Aromed 4.0

Now that I have owned another desktop vape (SSV) for several days and have something to compare with my Aromed, here are some thoughts about how the two vapes compare to each other. Keep in mind, I haven't had much time to really explore the SSV yet. Which means I will probably find ways to improve its performance, both with modification and without.

• My unmodified SSV performs infinitely better all-around than my unmodified Aromed, regardless of load size. My unmodified SSV doesn't handle tiny loads (<0.05 g) as well as it handles bigger loads, but it can be done, which is not true of my unmodified Aromed.
• My latest Aromed dough riser mod (and probably many earlier ones) performs better than an equivalent mod I've tried with the SSV.
• I am considerably less likely to break the SSV's important glass parts. (However, I actually did break the heater cover today, which means I'll be using mainly the Aromed for the next several days. I'm not sure if it happened because of something I did or because there was already something wrong with the glass.)

Left unmodified, my SSV is infinitely better than my unmodified Aromed. However, with my best current modifications on each vape, the Aromed performs a little better. Also, my modded Aromed can elicit clouds from (unmodified?) SSV ABV.

If I want a load of any more than about 0.1 g, I'll definitely use the SSV. But if I want 0.1 g or less, I'll use the Aromed with the tallest riser I have. Now I just need to figure out a good, easy mod to make the SSV perform better with tiny loads. I know @DDave offers an SSV mod kit, but I want to see if I can figure out my own mod before spending money I don't really have. (I don't think he makes a mod for the wand I have anyway.)

Out of a possible 5 stars...

Unmodified
Silver Surfer: 4.35 stars.
Aromed: 2 stars.

Modified
Aromed: 4.6 stars.
Silver Surfer: 4.5 stars.

Yes, I put the Aromed ahead of the SSV in modified performance. However, I should probably deduct at least a point from the Aromed simply because the Aromed's glass parts need to be cleaned considerably more frequently. Not only do they need considerably more cleaning, but they are also very easy to knock over and drop; both during transit and on the table.

As a handicapped, klutzy unofficial medical user, as far as I'm concerned, the need for modification and the ease of breaking important parts keeps the Aromed from being a medical device; modded or not. If the Aromed is certified anywhere as a preferred medical device, that's a joke to me. I'm pretty sure I have come up with a much better, more practical version of the Aromed in my head. (And that's where most of it will probably stay.) I think I may have figured out how the SSV could be vastly improved, too. (Not gonna talk about that, either.)

Current conclusion: If both of these vapes had the same price, and if I was asked to recommend one of them to a medical patient or to someone who may not be able to (or want to) make modifications, I'd recommend the [considerably less expensive] SSV.

you should check out the Herbalaire. its practically indestructible , incredibly efficient, not too expensive, and easy to use. but I don't want to encourage anyone else to develop V.A.S. as there is no known cure.

So I'm curious, how hard do most of you pull when drawing from the aromed, I mean the reason I ask is because of course I follow the blinking light, but for my aromed, once it has reached its temperature it's unpractical for me to even try to stop the light from blinking as in I don't think I pull air deep enough into my lungs..

Not sure... basically I'm wondering how hard you guys pull to get the blinking light to stop, and then if it stops do you just slow down and follow the light? I'm kind of worried my aromed might not work properly since I can't get the light to stop blinking unless it has just reached its temperature, if I wait longer than a minute or so after it reaches its temperature it will be almost impossible to make the light stop

My friend, whenever he comes over to try the aromed seems too pull harder than me and gets massive clouds. I'm just kind of envious cause I want to get the same results he gets, but ive used tge aromed way more than him yet still don't have the technique I guess. Any tips that you guys have would be awesome!!

I think the reason why it never stops blinking after you've used it for a while is because there is plenty of hot thermal mass after it's been on for a while.

I can't really comment on draw speed right now because I haven't been able to use my Aromed for about a month, due to broken herb holders.

I've never really taken much notice to the light while I'm inhaling. Once it gets up to my desired temp I usually just take a long slow draw. The resistance is so slight that I never feel the need to pull hard and I don't typically vape at high temps or cloud chase. I'm trying to get high and prefer the flavor at lower temps, as long as I achieve this the rest is irrelevant. I'll check how my light responds then next time I use it, its getting harder to find the privacy with a 12 yr old in the house...

did you guys now?
http://verdampftnochmal.de/products...aromed-uv-free-replacement-lamp-by-osram.html

justcametomind said:

did you guys now?
http://verdampftnochmal.de/products...aromed-uv-free-replacement-lamp-by-osram.html

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You can buy the proper light at practically any hardware/home store, am I missing something? This also seems expensive

I would like to mention to every Aromed head, that the aluminium(is it aluminium?) cover that covers the outside of the lightbulb housing should be pushed down as far as possible. The lower it is, the better my Aromed tastes and functions.

The herb holder I ordered a couple months ago is finally about to ship! I've been using my SSV pretty exclusively since my herb holder broke. Been smoking a little lately, too. Considering I haven't used my Aromed for so long, it should be interesting to use it again.

There are some things I like better about the SSV, but the SSV also has some issues I'm kinda sick of dealing with, like the fact that it can be awkward to use if you have any kind of manual handicap. What I do like about the SSV is that it seems to perform similarly with both big loads and small loads. What I don't like about it is that I want more heat. And there should be more heat, but the SSV wastes a ton of heat.

I also plan to have an Underdog fairly soon. I have already let Underdogette know what type of wood I want. So I think my banksia pod Underdog should exist within a week or so. Can't wait to give that a try. Everyone on the Underdog thread seems to love their UD, for the same reasons I expect to love mine.

I'm thinking of ordering the 'recreational' herb holder.
18euro plus 6.5euro international shipping. Anyone using it?
I do love the Dough Riser idea (@Aimless Ryan)

Aimless Ryan said:

The herb holder I ordered a couple months ago is finally about to ship! I've been using my SSV pretty exclusively since my herb holder broke. Been smoking a little lately, too. Considering I haven't used my Aromed for so long, it should be interesting to use it again.

There are some things I like better about the SSV, but the SSV also has some issues I'm kinda sick of dealing with, like the fact that it can be awkward to use if you have any kind of manual handicap. What I do like about the SSV is that it seems to perform similarly with both big loads and small loads. What I don't like about it is that I want more heat. And there should be more heat, but the SSV wastes a ton of heat.

I also plan to have an Underdog fairly soon. I have already let Underdogette know what type of wood I want. So I think my banksia pod Underdog should exist within a week or so. Can't wait to give that a try. Everyone on the Underdog thread seems to love their UD, for the same reasons I expect to love mine.

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Did you order one of the "recreational herb holders" Ryan? They're the smaller in length ones they work great.. Also Make sure the aluminum coil that's in the heater cover is pushed down as far as your can get it to go, this makes the aromed perform to its fullest

@milKmArsh

I have been using the Recreational ones for over a year, I was a guinea pig for the company, I took my time to really try it out, but yeah after seeing Aimless Ryan with his mods and such I was very adamant to the company that these new herb holders could change the face of the aromed, especially if they release an Aromed 5.0 with some refinements, a better microprocessor with even more precise control, a stronger overall light for quicker heat up and extraction etc..

But yeah the rec herb holders are very good, I used to like the aromed a lot , the RECHH made me LOVE IT, then I found out about making sure the aluminium is all the way down if you know what I mean, the aluminium that blocks the light/heat from escaping, The Aromed is top notch, and for it's price hah.. steal of a vape

The company actually replied to me about a week after they released the RecHH and they said they didn't expect it, but they had a lot of people interested in them. Haha.

@TboneToker, yeah I'm sold on the rec holder... Probably order one during the week. How did you get to be on the guinea pig list?
I think I know what you mean with the aluminium and light... So the aluminium shield is nearly touching the bottom of the glass?

...just ordered the recreational herb holder...

hey guys can you maybe help me out here ?
ok so i have pretty much read through this whole thread , im just about to pull the trigger on one of these units . but one thing that i would be disappointed about if i did purchase it , would be if i found out that it is not any better then my solo as far as the thickness of the vapor .
i think i would be disappointed with this even if the vapor was much better tasting then the solo . im just wondering this because it seems some of the post here suggest that as good a vape as this thing is , it might be a little bit whispby in vapor production .
i like to use my solo on 6 with a pvhes turbo stem . i struggle with converting fully to vaping , not that i want to convert 100 % .
as once in a while i truly enjoy smoking a joint and dont have any wanting to totally give this up . but at the same time i want to be as health conscious as possible . but if the aromed does not produce at least the same thickness , and satisfying vapor as the solo .i would not really want to put down the money for this vape . anybody have experience with both and can confirm weather or not i should be concerned ...thanks !

I get good clouds, but I never use my Aromed unmodified. That's not a coincidence. If I used my normal-size load (<0.1 g) without lifting my herbs an inch closer to the bulb than usual, almost nothing would happen, because the temperature at the normal screen position is probably nearly 100°F less than the temperature an inch higher.

I understand why you struggle to fully fuck combustion. As I believe I may have said in my previous post, I have been combusting intentionally lately a little. I'd rather vape exclusively, but sometimes I get really sick of waiting for nothing to happen. And I don't want to use half-gram loads. I have very good reasons for that, but my reasons don't conform to conventional vaping wisdom, so I'm not even going to try to explain it right now.

I have an Air, which I think I've read performs nearly identically to the Solo. I don't use the Air much anymore. When my Aromed is in working order, as it should be tomorrow (because my herb holder did not arrive yesterday), it gets used way more than my Air. I just don't care to spend 5-8 minutes working on 0.03 g of herbs.

I would not be able to use my Aromed unmodified unless I used at least half a gram of herbs with every load. However, with my riser mod, I think I've concluded that it probably outperforms my Air and possibly my SSV. I'd just rather not have to modify it, and I shouldn't have to.

thanks Aimless Ryan ,
i tried to google were to purchase this recreational herb holder but cant find it online any links ? i suppose i could get a bunch of those glass screen bead things . place one screen at the bottom were it is designed to go with a stack of them on top then another screen on top of those and place the herbs on top of higher screen ? do you think this would work ? but yes its kinda of a shame that this would be required if the recreational herb holder is not to hard to get and works better i would consider that option as maybe the best solution

The hard part about raising screens in the herb holder is that the entire herb holder has a slightly smaller diameter than the spot where the screen normally sits. A flat screen works in the normal position, but if lifted it must be domed fairly precisely or it will be all crooked. It's not hard to get the proper degree of doming, but I still feel much more comfortable when it's sitting on something (like a riser), rather than levitating above water.

The left screen is domed about right. The right screen has never been used. I think the easiest way to dome a screen is to just push down on the middle of it with a fingertip when it's at the bottom of the herb holder.



@Vital Weren't you just telling me about the shorter herb holder? You know where to get them?

just found this is this http://verdampftnochmal.de/products...aromed-parts/aromed-herb-chamber-spezial.html anybody have any experience ordering from Germany to Canada something like this anyone know of somewhere in Canada that carries these

@chris 71 I ordered the smaller herb holder from Frank Fuchs himself, the creator of the Aromed.
The email is research@aromed.com
I only ordered it yesterday so fingers crossed. I'm in Australia. Shipping was 6.50 euro. I did pay 18euro for the herb holder, not 15.90 like the one you've found.

thanks milKmArsh , thats better then the site i posted , they want like 52 euros just for shipping and insurance before the price of the herb holder

It's been several weeks since I've used my Aromed. I finally received my Grasshopper and have been using it daily. Last night I had a chance to use the Aromed and it knocked me on my ass ! the first thing I always notice when I haven't used it in a while is how great the flavor is. The hopper is good, the vapman is better, but the Aromed is special. If the recreational herb holder is better, I'm not sure I need it except to minimize my usage. As for the blinking light, mine blinks when its up to temp but stays constant when I'm inhaling. I usually set the temp to 375 and always get vapor but not thick. I've never been a cloud chaser but an effect chaser. If I'm getting high i don't care about the look of the vapor. Higher temps with more clouds don't increase my high but do affect my throat , lungs, and mild asthma. This would still be my daily driver if I could leave it out all the time, but alas I have a 12 year old...

My herb holder showed up not long ago. Having not been able to use my Aromed for a couple months, I can now say I've missed it (with riser mod). I just hope I don't break something again.

I think that this deserves to be posted in here today . . .

chris 71 said:

hey guys can you maybe help me out here ?
ok so i have pretty much read through this whole thread , im just about to pull the trigger on one of these units . but one thing that i would be disappointed about if i did purchase it , would be if i found out that it is not any better then my solo as far as the thickness of the vapor .
i think i would be disappointed with this even if the vapor was much better tasting then the solo . im just wondering this because it seems some of the post here suggest that as good a vape as this thing is , it might be a little bit whispby in vapor production .
i like to use my solo on 6 with a pvhes turbo stem . i struggle with converting fully to vaping , not that i want to convert 100 % .
as once in a while i truly enjoy smoking a joint and dont have any wanting to totally give this up . but at the same time i want to be as health conscious as possible . but if the aromed does not produce at least the same thickness , and satisfying vapor as the solo .i would not really want to put down the money for this vape . anybody have experience with both and can confirm weather or not i should be concerned ...thanks !

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When you have the recreational herb holder and make sure the aluminum in the light chamber is pushed down fully it gives huge clouds, and very tasty the temperature range is huge too

@Aimless Ryan Get the recreational herb holder on the aromed website, order direct from manufacturi) research and experience

I made a video this morning to show how my dough risers affect my Aromed experience. It just finished uploading. The best, most useful part is probably the last minute and a half, but I think it's worth watching the whole thing.

Here's a shorter version (2:52), with all the unnecessary crap cut out.