Arizer Solo

kellya86 said:

But the eq is still on a whole other level, @1DMF I hope you sort your transport out in time for the summer fc UK meet...

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If I have to I'll hire a vehicle

kellya86 said:

@CarolKing I don't miss those unhygienic soggy shared joint's either...

I always carry a vape wipe incase I have to share a Vape while out...

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Funny isn't it, the thought of sucking on a soggy, nicotine stained roach makes me want to puke now. I never go anywhere with or without my vape without a couple of Vipes in my pocket, just in case!

Even sharing my vape or bong requires a wipe after each person's had a go... when did us vaperists become so anal?

Wow!! Washington State Delegates to the Democratic Caucus sure like Bernie Sanders. They put up with up to 9 hours of shenanigans just so they could vote.
My whole family helped put Sanders delegates there. #WAcaucus on twitter.

Of course thinking stoners know he is the only candidate that would remove cannabis completely from the Controlled Substances Act.

OF said:

Yer welcome. Like I said, you're far from alone in 'coming back to the factory' stems. I was big on the bent one as well (drove me up the wall when they'd rotate on their own, led to the o-ring fix) but then came 'full circle' to the straight stems again a year or so later. And of course, with Air, nothing but straight stems?

I recall a discussion about this topic (why do some switch back?) and one of the usual suspects (CK I think?) put her finger right on it, after the emotional/financial hassles getting a PHHES (it used to be months and months wait only to have them sell out again in a few days) folks that finally got one were committed to enjoying it no matter. Wise, to the point of being profound I think. Sometimes guys have a huge investment in the idea that can dominate I think.

Took me a LONG time to give up my bent PVHES for sure.......I'm not exactly sure where it is right now....

As to tips, a couple things you might try are wrapping some Teflon 'Plumber's Tape' around the normal drip tips to get them snug or use a short piece of Silicone tube on the outside to make the connection. I did both, but like the PVHES went back to factory. Alternatively we could drop by Ataxian's place, while he and I hung out at the pool you could excuse yourself to use the rest room.........

OF

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The PVHES came with my Solo so it was definitely worth a try. I don't hate it, I'm just not crazy about it. I wonder if I would have like the bent PVHES you speak about better than the short one?

It's still nice to have in case I ever get a water piece?

Thanks for the ideas for the stem tips! I get the feeling that Ataxian would notice the tip missing before I can make a safe getaway! LOL!

CarolKing said:

@Detonator i would ask PV if you could just shoot them a pic. I would be irritated too. Those stems aren't cheap either + shipping. I usually order two stems at a time at least because the shipping is so expensive on glass.

I wish you good luck with that.

Using the Solo right now with some blueberry 60% sativa and 40% indica - this is a good daytime medicine.

Making homemade beef stew for dinner, it's simmering now. I like some cabbage too added with lots of other veggies, no corn hate that in a stew.

I needed a break. A nice vapor flavor from this strain.

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Well I'm beyond pissed off... I thought I got a bad stem,,, no look what PV wrote-

Hi Detonator,
Thanks for your inquiry. Arizer changed the Solo stems about a year ago to the smaller lazer cut size instead of the larger hand poked holes. We did question the change and Arizer said that they flow test all stems and that the new stems with smaller holes are within their flow parameters. Very sorry but all stems manufactured within the last year and going forward are all the new smaller sized holes as provided by Arizer.

Kind Regards,
PV

I want my money back,,, and I told them to tell whoever to make them correctly again... and that I'm part of FC. and I think we all want them made correctly.... the new PVHE have tiny holes and are way worse than a stock stem

Just looked at the stems on my air and they are indeed smaller. I never really noticed until now, Will probably bother me now.
Should be easy enough to dremel them out and then rinse well.

I have a few of the air stems with the plastic mouthpiece to use with my Solo and there are two different sized holes/bowls on mine. Both are smaller then the og solo stems.

lookhigh said:

I never really noticed until now, Will probably bother me now.
Should be easy enough to dremel them out and then rinse well.

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There's a limit to how much benefit from making the holes larger, once they are less restrictive than the rest of the system (mostly the holes in the bottom I suspect?) those external restrictions control things, bigger holes are no more an advantage than a bigger diameter stem would be.

I think that they could be fairly easily opened up with a small 'rat tail' (mouse tail?) diamond coated file out of a needle file set like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Needl...eedle files&qid=1461010008&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

I'd do it under slowly running water (in the kitchen sink) and be careful not to 'thread the wedge into the hole'. Slow and easy by hand for me, a slip with a Dremel might be fatal.

FWIW I think the original 'hand pierced' holes might have been larger because it's too hard to make such holes smaller (they tend to close up again).

OF

I think your right, enlarging the holes on the tipped ones would make little difference as it only moves the point of restriction.

the new PVHE with tiny holes is complete crap,,,, makes the entire Solo experience way worse than stock... it was like sucking through a tiny straw, Planet Vapes is out of there fucking mind, if they think these are just as good, or have the same flow parameters cause they don't...

If the newer stems turn out to be an inferior product folks won't buy them. In the past PV couldn't keep the stems on the shelves. I haven't bought any the past year because I stocked up last spring.

CarolKing said:

If the newer stems turn out to be an inferior product folks won't buy them. In the past PV couldn't keep the stems on the shelves. I haven't bought any the past year because I stocked up last spring.

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It now time to take the law in our own hands!
Unbreakable GonG's!

CarolKing said:

If the newer stems turn out to be an inferior product folks won't buy them.

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Excellent point. They are not dumb. For instance, they gave us the 'use while charging' we demanded over the 'true PA' system they'd originally designed. They could easily have specified any size (and shape for that matter...) since LASERs don't care really (unlike piercing softened glass), it must be intentional.

My guess is they tested the area well and, like most such things, settled on a compromise they hope fits most customers best. Those of us 'outside the normal range' will have to either modify, adapt or seek aftermarket solutions. In this case, PVHES seems worth considering as well. Custom is if not in hand, at least near by?

Ironic as it is, while some see such changes as improvements not all do. I prefer the old style (more draw restriced) 'true PA' versions, and stock (not PVHES) stems and don't really care which hole size (since I'm sipping my way to happiness). Not so for others.

ataxian said:

It now time to take the law in our own hands!
Unbreakable GonG's!

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That's not 'taking the law in our hands', Bro, that's 'claiming our destinies', right. Perhaps this is the time we've all be hoping and planning for. The start of the New Age, long awaited. All we need is a Leader to lead us to victory! Now is your time, Ataxian! Rise to the call. Hold your Solo high at sunset on the beach, the faithful will flock to you.......

Or not.

OF

FWIW I made a stem into a turbo stem with a Dremel and a new diamond bit for it. Managed to clean up really well actually, had a nice relatively even rim on the stem to seat a screen. I wore appropriate PPE (even a mask!), grinding glass is icky and safety first!

OF said:

Excellent point. They are not dumb. For instance, they gave us the 'use while charging' we demanded over the 'true PA' system they'd originally designed. They could easily have specified any size (and shape for that matter...) since LASERs don't care really (unlike piercing softened glass), it must be intentional.

My guess is they tested the area well and, like most such things, settled on a compromise they hope fits most customers best. Those of us 'outside the normal range' will have to either modify, adapt or seek aftermarket solutions. In this case, PVHES seems worth considering as well. Custom is if not in hand, at least near by?

Ironic as it is, while some see such changes as improvements not all do. I prefer the old style (more draw restriced) 'true PA' versions, and stock (not PVHES) stems and don't really care which hole size (since I'm sipping my way to happiness). Not so for others.



That's not 'taking the law in our hands', Bro, that's 'claiming our destinies', right. Perhaps this is the time we've all be hoping and planning for. The start of the New Age, long awaited. All we need is a Leader to lead us to victory! Now is your time, Ataxian! Rise to the call. Hold your Solo high at sunset on the beach, the faithful will flock to you.......

Or not.

OF

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You know I'm in need of a unbreakable GonG?
I know we have durable GonG's or WonG's now.
My problem is material?
I tried a vaporizer I thought I wanted however the SOLO still is way better.
The problem is only a few people find FLAVOR very important.

Tomorrow I will search?

MEDICAL is important to me!
Too many maybe not?

I'm not sure if anybody would be interested in the turbo PVHES mouthpieces they have the single bore hole with a screen. They are very easy to draw from.

Also the vortex stem has a a large hole in the glass with a screen. The vortex stems are also very easy to draw from. If you don't have a problem with the draw the standard stems should work fine for you.

No wonder they have the specialty stems available, the credit card problems are still going on.

So .... I finally went to a dispensary and got some strains to try. I just did my first vape session
when do you know when all the herb is spent ? The first draw was pretty good. I did 2 more draws after that and can smell the herb burning.

It won't give any more vapor and will taste like popcorn. Depending on the herb I could get 1-3 full sessions with a Solo stem pack. Usually I do 2 12 minute sessions per pack and get 4-5 draws per session, but I let mine heat soak for a long time and give it time between pulls.

EDIT: If you are not sure set aside the herb and then try vaping it the next day with a clear head at a higher temp. Personally I do not keep vaping until all the vapor is gone as it doesn't seem like anything is left, but I think most people still find it beneficial. A lot of people say it helps them sleep.

Have some fun with temp. Try a few pulls at 2, a few at 3, few at 4, on up to 6 or 7 lights. Do some sessions just at 2 lights, just at 3, etc. Try it through water, etc. Have fun. Nothing is ever wasted unless you throw away good herb.

You are smelling it burn after only 2 draws? What heat setting are you using? I usually get several more draws. I stop when it tasted bad but it never burns if you mean combusting? If I'm not using water I set it at 2.

little maggie said:

You are smelling it burn after only 2 draws? What heat setting are you using? I usually get several more draws. I stop when it tasted bad but it never burns if you mean combusting? If I'm not using water I set it at 2.

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I had it set to 3 , I guess I will tray again later tonight

Its not combusting. Just started to smell a burnt smell, How long are your draws usually ?

I draw for 45-75 seconds myself, but when out and about will often take only 4-5 second long drags at a low temp so as to avoid attention. With such short draws I find I do not need to wait too long in between draws.

Try different length draws and different speeds of inhalation and see what you like. Go peruse the Solo thread and you will find a treasure trove of info, or maybe ask this thread be merged into the Solo thread. You will likely get better answers there as well.

You are using it correctly, right? Putting the herb in the stem and not directly in the oven? But still inserting the stem all the way in the oven after packing it...

Anyways, try vaping it in all kinds of different ways to see how you like it including grinds and stirring, etc. Different cannabis vapes differently as well.

@HomeFree can you really draw for 75 seconds? You must have the largest lungs on your block.

If I fill up my stem I usually get 2 - 12 min. sessions. I usually use a medium grind and heat up my stem before taking my first draw. By the third draw I have some pretty milky vapor clouds. It also works well with most water tools. You would need an adapter (GonG) for that. Planetvape has GonGs for the Solo.

The Solo is a pretty simple vaporizer to use. It doesn't cost a lot and gives some great flavor from your cannabis. It doesn't use a lot to get you medicated. I like to use temps 3,4 and usually finish off on temp 5. I like using a bent stem, it's just more comfortable.

Just practice you will get the Solo nailed down.

Yeah, I thought it was less until I got out a stopwatch. My pulls I thought were 45-60 seconds turned out to be a minute and a half. Gives real dense flavor and vapor as long as you do not overwork the heater and take a long hard draw. I found around 1 minute to be about ideal for me, leaving room to inhale plain air afterwords before exhaling. Not necessarily big lungs, just a real slow draw.

If I use another vape which I can do quick inhales only for a length of time, and go back to the Solo, I have a heck of a time talking those long drags and can barely make it 30 seconds before feeling like I need to come up for air! But after a few sessions I get used to it. One of the reasons I like the stock stem is resistance. I have tried open bore and do not like it with the Solo, or rather have not mastered it. With a water tool I would inhale slow enough to where I could almost hear each individual bubble coming out.

Everyone needs to find their own zen with their solo. Fortunately it is easy enough for anyone to use successfully. I have just fired it up and handed it to people to try out and they do great. When I got mine new I thought there was no way to force the stem in the heater so I just held it up to the oven and it even still worked then! I was afraid of breaking it. The next day I turned it on and let it heat up and then tried to get the stem in there. It was a tight fit but worked! After that I fell in love!

I find myself primarily using my Solo on a water tool. I have a Planet Vape turbo shorty gong and use the pre-domed screens upside down. A very small amount of flower so it's crazy efficient. I preheat to level 6 and get two or three insane clouds out of it and it's done. Flower and time efficient! One or two of those bowl packs and you're done. Love it!!

Unless I am out on the boat fishing... then it's a stem. But maybe I will bring my D-020 sometime!

Jethro said:

I have a Planet Vape turbo shorty gong

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How do you find the fit in the oven and the overall robustness of the GonG?

I'm really interested in getting this WTA, but supply currently is a nightmare.

Yes, the supply with PV is not good, I know. I think it fits perfectly. It's loose like the original stem which I like. It's also very strong because I haven't broke it yet and I can break a football. Interestingly, I got a backup stem from PV, not the Arizer one, and it's tight, but the GonG fit's perfect. I also got a Joda GonG from Puffitup and it fit's way to tight.