. Last I remember was texting someone to catch up & then I woke up in bed about 4 hours later. I did think I may have overdone it at the time & I was right.
Verax
Well-Known Member
Hi all! So, my dog and I have gotten a chance to get to know each other now, and I'm in love. It's now my go-to home vape. One minor problem I'm trying to solve - I have an air core in mine, and I put an O-ring on the core, to prevent it from being able to slide down inside the glass stems. When I rest the unit under it's own weight, upside down into one of the stems, the weight of the dog alone is enough to push that O-ring down.
Does anyone else use the O-rings? Do you have a trick to make them stay better? Could I add 2-3 O-rings, to help add friction? Or would that be bad for the core for some reason?
Thanks!
Does anyone else use the O-rings? Do you have a trick to make them stay better? Could I add 2-3 O-rings, to help add friction? Or would that be bad for the core for some reason?
Thanks!
Hi all! So, my dog and I have gotten a chance to get to know each other now, and I'm in love. It's now my go-to home vape. One minor problem I'm trying to solve - I have an air core in mine, and I put an O-ring on the core, to prevent it from being able to slide down inside the glass stems. When I rest the unit under it's own weight, upside down into one of the stems, the weight of the dog alone is enough to push that O-ring down.
Does anyone else use the O-rings? Do you have a trick to make them stay better? Could I add 2-3 O-rings, to help add friction? Or would that be bad for the core for some reason?
Thanks!
Hey Verax- Glad to hear you're loving your pup! As for the O-rings, if you've got some extras, then yes, you could stack a few on there and see if that holds better.
We've been playing around with a tighter o-ring and have been installing them onto pups who get that option with their vape at checkout. The only thing is we're trying to find a way for you guys to be able to install them at home. I think we might have an answer; we just haven't worked out the details yet.
KiefVape
New Member
I just bought one of these and watched the videos I'm still not sure what to do and how to use it. I have all the stems but church one should I use and should I move the screen? The box said it would have a dimmer? In between the extension and power supply? Idk but I don't think mine had a separate dimmer? Could be wrong. Anyways idk really how to use it outside of the wall can I just unplug and use it somewhere else? Can I just plug into a car? How do I use a cr charger? Wat are the battery packs? I also wanted to know when I put the grind in the stem (wen I do) and then I just set it on the vape and then wat happens? Which side of the stem goes to the vape? Wen do I take the hit? Is there a delay how do I make the vapor? Idk really how this thing works. But I'm sure it's simple
Can anyone send me a pic of their burnt material? Mine looks like it's been smoked idk I heard a crackle I think this thing is too hot u said it tested hot? I'm getting high but idk if it's true vapor and if I'm grinding too thick but there seems to be good grind left in the cashed bowl. Idk I'll take a pic maybe but I thought it would be more odorless and just plain thin black dust but idk I'm seeing colors of green and stuff in the product I blow out. I'm not sure how to tel if it's working?
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Can anyone send me a pic of their burnt material? Mine looks like it's been smoked idk I heard a crackle I think this thing is too hot u said it tested hot? I'm getting high but idk if it's true vapor and if I'm grinding too thick but there seems to be good grind left in the cashed bowl. Idk I'll take a pic maybe but I thought it would be more odorless and just plain thin black dust but idk I'm seeing colors of green and stuff in the product I blow out. I'm not sure how to tel if it's working?
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NickDlow
Log Hog
Welcome to the UD pack! First, please watch these videos:
I think they'll help with a lot of your questions.
Second, if you got a note on your power supply that your vape tested hot, then you would have either received a separate dimmer switch in a small dark grey package, or an extra long extension cord. Please check through your entire package. Please make sure your extension cord is also plugged in, between the power supply and vape.
Also, herb never goes inside the vape - always inside the stems.
In the spirit of Vincent Van Gogh!!!
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KiefVape
New Member
I'm thinking it's just burning the top and then not truly vaporizing all my grind? I swear the material closest to the screen on my nylon one is still fresh but the grind in front had turned black and the nylon stem gets hot in my mouth I have to stop the hit. I still get visible vapor or smoke I'm starting to think it's just the top weed smoke. Don't get me wrong I know this thing is sweet but I'm guessing I'm not using it correctly or it's just burning my weed, so it's not really vaporizing and it all gets too hot the nylon stem, I only have the gong and two direct draw stems I haven't used still. I've only been using the nylon one and it burns my mouth after a bit, I read that you want very slow 15 second hit? I try that and it gets hot after a while. I am also pushing the stem down and just trying to feel a good hit but idk maybe the grind is too big and needs to be finer. Also could I use the Gong and glass stems without a bong? I have the air core underdog
Sand
Flirting with Combustion
Mine can get black on top, but usually if *overpacking*. The default screen positions worked well for me. Grind = normal 4pc grinder for me. Those stainless tips almost never give me 100% even ABV (better than glass though), but its the most even ABV I've seen a vape one hit a small amount of, and there is little to zero visible vapor left in the material once hit. If the slight char bothers you, definitely try a dimmer, or maybe a VVPS if you really want to tune it. I find just heat soaking less, combined with a water peice, and drawing faster (this is key) gives me a nice medium brown-light brown ABV if I want it. I have some HW to do tonight, but I'll post some ABV pics for you later. I doubt you are combusting, if you want less hot/lung busting hits try the glass stems. If you actually combust: you'll see /feel a massive increase in "vapor" that will be noticeably different and harsh than vapor. I have actually yet to do this with my UD, though I have had it happen with the enano (user error). I requested a hot UD as well, for greater body high.
EDIT: Don't forget to twist the stem/unit during peak vapor production. Use the extension cord for sure with this tech as it is not nice to the copper wire.
There's only one way to know for sure. Take a tiny amount of herb and burn it. Compare the two.
You'll definitely know if it combusts, there will be a 'whoosh' sound, a huge amount of choking smoke (ie not vapor), smoldering in the bowl, etc, etc.
It sounds like yours is just extracting to the max, just below combustion but not reaching it. Try drawing a bit quicker, or a shorter duration, or without the stem being loaded quite to the top. Or blow into the top of the vape for a second or two before putting the stem on and hitting it, it'll blow off some of the heat.
Also definitely try out your other stems like the Direct Draw and the GonG can be used too without a bong or bubbler.
Basically play around with your technique and the other stems and you'll find your groove in no time.
It sounds like yours is just extracting to the max, just below combustion but not reaching it. Try drawing a bit quicker, or a shorter duration, or without the stem being loaded quite to the top. Or blow into the top of the vape for a second or two before putting the stem on and hitting it, it'll blow off some of the heat.
Also definitely try out your other stems like the Direct Draw and the GonG can be used too without a bong or bubbler.
Basically play around with your technique and the other stems and you'll find your groove in no time.
djchexxx
Well-Known Member
This seems like a dumb question but I just got my UD today and also ordered a dimmer separately. So I was wondering how do I connect it? Is it Wall wart -> dimmer -> extension cord?
Also once I have that all connected can I just switch the dimmer to off, then when I want to use the unit can I turn it on? Once I turn it on do I put the dimmer to max to get the normal voltage/vaping temp?
Also once I have that all connected can I just switch the dimmer to off, then when I want to use the unit can I turn it on? Once I turn it on do I put the dimmer to max to get the normal voltage/vaping temp?
CurryLeafTreehugger
Well-Known Member
I use the regular glass stems. I can't see what's going on in the nylon/steel stems. I do tend to overpack and am desperately trying to find the same answer to this question - where to put the screen. Sure, the 'default position' probably actually IS best - but I have no way of telling where that is once I've cleaned the stem for the first time. Plus - I use my screens flat side up (they stay way cleaner way longer that way) - which means I have to push them to the other end anyway, and every time I've done that with a new stem I forgot to measure where it had been at to start with.
I believe this is a separately purchased item - unless you're talking about the extra cord that goes between the wall wart and the UD? That short piece of wire provides additional electrical resistance so that the voltage delivered to your device is lower, which makes it burn less hot.
I'm sure you're thinking of something with a thumbwheel on it that you can roll up and down to vary voltage (actually light dimmers come to mind) but that's not what the "dimmer" is in this case, its just that short piece of wire that reduces voltage by an unknown amount, but just slightly, to get your UD to operate at a lower temp.
If you want variable control, you need a VVPS. I'm getting the one suggested by UD that is sold on Amazon. I did get a cord for it from UD.
Only if you can plug it in at the "somewhere else". It is not portable, there is no external power supple.
Yes and no. There are issues. They've been discussed recently. Try going 5 or 6 pages back, I imagine if I still remember it it must have been fairly recent. Hopefully someone else knows more.
None that I know of.
The side nearest the herb. I hold the vape angled to keep the herb from sliding out of the stem. Tilt my head back just a little and drawdrawdraw steadily but not too fast. I twist the stem as I do this, which apparently IS the thing to do (I was just guessing). I draw until I feel like its getting harsh, remove the vape, keep drawing on the stem to draw down anything that's already been vaped. Drawing fresh cool air through it.
I do this because I fancy it helps cool whatever herb is still in the stem so it doesn't loose its weedy goodness before the next hit. It may actually do that - however I imagine that what this really shows is that I'm still overpacking. (Waits for the response from the peanut gallery, LOL!)
I'm just as confused as you are and I've had mine for several months now, LOL!
Mine looks like that, dark speckled with bits of green. I keep trying to get it to come out more evenly with little success. I suspect I'm still overpacking.
My water-cured ABV didn't turn out the way I thought either - I definitely washed a lot of crud out of it, but it still looks the same or maybe even darker. Still smells like pot, though its a kinder gentler aroma. I've been told repeatedly it should be straw-colored after water-curing, but it definitely is not. It's also not supposed to have that pot smell anymore, but it still does. Not sure what to do with it next.
Yeah. I got that answer back when I first started looking for information also. I can't even find the thread anymore. I'm not sure I ever did - I remember finding the one for my (faulty) Firefly but I don't remember the one for the Underdog. If that's what you're going to tell people - how about a link? Because *I* don't know where that thread is and I don't know how to find it.[/QUOTE]
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Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
You are correct on both counts. Enjoy and welcome!
@CurryLeafTreehugger
Here you go
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/best-of-the-underdog-vaporizer-thread.16639/
KiefVape
New Member
I'm going to try the glass stem right now about 3/4 packed and I flipped my grinder so it grinds more finely. I hear I should twist and slow hit? Or maybe puff on it? It seems like I burn the weed because wen I dump the cashed weed it's ash with little brown and should the hits taste or seems much different then smoke? I really just want to know how to use it so it draws a big cloud of pure vapor, and if I'm right all the weed should be a yellowy brownish color wen I blow it out. I don't want smoke.
djchexxx
Well-Known Member
I think this video will help you out. I think you might be putting in the stem down on top of the Underdog while it is sitting upright. This video shows how to use it properly. You need to hold the stem horizontal, then pick up the underdog and put it to the stem, horizontal as well.
Melting Pot
Sick & Twisted
Hope everyone survived monday.
Needing a little assistance keep grtting 404 not found at the end of finishing my order any ideas.
TIA
Needing a little assistance keep grtting 404 not found at the end of finishing my order any ideas.
TIA
rogrog
Well-Known Member
I asked this question myself when I got my UD, so lemme pay it forward. I do wallwart > dimmer > UD. I havent found a need for the extension cord. I always vape at the highest temperature, so the dimmer is a bit of an on/off switch for me. I'm considering a Wemo switch that I can control with my phone and maybe even remotely turn it on when I'm commuting home.
One tip I can share...if you ordered the hitlights dimmer, it does not have any markings. If you want markings, the easiest way is to heat up a sewing needle on the stove or under a lighter and simply melt dot(s) on the dimmer. Of course, dont poke too deep -- surface level only.
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djchexxx
Well-Known Member
D020-D or the matrix bubbler from steven on dhgate. I personally have the matrix bubbler and the diffusion is insane.
Thanks, i'll keep that in mind. They included the extension cord because mine runs hot but since I have the dimmer I can probably omit the extension cord. Since mine runs hot I should just try to find the right spot for me with the dimmer and mark it. Is that why you are suggesting I should mark it?
Hey Melting Pot- I'm going to message you directly. I'm not seeing any error pages when I do a test run.
We include an extension cord with every vape order. We include a longer cord with hot running vapes. We recommend that you use the extension cord no matter what, so that it can take the brunt of the movement fatigue and save your expensive power supply's cord from more wear and tear than needed.
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Can you post a picture of a packed stem? The glass shouldn't be getting too hot. Just curious to see exactly how your packing and using the stem.