Herr_Dampf
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I still haven't used my E-Nano since I got the Supreme. Also returned a borrowed Sublimator because I haven't used it since the Supreme has landed.
Really not much else to say.
Really not much else to say.
Discontinued Supreme Vaporizer
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nosmoking
Just so Dab HAppy!
No there really isn't. @VegNVape and @IAmKrazy2 had a little discussion about both of these in the Zion thread some time ago. Krazy praised the Supreme as the biggest hitter/ heaviest extractors on the market while VnV couldn't let that go and had to mention that he felt the King of heavy one-hit extraction is the Sublimator. Neither had the other device to do a comparison. So finally we have something to go off of here. Of course, other opinions may vary as this is only one opinion but I certainly like it. I had thought about getting a Sub...you have saved me some money here probably.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
ENano is too apples and oranges for me but i would love to hear how this one compares to the Sub. I have always wanted a Sub but the price has always seemed too much to me for what i was getting. Could you give us some comparisons in taste, extraction power, heat up time, ease of use, ect? Thank you so much!
Herr_Dampf
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The E-Nano used to be my daily driver, that's why I pointed it out. As far as load sizes go, they are pretty same sized apples and oranges at least. 
As far as the sub goes, imho it only wins when it comes to extraction power out of the four categories you gave me. You can pretty much throw whatever at it and get a full extraction. The sub also wins when it comes to heat rendition but I found the initial heat up time to be very long. While both vapes come with big, exposed heating elements I found the sub more awkward to handle. Taste can be great with both but I found the Supreme slightly better.
Don't get me wrong, the Sub is a great vape. I just found that for my usual load size, the Supreme offers more bang for the buck. With the Sub I used so much more herb, not because I needed more to get where I wanted, but it was so much fun to blow gigantic clouds.
I always have a hard time comparing vapes for other people. So much personal preferences that go in there. If there are any specific questions just PM me, don't wanna derail the thread.
As far as the sub goes, imho it only wins when it comes to extraction power out of the four categories you gave me. You can pretty much throw whatever at it and get a full extraction. The sub also wins when it comes to heat rendition but I found the initial heat up time to be very long. While both vapes come with big, exposed heating elements I found the sub more awkward to handle. Taste can be great with both but I found the Supreme slightly better.
Don't get me wrong, the Sub is a great vape. I just found that for my usual load size, the Supreme offers more bang for the buck. With the Sub I used so much more herb, not because I needed more to get where I wanted, but it was so much fun to blow gigantic clouds.
I always have a hard time comparing vapes for other people. So much personal preferences that go in there. If there are any specific questions just PM me, don't wanna derail the thread.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
The E-Nano used to be my daily driver, that's why I pointed it out. As far as load sizes go, they are pretty same sized apples and oranges at least.
As far as the sub goes, imho it only wins when it comes to extraction power out of the four categories you gave me. You can pretty much throw whatever at it and get a full extraction. The sub also wins when it comes to heat rendition but I found the initial heat up time to be very long. While both vapes come with big, exposed heating elements I found the sub more awkward to handle. Taste can be great with both but I found the Supreme slightly better.
Don't get me wrong, the Sub is a great vape. I just found that for my usual load size, the Supreme offers more bang for the buck. With the Sub I used so much more herb, not because I needed more to get where I wanted, but it was so much fun to blow gigantic clouds.
I always have a hard time comparing vapes for other people. So much personal preferences that go in there. If there are any specific questions just PM me, don't wanna derail the thread.
Thanks for the info. Considering the Sub could possibly rival the S3 in extaction sure makes me want to add one to my collection or at least try one.
I just ordered a second tube/screen/18mm adaptor from Ed. He wasn't super quick to respond, but once he did he took care of me very well. So in all my experiences dealing with him over the years he has been excellent in his actual interactions IMO, but not always quick in response. Just something to keep in mind if trying to email Ed l for a beter price then you see on ebay. Be patient.
lazylathe
Almost there...
For the cost of a Sub it had better be 10 times as good as my Supreme for me to even consider it.
I want one for the novelty and because it is made here in Canada!
Supreme is still safer to use imo though.
That massive super heat sink head has caused some serious burns, check the thread!
My new stock arrived tonight!!
Supreme was up for testing as per usual!
First up, Tangerine Dream! Beautiful taste, extremely hard to describe!
Next up, Platinum Bubba Kush! OMFG!!! This is AWESOME!!!
Finally found a good dispensary to buy from!
More expensive but way more potent!!
Grizzly_Adams
Torch vapes all the way!
Hey guys first post on here been a silent member for a while 
but have a supreme 3 on its way very excited! But I see talk about the Sub but there's a torch powered Sub also called the sublimnator eliminater. It's 290 idk if it's worth checking out seen it on vapefiend youtube page. https://sublimator.ca/product/flame-powered-titanium-sublimator/
but have a supreme 3 on its way very excited! But I see talk about the Sub but there's a torch powered Sub also called the sublimnator eliminater. It's 290 idk if it's worth checking out seen it on vapefiend youtube page. https://sublimator.ca/product/flame-powered-titanium-sublimator/
lazylathe
Almost there...
Hey guys first post on here been a silent member for a while
Welcome to the forum!
And great choice on a vape!!
As for the version you linked, no temp readout so you will need a temp gun for any consistency.
Supreme has that built in.
Price is almost double the Supreme!
I would rather buy two Supremes, you know, just in case...LOL!!
It still is my favourite vape of all time!
And it's knocked out some heavy hitters...
nosmoking
Just so Dab HAppy!
There is a thread for that one here too but its not much of one-
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/sublimator-eliminator.19268/
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/sublimator-eliminator.19268/
Yeah, I've got a UFO too.
And I am very pleased and not at all surprised to hear that there is no contest when comparing it to the Supreme.
The UFO is slow, clunky, pretty damn dangerous (it is an extreme heated mass of stainless steel attached to a chain) & inconsistent - until you learn to get a good technique down, which can take quite a considerable amount of practice & a fair bit of wasted material.
The UFO is more of a 'throw it in the campfire' end-of-days type of vaporizer. Not really something to use for maximum efficiency as a daily driver.
So, I think that for the majority of non-apocalyptic scenarios, I would much rather have the Supreme, which I still look forward to trying out at some point. Especially as it sounds to me like it's pretty much an analogue Sublimator in the way that it performs.
Gosh darn it, I LOVE VAPES!
And I am very pleased and not at all surprised to hear that there is no contest when comparing it to the Supreme.
The UFO is slow, clunky, pretty damn dangerous (it is an extreme heated mass of stainless steel attached to a chain) & inconsistent - until you learn to get a good technique down, which can take quite a considerable amount of practice & a fair bit of wasted material.
The UFO is more of a 'throw it in the campfire' end-of-days type of vaporizer. Not really something to use for maximum efficiency as a daily driver.
So, I think that for the majority of non-apocalyptic scenarios, I would much rather have the Supreme, which I still look forward to trying out at some point. Especially as it sounds to me like it's pretty much an analogue Sublimator in the way that it performs.
Gosh darn it, I LOVE VAPES!
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Grizzly_Adams
Torch vapes all the way!
So far love my supreme like the first hit was at like 186°C and wow what a intense hit and I've never been a real cloud chaser had a cloud evo thought it was all hype but like this makes the cloud evo look so bad imo thick hits amazing extraction definitely living up to what I expected it to be. I don't know if it will be my daily driver but definitely the weekend vape.
Razshiro
Well-Known Member
I prefer the 1st hit at 155-160°C, then 2nd hit near 165-170°C and last hit at 175°C , i never go above 180°C (with flowers only)... Usually i can extract all in two hits, sometimes even one hit is enough!! damn this vape extract so fast, so well !!!
Grizzly_Adams
Torch vapes all the way!
Ok just saying very satisfied again just took my first hit of the day with the Supreme, excellent effecto the extraction is crazy on this. My tolerance is really high and this giving me a buzz I would get after hitting the lotus 5 times.
Goes to show that the "all glass airpath" is much hype in comparison eh? No electronics (other than the thermometer) is a huge added bonus too, and you won't be out $100 if you drop it. And the SuP3 is what, like 1/2 the price? Could never go back to the Cloud, after finding the light of the Supreme! Also let's not forget that you don't even need to grind! Nothing I have ever experienced has come close to the flavour of the Supreme on lower temps without grinding. It's something that every connoisseur should get the pleasure of experiencing. Really is game changing.
I'm sure i'll say it many more times, but Thanks again Ed... you are a true Pioneer in this industry!
HD Springer
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I'm not going to lie the first time I seen the Supreme I thought what a joke of a vaporizer. Then I watched a video of it in action and my first impressions were thrown out the door. I will eventually try/own one myself. Got too!!!
This is not the entry level vape that will draw the masses in on aesthetics alone. But DAMN see it in action and all bets are off.
This is not the entry level vape that will draw the masses in on aesthetics alone. But DAMN see it in action and all bets are off.
nosmoking
Just so Dab HAppy!
Did you ever get your Supreme back together? My sleeve ended up giving in the same day I posted it was showing cracks in the sleeve. I was not going to go a moment without my Supreme and I had the statements above stuck in my head. I knew I needed to keep the sensor attached tightly to the Supreme and that I did not want to remove the rest of the stuff below the sleeve to replace it so cut a piece of silicone tubing that was slightly smaller in diameter than the original sleeve. I then cut the tubing so that it was no longer a tube and could be flattened. I then wrapped that around the temp sensor and used some thin metal wire to further tighten and hold the sleeve and sensor in place. It has been working good as new ever since!
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
Awesome job. I have been too busy to properly fix my Supreme, however if I can find some good wire to strip, I may try to do something like what you have done. Thank you for the ideas.
Did you ever get your Supreme back together? My sleeve ended up giving in the same day I posted it was showing cracks in the sleeve. I was not going to go a moment without my Supreme and I had the statements above stuck in my head. I knew I needed to keep the sensor attached tightly to the Supreme and that I did not want to remove the rest of the stuff below the sleeve to replace it so cut a piece of silicone tubing that was slightly smaller in diameter than the original sleeve. I then cut the tubing so that it was no longer a tube and could be flattened. I then wrapped that around the temp sensor and used some thin metal wire to further tighten and hold the sleeve and sensor in place. It has been working good as new ever since!
nosmoking
Just so Dab HAppy!
I don't know if I could survive without my Supreme...I think she's had one night off since I got her.Awesome job. I have been too busy to properly fix my Supreme, however if I can find some good wire to strip, I may try to do something like what you have done. Thank you for the ideas.
Sometimes the tie around bread or other similarly bagged items is a metal and plastic wire tie. I lit the plastic on fire with my torch and melted the plastic around the wire tie so I was just left with the metal wire. Perhaps you can find something similar in your house! Good luck to you however and whenever you decide to fix it!
On another note, I decided to give myself the rest of the afternoon off and the wife took the kids to the Discovery Museum (4 floors of fun for kids!) so 4:20 is about to get real Supreme up in my house! I think I'll check out for the weekend now...
Grizzly_Adams
Torch vapes all the way!
Well did my first oops moment with the Supreme I thought I was in Fahrenheit and heated my vape 230° C shot a email to Ed hopefully I get a email soon it seems like everything is ok just wanted to see if it could of damaged anything
nosmoking
Just so Dab HAppy!
I think the only concern with going over 200c is that the silicone sleeve that holds the sensor in place will crack and detiorate like mine and Mister G. Take a look at the silicone and just watch it over the next couple days or so. If it fails you can fix it but it is not easy at all unless you rig it the way I did which may not be recommended by Ed as I never discussed my issue or solution with him.
subway13029
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This beast is exactly that...A BEAST!! I had totally thrown in the towel on butane vapes..not for lack of being able to use them. I feel like i can get great hits and extraction out of my manual vapes. But it just seemed cumbersome at times and i got rid of most of them but the supreme popped up and this is just the densest vapor and so satisfying to see that thick vapor milking up your piece and the exact temp control is the best..with other butane vapes its a guessing game as to what range you are actually hitting..likr i said i get great extraction out of them all but cant say im gonna go low temp on my lilly..(of course i can lower my flame,etc ) but supreme makes it so easy..If you like big bong hits with thick ass vapor then you gotta get this BEAST!
Subway, SO happy to see you join the SUP family! I completely agree and happy you have seen the light! We are a Supreme cult following! I still can't even believe my VAS has been cured between this and the S&B portables. There is simply no need for anything else for my needs!
Welcome to the family!
Welcome to the family!
subway13029
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Ive been for about 2 months maybe but im still anazed by it..when is you t break ending @biohacker ?