Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

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Sick Vape

Solar Dabs
phried said:
I have to say, finally owning a Crafty encourages one to join FC and say "this is one fine piece of hardware."
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Thats exactly what I did.
Hello fellow vaporists.
"this is one fine piece of hardware."
Fuck Combustion:rockon:

vapviking said:
Sucks to have problems so soon out of the box. Lucky this doesn't stop the whole ride!
I could swear mine misses a beat every now and then (forgets to vibrate). But then I'm never really sure I can prove it! And well, it's been this way thru 3 Crafty's and a Mighty, so maybe it's just me?...
I think the best part about the vibration feature is that it can get you a new piece when it breaks.
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:D

My Crafty forgets to hum too, sometimes. It is not just you :). I "forget" to send it back for replacement. It really doesn't bother me. But I understand it can be a problem for some.
 
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vapviking

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Mr.Sifter said:
i know this thread is not representative for all crafty owners but it seems to me that the crafty is one fragile little device.
so many people telling about their second and third device.
is the reliability so low ?
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Mrbrown81k said:
I think its getting better, but if I had to do it over Id go for the Mighty. Seems more reliable , and cant stand having to charge my device after every 3 uses anymore. If you do go for a Crafty I highly suggest buying a backup portable.
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I agree that Crafty has a rep for being tempermental (plus, I had 3 of them fail), though I am also willing to accept that there are tens of thousands of good-working Crafty's in the wild, and S&B has continued to make minor improvements to it on the fly. Service is great, so for the frustration of it failing and then mailing it out, you usually get rewarded with a new one (2 year ride on the warranty train). I now have a Mighty; for my use pattern, the Mighty is unquestionably a better fit. It seems if you are going to use the heck outta it, Mighty does that better.

The thing here that caught my attention is,"If you do go for a Crafty I highly suggest buying a backup portable." We must pause and reflect on that. Along with laying out $300+, and, uh, $$ for something to put in it, drop another hundred or three on a backup vape! Sadly, I happen to agree. Some folks just roll with it and get a second Crafty/Mighty. I have a Pax2 that only sees occasional use. It surely is a testament to the terrific performance of both the Crafty and Mighty, that owners are willing to go through a lot to have one.
 
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phried

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vapviking said:
I agree that Crafty has a rep for being tempermental (plus, I had 3 of them fail), though I am also willing to accept that there are tens of thousands of good-working Crafty's in the wild, and S&B has continued to make minor improvements to it on the fly. Service is great, so for the frustration of it failing and then mailing it out, you usually get rewarded with a new one (2 year ride on the warranty train). I now have a Mighty; for my use pattern, the Mighty is unquestionably a better fit. It seems if you are going to use the heck outta it, Mighty does that better.

The thing here that caught my attention is,"If you do go for a Crafty I highly suggest buying a backup portable." We must pause and reflect on that. Along with laying out $300+, and, uh, $$ for something to put in it, drop another hundred or three on a backup vape! Sadly, I happen to agree. Some folks just roll with it and get a second Crafty/Mighty. I have a Pax2 that only sees occasional use. It surely is a testament to the terrific performance of both the Crafty and Mighty, that owners are willing to go through a lot to have one.
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Oh this is exactly what happened to me. Not a fan of bags too much so even with the Volcano's legendary reliability its out of the question. The Plenty wasn't around, and since people raved about how similar the quality of the vapor between their products are, I went for the Crafty. No regrets, but I've since anticipated its eventual demise and gotten a desktop vape. And pre-ordered a Firefly2 as a backup portable (or it might be the other way around, we'll see).

But really, it's just good excuse to give in to VAS. I don't mind.
 
Crafty Vaper

Crafty Vaper

Ain't easy being green
Hi Crafty Vapers! My third unit died on Tuesday :ugh: (200 hours, firmware 2.08) and I sent it to S&B directly the same day. Yesterday I received an email that my unit has arrived S&B repair center.:nod:Today I received a 2nd email that my unit has been repaired or replaced. :clap:
This is my 4th time sending a unit back for repair/replacement and the only thing I can say is Storz&Bickels customer service rocks! :rockon:
 
vapviking

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Crafty Vaper said:
Hi Crafty Vapers! My third unit died on Tuesday :ugh: (200 hours, firmware 2.08) and I sent it to S&B directly the same day. Yesterday I received an email that my unit has arrived S&B repair center.:nod:Today I received a 2nd email that my unit has been repaired or replaced. :clap:
This is my 4th time sending a unit back for repair/replacement and the only thing I can say is Storz&Bickels customer service rocks! :rockon:
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Thanks. 200 hours is a pretty good run! Oakland once told me 145 hrs (in two months) was 'impressive' as they billed me for battery!, but that was so 'last year'. No worries, I still love them.
Germany or Oakland?
Pls let us know what you get!
 
Crafty Vaper

Crafty Vaper

Ain't easy being green
vapviking said:
Thanks. 200 hours is a pretty good run! Oakland once told me 145 hrs (in two months) was 'impressive' as they billed me for battery!, but that was so 'last year'. No worries, I still love them.
Germany or Oakland?
Pls let us know what you get!
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Germany. My first unit had round about 80 hours and my second one 220 hours.
 
vapviking

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Crafty Vaper said:




Hi vapers! Home from work and bam! :brow:My new crafty has arrived. Unbelievable, sent it in Tuesday afternoon! :bowdown: to S&B customer service!
They have changed the serial numbers, now it is a mix of letters and numbers.
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Yes, this week a new serial number format also reported on a Mighty (from S&B Germany). Gotta think it means something. Or, just to make us wonder...?
Enjoy!
 
stoneloc

stoneloc

Well-Known Member
vapviking said:
Yes, this week a new serial number format also reported on a Mighty (from S&B Germany). Gotta think it means something. Or, just to make us wonder...?
Enjoy!
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Hopefully it means a more reliable Crafty, since the one I bought two months ago has that format. So far it's holding on well at 35 hours though I think it does miss the odd vibration.

On another note, damn, this is a good vaporizer. I haven't used my Silver Surfer since I bought it--I like that this doesn't dominate my coffee table.

I just added an Anker battery equivalent to (but cheaper than) the official power pack and have been using it as a daily driver. I'm very happy with the performance.
 
Cardiox

Cardiox

Active Member
I am out of the O-ring that connects the two main parts of the mouthpiece. The straw has it's o-ring and so does the part that connects to the chamber. So basically, is it okay that I am going to use it this way? Will it affect the way the unit draws? It has not seemed to be bad so far but I am not sure If I am making a mistake doing this. http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/shop/crafty-seal-ring-set.html Getting them either way.
 
Cardiox,
vapviking

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Cardiox said:
I am out of the O-ring that connects the two main parts of the mouthpiece. The straw has it's o-ring and so does the part that connects to the chamber. So basically, is it okay that I am going to use it this way? Will it affect the way the unit draws? It has not seemed to be bad so far but I am not sure If I am making a mistake doing this. http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/shop/crafty-seal-ring-set.html Getting them either way.
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If you're missing the o-ring that seals the two halves of the cooling unit together,
It's not harming anything to use it this way, but it will let extra air in through there, possibly diluting your vape as it passes thru, so, less efficient may be another way of saying it. I bet it still achieves desired effect! You should put a new seal in there for 'optimal' results.
 
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zzrvr

Well-Known Member
This is my second Crafty and was wondering how hot it should be. It gets hot from the bottom to the top, almost too hot to hold. Seems like when it was new that it only got hot at the top or near the oven. Has anyone else had this problem?
 
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Mr. Me2

Mr. Me2

Well-Known Member
vapviking said:
If you're missing the o-ring that seals the two halves of the cooling unit together,
It's not harming anything to use it this way, but it will let extra air in through there, possibly diluting your vape as it passes thru, so, less efficient may be another way of saying it. I bet it still achieves desired effect! You should put a new seal in there for 'optimal' results.
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And it never hurts to get an extra cu
 
Hai_Rypo_T'head

Hai_Rypo_T'head

Why smoke and die, when you can vape and fly?
The Crafty: An unreliable, over-rated, over-priced, gimmick-laden, piece of plastic. Its sole merits: a quickly-concealed swivelling mouthpiece and easy draw. This lopsided, dust-and-dirt collecting unit ignores basic design principles, and would have raised laughs and eyebrows among the first year industrial design students I lectured in 1990s. The outsized flashing charging/heating lights, and noisy vibrating feature, major distractions, and only two temperature settings, unless you use a cell phone. Another gimmick. Plus four replaceable (bright blue) sealing rings. I can hardly believe the Crafty has received so many accolades. A rip-off @ around AUD$400. For the same price or less, get yourself a superbly designed, solid metal alloy body Arizer Air (AUD$242 with discount), PLUS the elegant, much-improved Flowermate Vapormax PRO, a bargain @ AUD$155 introduced around New Year 2015-16, with many innovative features. Either one is superior to the Crafty. For intending Crafty buyers, buying the Air and Flowermate together should be a no-brainer.
 
Hai_Rypo_T'head,
Thcgos

Thcgos

Vape Addict
Hai_Rypo_T'head said:
The Crafty: An unreliable, over-rated, over-priced, gimmick-laden, piece of plastic. Its sole merits: a quickly-concealed swivelling mouthpiece and easy draw. This lopsided, dust-and-dirt collecting unit ignores basic design principles, and would have raised laughs and eyebrows among the first year industrial design students I lectured in 1990s. The outsized flashing charging/heating lights, and noisy vibrating feature, major distractions, and only two temperature settings, unless you use a cell phone. Another gimmick. Plus four replaceable (bright blue) sealing rings. I can hardly believe the Crafty has received so many accolades. A rip-off @ around AUD$400. For the same price or less, get yourself a superbly designed, solid metal alloy body Arizer Air (AUD$242 with discount), PLUS the elegant, much-improved Flowermate Vapormax PRO, a bargain @ AUD$155 introduced around New Year 2015-16, with many innovative features. Either one is superior to the Crafty. For intending Crafty buyers, buying the Air and Flowermate together should be a no-brainer.
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I think you neglected to take into account, how it actually performs with respect to:
  • Smoothness of vapor.
  • Vapor density.
  • Speed of extraction.
  • Efficacy.
  • Always consistent results.
  • Ability to get good results using small amounts (Using only stock parts that came in the box).
  • The cooling units ability to capture particulates (as opposed to the straight stems which would otherwise be inhaled)
  • Easy reclaim
  • The ability to hold good flavour until the last draws.
  • Not having glass mouthpieces floating around in you pockets, which also get extremely hot to handle.
  • Ability to turn off the LED/vibrate at the users discretion.
  • A filling aid that works remarkably well.
  • Convection.
It is these areas that the Crafty truly excels by a large margin.

I own both the Arizer solo (larger version of the Air) and the flowermate v5s.
Both don't perform anywhere near as well in the areas mentioned above.

My flowermate failed completely, in a shorter period of time than I've had my Crafty (0 returns on my crafty in 40+ hrs).

The flowermate has several other innovative features, such as:
  • The sliding doors breaking (a common problem, seeing as they sell spares).
  • The electronics sliding out of the aluminum shell.
  • The ceramic in the oven bowl eventually flaking off. Not entirely safe in my opinion.
I've never complained about my flowermate, mainly because of the low price point. It's a good unit for its price... but it's certainly no engineering feat as you've made it out to be and can't be compared to the crafty.

The crafty is also assembled in Germany with people who are paid a fair wage, which I'm also happy to pay slightly more for.
But the performance of the unit alone sold me.

I would happily sell my solo and Flowermate to fund another crafty.
 
JayDay

JayDay

Newbs
Ive had the Crafty for about 13 months now and have had 3 warranty replacements. Im pretty sure that ill still buy another one if my Crafty dies after warranty even though I have a Mighty as my main b.

"Form follows function" is all I can say.

SnB facemeltin since 19 somethin

BTT: Wow I just got my 3rd Crafty last week and I still have the old s/n which is CY055xxx

@Crafty Vaper - Wow 1:32 heatup time? I gotta test my less than an hour old unit if its that fast. 9 minutes on boost huh? I try not to stay on boost for that long
 
vapviking

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Hai_Rypo_T'head said:
The Crafty: An unreliable, over-rated, over-priced, gimmick-laden, piece of plastic. Its sole merits: a quickly-concealed swivelling mouthpiece and easy draw. This lopsided, dust-and-dirt collecting unit ignores basic design principles, and would have raised laughs and eyebrows among the first year industrial design students I lectured in 1990s. The outsized flashing charging/heating lights, and noisy vibrating feature, major distractions, and only two temperature settings, unless you use a cell phone. Another gimmick. Plus four replaceable (bright blue) sealing rings. I can hardly believe the Crafty has received so many accolades. A rip-off @ around AUD$400. For the same price or less, get yourself a superbly designed, solid metal alloy body Arizer Air (AUD$242 with discount), PLUS the elegant, much-improved Flowermate Vapormax PRO, a bargain @ AUD$155 introduced around New Year 2015-16, with many innovative features. Either one is superior to the Crafty. For intending Crafty buyers, buying the Air and Flowermate together should be a no-brainer.
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Some of your points form a valid design critique of the Crafty. I agree it is less than perfect. (Mighty is better! for example). I am annoyed when little plastic parts snap off.

I also agree with all of the counter points made by @Thcgos , most notably that your critique doesn't address quality of output, in my book an over-riding factor. Two Hyundai's do not equal and will never perform like one Mercedes.
 
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theone

Member
There are capsules for the mighty and crafty sold by S&B. Check the fc topic on the mighty or the site vapormed.com (official s&b site). The site is only accessible outside the USA because they promote the use of weed for medical reasons.

Now the real interesting thing is that this is clearly a new initiative with new products that they're going to launch in a short time. They also mailed a fc member that the capsules will be sold on the normal site in a few weeks. Makes me wonder why the crafty isn't on there...
 
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BostonREB

BostonREB

Member
Hey Y'all. So I'm at 97 hours and I've noticed the heat up time has increased substantially. To get to 361F, it is now talking close to 4 minutes! So, is this just a Crafting getting "older" thing or is my battery looking to shit the bed soon? Is there anything that can help shorten the heat up time again?
 
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cloudsosmoke

cloudsosmoke

Well-Known Member
EDIT it was discussed on mighty thread few days ago

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biohacker

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theone said:
Makes me wonder why the crafty isn't on there...
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Read the post after yours :p

BostonREB said:
So, is this just a Crafting getting "older" thing or is my battery looking to shit the bed soon?
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Older, and everyone has different experiences based on how they treated their battery. I wouldn't say it's going to shit the bed soon though, but I was experiencing about 3:45 heatup to 180 after 35 hours or so. My Crafty was the 1st generation, and constantly overheated.

BostonREB said:
Is there anything that can help shorten the heat up time again?
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Yep, S&B battery service! :rofl:
 
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