty is probably more herb efficient compared to the Ascent?

P.S. Here’s the real kicker: I was planning to replace my Ascent with either S&B’s Crafty or Mighty, so I could be a Storz & Bickel guy through and through, portable and desktop. Then I actually used the Plenty, and, well, you just read all of the above, so you see the problem there: The potential to half the heft of my wallet and double my disappointment!

TboneToker said:

would you say the plenty works as well as the evo for cloud chasers?

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yes the plenty works very well and is easy to use

Bunnymustard said:

TLDR: DaVinci Ascent owner disappointed by Plenty “upgrade”. The Plenty just does not get me as high as the Ascent no matter what I try. Usage tips?


I always pack the Plenty’s chamber full, just tightly enough to keep everything in place, ensuring proper airflow with even vaporization. I’ve tried sessions with temperatures ranging from 5 all the way to 7 on the dial. Yet the results are always the same: I’m left feeling a little disappointed, like I could have gotten a more satisfying high if I had used my Ascent. When I switch back to my Ascent, I DO get more satisfying results, even with its smaller chamber capacity and mostly conduction heating, which is supposedly inferior to convection.

I want to like this vape, I really do. Am I doing something wrong? Should I take very slow, light draws, or slightly heavier, faster draws? Should I half pack the chamber and use the liquid pad? Do I need to have longer sessions, since the Plenty is probably more herb efficient compared to the Ascent?

P.S. Here’s the real kicker: I was planning to replace my Ascent with either S&B’s Crafty or Mighty, so I could be a Storz & Bickel guy through and through, portable and desktop. Then I actually used the Plenty, and, well, you just read all of the above, so you see the problem there: The potential to half the heft of my wallet and double my disappointment!

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I am sorry that the Plenty ain't giving it to you like you expected, I would suggest maybe not packing it as tight and use the liqui-pad!

However, if you want the authentic throat ripper effect, you gotta start on 7, that's the thing with this machine, to get that real throat ripping 'Chalice/Bong' effect you have to be on 7, there ain't no other way around it unless your herbs is the really mega powerful shit, by that I mean I'm talking north of 28% THC, to be sure!

But stick with it, for the Plenty is a an extremely capable piece of kit, when used correctly this thing is a like being hit by a runaway freight train, and that is the straight up WORD

Not saying, just saying, without saying

PS If the bowl isn't fully packed (packed as opposed to over stuffed -which can affect air flow)
Then ALWAYS USE the Liqui-pad, that is indeed a true sound!!

Peace