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Is there an alternative to PV or EF?

1DMF

Old School Cheesy Quaver
Hi,

I have been an FC member long enough and purchased my fair share of paraphernalia to consider this following question genuine, without meaning to be derogatory to any manufacturer.

(I know max will whoop my behind, should I say something inappropriate ;) )

Seriously though, having broken many Easy Flow GonG's , used Ed's TnT stems as a WonG and have my eagerly awaited blackwood Ed'sTnT WonG on route :)

I purchased a PV GonG because PVHEGonG was out of stock with no ETA, plus the PV site was only accepting BitCoin, and I love my PVHES Vortex 'Shorty' so much - it is a seriously good quality piece of solo glass stem- Thanks @ataxian :)

However, the fit on the PVGonG I have is as us brits like to say "It's as lose as a cock in a bucket."

The EF GonG's are an awesome fit, they are snug against the oven and produce copious amount of clouds, but the thickness of the glass / quality is a little to be desired and it breaks far too easily.

Where as the quality of the PV glass on my Vortex is superb, but the GonG I just purchased, although thicker than the EF, the fit in terms of diameter snugness in the oven is appalling.

Plus as there are no channel vents down the side, sometimes the draw resistance is like sucking treacle through a straw and you have to wiggle the unit about to try to create some form of through draft.

So I genuinely ask for a good Arizer Solo's GonG WTA (preferably 18mm but I have 18->14 reducer) recommendation, that fits as snug as the Easy Flow, but is the quality of Planet Vape's Vortex Solo stems.

Does something of this ilk exist and if so when can I obtain one.

Many thanks,
1DMF.
 
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ataxian

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Hi,

I have been an FC member long enough and purchased my fair share of paraphernalia to consider this following question genuine, without meaning to be derogatory to any manufacturer.

(I know max will whoop my behind, should I say something inappropriate ;) )

Seriously though, having broken many Easy Flow GonG's , used Ed's TnT stems as a WonG and have my eagerly awaited blackwood Ed'sTnT WonG on route :)

I purchased a PV GonG because PVHEGonG was out of stock with no ETA, plus the PV site was only accepting BitCoin, and I love my PVHES Vortex 'Shorty' so much - it is a seriously good quality piece of solo glass stem- Thanks @ataxian :)

However, the fit on the PVGonG I have is as us brits like to say "It's as lose as a cock in a bucket."

The EF GonG's are an awesome fit, they are snug against the oven and produce copious amount of clouds, but the thickness of the glass / quality is a little to be desired and it breaks far too easily.

Where as the quality of the PV glass on my Vortex is superb, but the GonG I just purchased, although thicker than the EF, the fit in terms of diameter snugness in the oven is appalling.

Plus as there are no channel vents down the side, sometimes the draw resistance is like sucking treacle through a straw and you have to wiggle the unit about to try to create some form of through draft.

So I genuinely ask for a good Arizer Solo's GonG WTA (preferably 18mm but I have 18->14 reducer) recommendation, that fits as snug as the Easy Flow, but is the quality of Planet Vape's Vortex Solo stems.

Does something of this ilk exist and if so when can I obtain one.

Many thanks,
1DMF.
With all the new material's available today?

Unbreakable GonG's that do not effect flavor?
That do not swell?
 

1DMF

Old School Cheesy Quaver
@ataxian A PVHE 'Vortex' ('Shorty') GonG WTA is what I'm trying to achieve really I guess, but that fits as good as an Easy Flow GonG.

Are you basically telling me that my fundamental grasp of glass thermal dynamics means what I ask for is not possible?
 
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ataxian

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@ataxian A PVHE 'Vortex' ('Shorty') GonG WTA is what I'm trying to achieve really I guess, but that fits as good as an Easy Flow GonG.

Are you basically telling me that my fundamental grasp of glass thermal dynamics means what I ask for is not possible?
I see your need for wood?
It is super durable.

However unbreakable stable tasteless wpa like the LOTUS.
Image a SOLO with a better material?

Glass is OK just I think there is something more conclusive?
 
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RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
What sucks is you might order the same PV GonG today and find it fits too tight for your liking, no two after market solo stems seem to be the exact same diameter. I have a couple PV stems that are "Cock in a bucket" loose and a couple that are so tight I feel they're gonna get broken just putting them in the solo when they're cold.

In my experience it's a crap shoot every time you order new glass where Ed's WonGs will always be exactly the same every time.
 

1DMF

Old School Cheesy Quaver
What sucks even more, is I just broke my new PVGonG , literally days after buying it, that's £25.00 down the drain.

I was wiggling the solo to get a draw and it broke right at the rim of the bong aperture, not where the EF's normally break (in the oven), this snapped clean @ the ground GonG end, I had a nightmare getting the glass out of the neck of the bong.

I wasn't that heavy handed, and if it had fitted properly and there was no draw resistance, I wouldn't have needed to wiggle it in the first place.

I can get an EF GonG for £10.00 on ebay, though they may be fake, but as I keep breaking them, it might be the cheapest option.

Wish UPS would hurry up and deliver my Ed's WonG, though I still like the conduction / clouds produced from a glass chamber.
 

1DMF

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Talk about going from high to low in 30 seconds!

I just found possibly exactly what I wished for : PVHEGonG 18MM Shorty Turbo
And then found PV won't let me buy it unless I travel to Canada and pick it up in person!

:bang:
 
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Jethro

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I'm really curious who makes these items for PV? PV doesn't make themselves, I am sure of that. Be nice to go to the source. I sure hope PV get's their issues resolved soon!
 
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f2j

Chaque jour est une chance
What sucks even more, is I just broke my new PVGonG , literally days after buying it, that's £25.00 down the drain.
How bad does it look ? I broke my one and only E-nano stem a few month ago and decided to save it by cutting the glass with scissors under water. Don't know if it could work in your case as the screen is fix on your stem, but 25£ is worth the try. Now my stem looks like shit but it works fine.
 
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@f2j unfortunately it snapped clean at the ground end, so there was no down stem to use, I tried but there was nothing left to fit into the bong neck.

Wish I'd kept it and taken a photo now to show every one, but it was stupid o'clock in the morning and I simply swore and chucked it.
 
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kellya86

Herb gardener...
A UK glass blower could really cash in on all this new demand for glass...

I'm sick of having to import everything...
 
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1DMF

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I'm sick of having to import everything...
And that's when you can even order the damn stuff!

I emailed that dutch vender vaposhop 3 days ago about their WTA GonG and no-one has come back to me.

I've given up and just bought 2 x EasyFlow WTA GonG's from ebay @ £10.00 each, not the GonG I want but the only ones available!
 
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kellya86

Herb gardener...
Yeah that's not good, but better than nothing I suppose, they might surprise you though...

I hate having to rely on @DDave for my eq wands and adapters, dont get me wrong, he's an amazing guy and is all too helpfull and nice, and his prices are great too...
But he could get hit by a bus tomorrow, I hope not, but then what would I do....

There is a definate gap in th UK market for vape glass, maybe I will approach some local glass blowers and set up a company to sell it across UK with free delivery next day....
 
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@kellya86 Don't get me wrong, I like the EF GonG in terms of performance, it is an awesome cloud maker when coupled with the solo and my bubbler, they just break too damn easy, I've smashed 5 already!

There is a definate gap in th UK market for vape glass, maybe I will approach some local glass blowers and set up a company to sell it across UK with free delivery next day....
Could be your calling to becoming a 420 GonG entrepreneur, the question that needs to be asked or worked out is how big the market actually is in the UK currently?
 
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ataxian

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@kellya86 Don't get me wrong, I like the EF GonG in terms of performance, it is an awesome cloud maker when coupled with the solo and my bubbler, they just break too damn easy, I've smashed 5 already!

Could be your calling to becoming a 420 GonG entrepreneur, the question that needs to be asked or worked out is how big the market actually is in the UK currently?
England invented everything?
 

1DMF

Old School Cheesy Quaver
@Ed's TnT my WonG has turned up - nothing to say but Quality!

Please invent a glass liner and you'll retire a billionaire!

Edit:-

The liner could even act as the filter so no need for an SS screen in the air pathway!

Just wood and glass! :rockon:
 
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